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Candie's Foundation and Bristol Palin silly goosery

HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration ThreadCentrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
edited April 2011 in Debate and/or Discourse
So, something caught my eye that I think more people need to be made aware of. Check it. (Article in full below)
In 2009, Sarah Palin’s daughter Bristol joined a teen pregnancy prevention nonprofit called the Candie’s Foundation. Today, the Associated Press reported that the Candie’s Foundation released its 2009 tax information, revealing that Bristol was paid a salary of $262,500.

But a closer examination of the tax form by ThinkProgress shows that the group disbursed only $35,000 in grants to actual teen pregnancy health and counseling clinics: $25,000 to the Mt. Sinai Adolescent Health Center and $10,000 to the National Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy. View a screenshot of Bristol’s exorbitant salary below:

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View a screenshot of the Candie’s Foundation charitable disbursements below:

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Thus, the nonprofit paid Bristol over seven times what it paid to teen pregnancy prevention groups. In addition, the Candie’s Foundation spent $165,000 on advertising, including this spot with Bristol and “The Situation” of MTV’s Jersey Shore:

(cut because nobody wants to see The Situation)

Notably, Bristol’s Candie’s Foundation group is run by Neil Cole, an executive at the teenage clothing company Iconix Brand Group. Many critics have pointed out that the Candie’s Foundation appears to be geared towards improving the public image of Cole’s company rather than reducing teen pregnancy.
A friend put it best by saying the Palin family is a circus act. But beyond the Palin family's ridiculous greed for money since they got popular in America, another disgusting facet of this situation is money not going to the people it claims need it.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    It'd be pretty amusing to see their non-profit status revoked and everyone who donated get audited.

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  • RamiRami Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Are there not laws about Charity spending in the US? I know in the UK the amount of their (donated) money they are allowed to spend on advertising is strictly enforced, and the amount they have spent there would surely have been illegal. Common sense dictates that when a charity spends more money on advertising itself than it actually spends on those it's supposed to help, you have a pretty big problem.

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  • Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Alexandria, VARegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I wonder if those clinics are real, or the anti-abortion shams.

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  • Fallout2manFallout2man Vault Dweller Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I wonder if those clinics are real, or the anti-abortion shams.

    It's Bristol Palin, is there really any question?

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  • Skoal CatSkoal Cat Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Soooo, we were able to get the Etsy bullshit picked up by major news networks... what's the next step with this? The IRS?

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Rami wrote: »
    Are there not laws about Charity spending in the US? I know in the UK the amount of their (donated) money they are allowed to spend on advertising is strictly enforced, and the amount they have spent there would surely have been illegal. Common sense dictates that when a charity spends more money on advertising itself than it actually spends on those it's supposed to help, you have a pretty big problem.

    It's a field of our legal system I know nothing about. I know there's SOME sort of qualifier in existence to make the non-profit claim. It's just a matter of how much it can be bent. This isn't a bending though. It's a pretty heinous case of breaking it. With any luck it's a matter of "Spend more on charity goals than compensating people's time working for the charity." I mean my god. I can't wait for the Palin spinnery.

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I love the irony in Bristol Palin getting rich spreading a message of abstinence because she got knocked up.

    "That's right everyone, don't have sex before marriage because you might end up having to go on a highly paid lecture tour."

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  • EgoEgo Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    http://www.charitynavigator.org seems like a good site for finding out what charities spend on their programs as opposed to their administrative expenses. I'm pleased to see that, contrary to what I'd heard, red cross actually does pretty good.

    Looks like family connections still get you a pretty good salary, these days. Nice to see that part of the economy is doing well.

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  • CaptainPeacockCaptainPeacock Board Game Hoarder Top o' the LakeRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    The Picard Facepalm doesn't begin to cover this, but it's a good start.

    Man, fuck this noise seriously. Fuck that foundation. And fuck her.

    Oh wait, that's already covered.

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  • HamHamJHamHamJ Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Rami wrote: »
    Are there not laws about Charity spending in the US?

    FREE MARKET!

