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    emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    emnmnme wrote: »
    LadyM wrote: »
    I'm finding Jem & the Holograms way more interesting than I would've expected. I never watched it in the 80s, so it's a completely new experience. That's truly, truly, truly outrageous.

    You might say that show was a hidden Jem?

    damn sig... Keeps reminding me of Sonic Underground.

    What the heck WAS that anyway? Fuck, i think it was made in France, too... That show sure was a thing! Let's talk about Sonic Underground. Which episode was your favorite? Mine was ALL OF THEM.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l72OGSTZDyY

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    LadyM wrote: »
    I'm finding Jem & the Holograms way more interesting than I would've expected. I never watched it in the 80s, so it's a completely new experience. That's truly, truly, truly outrageous.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KA7zhOnqJY

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    wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    emnmnme wrote: »
    emnmnme wrote: »
    LadyM wrote: »
    I'm finding Jem & the Holograms way more interesting than I would've expected. I never watched it in the 80s, so it's a completely new experience. That's truly, truly, truly outrageous.

    You might say that show was a hidden Jem?

    damn sig... Keeps reminding me of Sonic Underground.

    What the heck WAS that anyway? Fuck, i think it was made in France, too... That show sure was a thing! Let's talk about Sonic Underground. Which episode was your favorite? Mine was ALL OF THEM.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l72OGSTZDyY

    Wasn't that CGI Donkey Kong cartoon also French made?

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    21stCentury21stCentury Call me Pixel, or Pix for short! [They/Them]Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    wirehead26 wrote: »

    Wasn't that CGI Donkey Kong cartoon also French made?

    I believe so, yes.

    I think it was a France-Canada Co-production.

    Another cool french cartoon was a Japan-Canada-US coproduction that got cancelled before its time and which cannot be sold on DVD or continued because of Fox: Cybersix.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z22seoMxgpI

    That shit was pretty cool. It was about some genetically engineered vampire chick who fought her nazi scientist creator and his bio-weapons.

    of course, in the cartoon, she didn't actually suck blood because it was for kids...

    A bunch of episodes have been uploaded to Youtube, it's a pretty nice series, or at least, i remember liking it a lot when i was younger.

    Anyone remember it? I aired on Fox back when they had that Fox Kids programming block on saturdays and week day afternoons.

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    ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I remember it showing up in a list of top 10 90's cartoons. The reviewer was surprised that the main girl pretended to be a male teacher by day. And there was a serious storyline about another male teacher that was the main supporting character slowly falling in love with him/her.

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    KlykaKlyka DO you have any SPARE BATTERIES?Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    The "female pretends to be male" was the Japanese side and the guy falling in love with "him/her" was the French.

    Edit: French CANADIAN

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    21stCentury21stCentury Call me Pixel, or Pix for short! [They/Them]Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Klyka wrote: »
    The "female pretends to be male" was the Japanese side and the guy falling in love with "him/her" was the French.

    Edit: French CANADIAN

    Actually, wrong on both counts.

    it's based on an Argentinian comic... So they're both from the Argentinian side of it since those were in the original comic, I believe. The crossdressing part was definitely in it. It was also more overt about the bad guy being a nazi and Cybersix being a kind of genetically engineered vampire/cyborg.

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    OptyOpty Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    In the back of my mind I remember a lot of cartoons like Cybersix and whatnot from seeing bits and pieces of them throughout childhood but never actually sitting down and watching the shows.

    Also for some reason the CGI Clone Wars movie was on my Netflix queue (I honestly don't remember putting it on there) and got here yesterday so I watched it and man it was pretty bad. Is the show on Cartoon Network just as bad or what?

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    NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2011
    I think the show is slightly better than the movie, but I never saw too much of either

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    yalborapyalborap Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    The show is quite good, the movie is shit.

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    Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9ugYplij-I

    is the greatest opening to any show ever.

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    21stCentury21stCentury Call me Pixel, or Pix for short! [They/Them]Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Well, if we're posting opening sequences of cool cartoons... Here's those opening sequences I really liked.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZGN9fZvQhc
    Spiderman. Classic.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAkL2-vh2Sk
    X-Men, another classic.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlobFExM-UM
    Batman Beyond. That was a pretty grimdark show for a cartoon...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-CCeiMIQhc
    Men in Black was, i think, the coolest cartoon adaptation of a movie. Bar none.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b2CtgkwJQA
    Godzilla was a close second.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPiZptATdGc
    Honourable Mention to The Real Ghostbusters for fighting Cthulhu.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF9BMc3rVA0
    This was a bit more obscure. Spoiler: Everything is aliens. You think Ghosts are real? They're aliens. Werewolves? They're aliens. Aliens? They're really aliens.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xk-XXBvwbs
    This is outright obscure, but I like the opening sequence.