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    So, CNN had no problem reporting that Bristol got paid oodles of money from the foundation. But they failed to mention that the foundation did practically nothing to further its goal.

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  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 Really, stupid? Brockton__BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2011
    The entire Palin family has to be a practical joke on America, right?


    ...right?

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  • AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I never could get the math to work on how Bristol Palin made an appropriate spokesperson for combating teen pregnancy.



    However, this case reminds me quite a lot of The Susan G. Komen Foundation's recent troubles, wherein they spent millions of dollars in court trying to claim ownership to the phrase, ". . . for the cure." Some of those court costs went towards filing actual suits against other cancer charities.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/07/komen-foundation-charities-cure_n_793176.html

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I never could get the math to work on how Bristol Palin made an appropriate spokesperson for combating teen pregnancy.



    However, this case reminds me quite a lot of The Susan G. Komen Foundation's recent troubles, wherein they spent millions of dollars in court trying to claim ownership to the phrase, ". . . for the cure." Some of those court costs went towards filing actual suits against other cancer charities.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/07/komen-foundation-charities-cure_n_793176.html

    Suing other charities / foundations for a phrase really pissed me off when I first heard about it. I guess recognition for charity work is more important than other organizations existing to do good.

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  • Modern ManModern Man Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I'm pretty impressed with the Palin family's ability to leverage their newfound celebrity status into big bucks. And I'm also convinced she's not going to run in 2012, but instead keep making big money for a few more years.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Henroid wrote: »
    I never could get the math to work on how Bristol Palin made an appropriate spokesperson for combating teen pregnancy.



    However, this case reminds me quite a lot of The Susan G. Komen Foundation's recent troubles, wherein they spent millions of dollars in court trying to claim ownership to the phrase, ". . . for the cure." Some of those court costs went towards filing actual suits against other cancer charities.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/07/komen-foundation-charities-cure_n_793176.html

    Suing other charities / foundations for a phrase really pissed me off when I first heard about it. I guess recognition for charity work is more important than other organizations existing to do good.

    You have heard of "defend or die", right?

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  • tallgeezetallgeeze Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    The entire Palin family has to be a practical joke on America, right?


    ...right?

    Well, Allen Funt probably asked God to help him film the ultimate Candid Camera episode. Unfortunately, it will never stop.

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  • DivideByZeroDivideByZero Social Justice Blackguard Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    They're just operating with a very narrow scope.

    Every year Bristol Palin doesn't get pregnant again, they put $262,500.00 in a jar...

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  • JihadJesusJihadJesus Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    The justification for this while be fun; I can hear it now. "The action the foundation took to prevent teen pregancy was to pay a high profile spokeperson currently within the national spotlight in order to attract attention to the issue! Paying Bristol Palin $250k is more effective at fighting teen pregnancy than donating the money directly to abstinence only anti-pregnancy efforts! I mean that should be obvious - Bristol got all that shit, and look how knocked up she got!"

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Most effective form of birth control ever, pay a woman 250k to not get pregnant.

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    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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  • The Muffin ManThe Muffin Man Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I love the irony in Bristol Palin getting rich spreading a message of abstinence because she got knocked up.

    "That's right everyone, don't have sex before marriage because you might end up having to go on a highly paid lecture tour."

    This is what pisses me off the most.
    It's the exact opposite of what this foundation claims to be about. "Don't have pre-marital sex because you'll end up ruining your life!" (which isn't the whole truth, but this isn't about what I THINK it should be)

    What ends up happening?
    Bristol Palin has pre-marital sex.
    Bristol Palin has a kid.
    Bristol Palin GOES ON TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND MAKE FAT STACKS OF CASH.

    That's the exact opposite.
    So not only is she preaching about the consequences of her actions that she never had to fucking face (do we even see her with her kid? Or does she just hire someone to take care of him?), she's preaching about consequences she never realistically even had to worry about (She was out of school already, she was old enough to work and live on her own, mother didn't kick her out/disown her, people treat her like a goddamn hero and not a pariah).

    It's disgusting. She's almost worse than her mother.