    Fuck, while we're at it, let's go full euro. This show, i liked as a kid. i don't think they ever explained anything because it got cancelled after one season... It was mysterious.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGsFwd2GH3E
    The guy in a golden mask prancing around is Belphegor, some kind of thief. Some of the crap he did was outright magic. Some was sciency-shit. This did the Da Vinci Code really early with something about a manuscript that would catch fire if held to the light. In the end, Belphegor stole it and read it with a black light in his weird-ass secret hideout. I don't think we ever "know" what he finds there. I think he's magic, but that was never explained.

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    NocrenNocren Lt Futz, Back in Action North CarolinaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9ugYplij-I

    is the greatest opening to any show ever.

    I loved afternoon Conan with his Viking rival, African plainsman bloodbrother, the shaman friend who's siblings were turned into wolves, his circus acrobat/ninja friend and his magical phoenix shield. No it wasn't the full cast an episode, just maybe 1 or 2, at most 3. But it was really cool with a solid background, though slightly altered from the source material. In the cartoon his parents/village were turned to stone by that serpent king-guy and he travels the world to both A) stop/kill the guy and 2) find a cure. Heck there was even an episode where he DID save his parents/village via magic artifact. However then badguy got a hold of the artifact and wished for infinite star metal (star metal being the meteorite that Conan forged his sword from and a the only thing that could really hurt the badguy) to make some big war machine.

    Conan didn't care, he had his family back. However badguy decides to attack Conan's village again, this time though Conan can't stop the machine, however if he destroys the artifact, all wishes will be nullified. Of course he doesn't want to do this, but in the end he does.

    satAM was a different story arc with Conan and two kids.

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    Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    They are different series. This one was awesome, so awesome that it went from syndicated saturday morning season 1 to a full on series (with a real ending to boot!) of 52 weekly episodes for season two.

    It's a really well done early ninties animated fantasy show for kids. They released the entire show on DVD in Austrailia and are releasing season one in the US sometime this year.

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    ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gwrWWHHclA

    I don't think many other people watched this show. They made toys, but I never saw them, can't find them anywhere now either.

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    IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    That is an incredibly confusing intro.

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    lionheart_mlionheart_m Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Goddamn I forgot about that Conan cartoon. Really one for the ages.

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    ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I believe the show as meant as a relaunch of the Universal monsters, or at least a way to keep them in use. I think they were also rebooted right after that show, so it's somewhat forgotten.

    What made it awesome is that Frankenstein was on the team, a kid turned into the Wolfman, the girl was psychic (I think) and could control Frankie, and all the humans had badass powered armor. Complete with a great transformation sequence.

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    GodfatherGodfather Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
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    PikaPuffPikaPuff Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    wow.

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    ocpmovieocpmovie Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJry5ReXZVM

    If you're a fan of The Thief and the Cobbler, right now there's an incredible sale of original art going on at Ebay [user xdis-knee].

    http://stores.ebay.com/BOUTIQUE-UNLIMITED-California/_i.html?rt=nc&_nkw=thief+and+the+cobbler&_sc=1&_sid=11455001&_sticky=1&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14&_sop=1&_sc=1

    I can't afford to bid on these myself, but I'm hoping that anyone who wins any of these great cels will be kind enough to scan them in high quality for my Richard Williams/Thief and the Cobbler archive.

    Backstory for the uninitiated --

    Richard Williams is the triple Academy Award winning animator known for directing the animation of Who Framed Roger Rabbit, as well as the Oscar-winning A Christmas Carol and hundreds of incredible animated ads. More recently he wrote The Animator's Survival Kit, considered one of the great books on animation, possibly the greatest.

    The Thief and the Cobbler was intended to be his masterpiece, on which he spent over 25 years, but due to studio politics it was never quite completed as planned.

    In 2006 I edited together an unofficial restoration of the film from available elements, and later updated this with rare 35mm film sequences.

    The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Cut has proven a popular and acclaimed way to see this classic film in something approaching the way it was meant to be.

    Since then I've collected and restored all the work of Richard Williams that I could find, and placed it on Youtube as well as an ever-growing Scrapbook of data.

    http://youtube.com/thethiefarchive

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    cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Godfather wrote: »

    Brave and the Bold does that to you. It lulls you into thinking it's pretty harmless fare, then occasionally it hits you with something hard. You should see the one where Bats goes after the murderer of his parents.