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    What are we discussing in here exactly?

    That the Palins are using the spotlight to cash in? Cause you know, shocker

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  • an_altan_alt Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    As Ego pointed out, this is a reminder of why you should treat charity like an investment or a large purchase. What are you going to get for your money? If it's not a good value, put your charity dollars elsewhere.

    This one sounds more like a PR firm than a bloated charity, though.

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Of course, we're talking about a charity that spends its money to promote abstinence, so it's not like it's actually a worthwhile charity in the first place.

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  • AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Of course, we're talking about a charity that spends its money to promote abstinence, so it's not like it's actually a worthwhile charity in the first place.

    It is rather ridiculous to assume that the world needs more awareness of how pregnancy works.


    Of course, abstinence advocacy groups are fighting for admirable goals the stupidest way possible.

    "You kids shouldn't have sex, period."

    "Why not?"

    "Because you could get pregnant and ruin your life! Or catch some horrible disease!"

    "That's what condoms, birth control, oral sex, anal sex, handjobs, and/or Planned Parenthood are for."

    "WHARBLGARBBL!!!1!"

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    What are we discussing in here exactly?

    That the Palins are using the spotlight to cash in? Cause you know, shocker

    Well, this time it might be tax-fraud illegal or something.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Modern Man wrote: »
    I'm pretty impressed with the Palin family's ability to leverage their newfound celebrity status into big bucks. And I'm also convinced she's not going to run in 2012, but instead keep making big money for a few more years.

    Usually I disagree with Modern Man to some degree or another, but on this we agree 100%. People who support the Palin family as being American heroes are blind as shit for not realizing the family is reaping the benefits of celebrity to make money.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    KalTorak wrote: »
    What are we discussing in here exactly?

    That the Palins are using the spotlight to cash in? Cause you know, shocker

    Well, this time it might be tax-fraud illegal or something.

    To be fair, it's no the first time the family has faced ethics issues. Technically this is same shit, different day.

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  • BubbaTBubbaT Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Henroid wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    What are we discussing in here exactly?

    That the Palins are using the spotlight to cash in? Cause you know, shocker

    Well, this time it might be tax-fraud illegal or something.

    To be fair, it's no the first time the family has faced ethics issues. Technically this is same shit, different day.

    How is this an ethics issue for Bristol?

    They hired her to be in an ad campaign because she's famous. She did so, and got paid.

    The rest of the problem is whether the charity itself was in compliance with whatever tax codes govern charitable organizations.

    It's not every celebrity spokesperson's job to make sure the company they do a commercial for does exactly what the company says they'll do in their mission statement.

    What, is this an ethics issue for "The Situation" too?

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    If she's hired to work for a non-profit, why is she, a part of the non-profit, making a profit?

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  • BubbaTBubbaT Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Henroid wrote: »
    If she's hired to work for a non-profit, why is she, a part of the non-profit, making a profit?

    Not everyone who works at non-profits is an unpaid volunteer.

    CEO of United Way - a non-profit charity - reportedly has an annual salary of over $1 million. Several college football and basketball coaches have annual salaries in the multi-millions, even as they are part of non-profit educational institutions.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Henroid wrote: »
    If she's hired to work for a non-profit, why is she, a part of the non-profit, making a profit?

    The issue is not that she's being paid. The issue is that she's being paid more than the charity is actually using for their cause.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    BubbaT wrote: »
    Henroid wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    What are we discussing in here exactly?

    That the Palins are using the spotlight to cash in? Cause you know, shocker

    Well, this time it might be tax-fraud illegal or something.

    To be fair, it's no the first time the family has faced ethics issues. Technically this is same shit, different day.

    How is this an ethics issue for Bristol?

    They hired her to be in an ad campaign because she's famous. She did so, and got paid.

    The rest of the problem is whether the charity itself was in compliance with whatever tax codes govern charitable organizations.

    It's not every celebrity spokesperson's job to make sure the company they do a commercial for does exactly what the company says they'll do in their mission statement.

    What, is this an ethics issue for "The Situation" too?

    Yes. A type of Situational ethics, you could say.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Henroid wrote: »
    If she's hired to work for a non-profit, why is she, a part of the non-profit, making a profit?

    The issue is not that she's being paid. The issue is that she's being paid more than the charity is actually using for their cause.

    Well, I had the misunderstanding that she was involved to the point where she wasn't seeking to be paid period. I mean if it was far less than this her being paid wouldn't bother me much at all. Though, even if it was like $60 it'd still be more than what the charity actually spent to fulfill its mission statement. Which is still scummy and evil.

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  • Skoal CatSkoal Cat Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Kind of related in terms of "what the fuck people, this is how you treat pregnancy?" MTV is paying the kids from Teen Mom a substantial enough amount of money for one of them to rush into a marriage she didn't want to have. I recently read an article where this girl was told that she wouldn't be on Teen Mom 2 (and get paid) if she didn't get married to her baby daddy.

    :vomit:

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  • Witch_Hunter_84Witch_Hunter_84 Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Of course, we're talking about a charity that spends its money to promote abstinence, so it's not like it's actually a worthwhile charity in the first place.

    It is rather ridiculous to assume that the world needs more awareness of how pregnancy works.


    Of course, abstinence advocacy groups are fighting for admirable goals the stupidest way possible.

    "You kids shouldn't have sex, period."

    "Why not?"

    "Because you could get pregnant and ruin your life! Or catch some horrible disease!"

    "That's what condoms, birth control, oral sex, anal sex, handjobs, and/or Planned Parenthood are for."

    "WHARBLGARBBL!!!1!"

    The thing is, the abstinence groups that Bristol Palin associates herself with probably replace that limed statement with "Because Osama Bin Laden shares in the orgasm of every unwed teen!!!!" or "It makes Jesus cry!"

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  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Henroid wrote: »
    Well, I had the misunderstanding that she was involved to the point where she wasn't seeking to be paid period.

    So, you believed a member of the Palin family did something for purely altruistic reasons? They're a family of grifters, Henri. Throw "The Riches" on your netflix queue for a handy guide to the Palins

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I have a bad habit of having faith in humanity. Like, "Nobody would form a charity foundation just to make money off it. That's so silly and evil and nobody would get away with it, who would be dumb enough to try?" Woops.

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  • BubbaTBubbaT Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Deebaser wrote: »
    Henroid wrote: »
    Well, I had the misunderstanding that she was involved to the point where she wasn't seeking to be paid period.

    So, you believed a member of the Palin family did something for purely altruistic reasons? They're a family of grifters, Henri. Throw "The Riches" on your netflix queue for a handy guide to the Palins

    Not that I disagree on the Palins being opportunistic profiteers.

    But the idea that everyone who works for a charity or other non-profit should be some kind of altruistic unpaid volunteer is pure goosery.

    Is the CEO of the American Red Cross a non-altruistic money-grubber? Because that position pays well into the 6 figures.

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  • Void SlayerVoid Slayer Very Suspicious Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    BubbaT wrote: »
    Deebaser wrote: »
    Henroid wrote: »
    Well, I had the misunderstanding that she was involved to the point where she wasn't seeking to be paid period.

    So, you believed a member of the Palin family did something for purely altruistic reasons? They're a family of grifters, Henri. Throw "The Riches" on your netflix queue for a handy guide to the Palins

    Not that I disagree on the Palins being opportunistic profiteers.

    But the idea that everyone who works for a charity or other non-profit should be some kind of altruistic unpaid volunteer is pure goosery.

    Is the CEO of the American Red Cross a non-altruistic money-grubber? Because that position pays well into the 6 figures.

    Is he paid $200,000 dollars from a charity that takes in $250,000 and uses about $50,000 for it's actual mission? The red cross takes in millions of dollars each year and it makes sense to pay as though it is a multi-million dollar corporation. Even then I am sure he makes a great deal less then he would in the private for-profit sector. This kind of underhanded charitable garbage is a sure fire way to funnel money around to people though.

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