    Also: yay, someone posted the Big Guy and Rusty opening! Not only is the song awesome, it's got one of the most brutal moments in "kids" animation opening sequences.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSmXn7BWdcM

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    21stCentury21stCentury Call me Pixel, or Pix for short! [They/Them]Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Godfather wrote: »

    Brave and the Bold does that to you. It lulls you into thinking it's pretty harmless fare, then occasionally it hits you with something hard. You should see the one where Bats goes after the murderer of his parents.

    Also: yay, someone posted the Big Guy and Rusty opening! Not only is the song awesome, it's got one of the most brutal moments in "kids" animation opening sequences.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSmXn7BWdcM

    Big Guy and Rusty is on Hulu, I believe.
    i loved that show... I loved pretty much all the shows back when Fox had an Afterschool cartoon block. My childhood ended when that did. :(

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    CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I recently finished Avatar- The Last Airbender. Wonderful show. I bought the whole series. It swings from off the wall comedy to touching serious issues such as sexism, racism, child abuse and the impacts of war on children. The art and animation is amazing from start to finish. I always wondered what would happen if an Eastern art studio teamed up with Western writers.

    Aang is an amazing protagonist. Just a 12 year old boy who acts like one, with a very serious quest thrust upon him. When he comes out of the ice he pretty much falls in love with Katara at first sight, and like a kid, all he wants to do is play around or show off to her. Its not mutual, because he has a lot of growing up to do in her eyes. He wins her over in the end though. I have no respect for protagonists who don't like girls! (*cough* Ike *cough*)

    Zuko's spends a lot of time trying to please his father, and, like real life, it takes him a very long time to figure out how abused he was. Katara is amazing too. She starts off as "the mature one" as expected, with a gift of waterbending she's doesn't really understand, to the point Sokka thinks its a worthless trick. She wnds up becoming godly powerful, but cracks in her maturity start to show. In fact, pretty much every character was amazing. I could go on and on.

    And a second series is in the works! OMG

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    RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    With JK Simmons in it, no less!
    Good enough for Airbending. Not Avatar Airbending!

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    cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Actually, the art (and martial arts, for that matter) was 100% done by westerners unless I've missed something big. Yeah, they're THAT talented.

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    CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Actually, the art (and martial arts, for that matter) was 100% done by westerners unless I've missed something big. Yeah, they're THAT talented.

    Well in the special features they gave a Korean studio a lot of love. Now I don't know who did what.

    Also...
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    LadyMLadyM Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Zuko was one of the most rounded villains (turned hero) I've ever seen.

    You know who else was awesome? Those roving singers. SECRET TUNNEEEEL!

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    FCDFCD Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    They are different series. This one was awesome, so awesome that it went from syndicated saturday morning season 1 to a full on series (with a real ending to boot!) of 52 weekly episodes for season two.

    It's a really well done early ninties animated fantasy show for kids. They released the entire show on DVD in Austrailia and are releasing season one in the US sometime this year.

    Best news I've heard yet. Loved Conan the Adventurer, back in the day.

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    cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Cantido wrote: »
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Actually, the art (and martial arts, for that matter) was 100% done by westerners unless I've missed something big. Yeah, they're THAT talented.

    Well in the special features they gave a Korean studio a lot of love. Now I don't know who did what.

    Like most western animation, the actual heavy lifting on the animation itself is done in Korea (or elsewhere). But everything else, like the writing, direction, storyboarding, production design, etc. etc. is done in the U.S.

    Though I'll agree, it's pretty much the only U.S. production that credibly looks like anime. Except maybe Teen Titans, but that one's debatable.

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    CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Cantido wrote: »
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Actually, the art (and martial arts, for that matter) was 100% done by westerners unless I've missed something big. Yeah, they're THAT talented.

    Well in the special features they gave a Korean studio a lot of love. Now I don't know who did what.

    Like most western animation, the actual heavy lifting on the animation itself is done in Korea (or elsewhere). But everything else, like the writing, direction, storyboarding, production design, etc. etc. is done in the U.S.

    Though I'll agree, it's pretty much the only U.S. production that credibly looks like anime. Except maybe Teen Titans, but that one's debatable.

    The Boondocks!

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    21stCentury21stCentury Call me Pixel, or Pix for short! [They/Them]Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Cantido wrote: »
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Like most western animation, the actual heavy lifting on the animation itself is done in Korea (or elsewhere). But everything else, like the writing, direction, storyboarding, production design, etc. etc. is done in the U.S.
    Though I'll agree, it's pretty much the only U.S. production that credibly looks like anime. Except maybe Teen Titans, but that one's debatable.

    The Boondocks!

    The Boondocks IS Anime. I'm pretty sure it's all made by a pretty big Anime studio. Madhouse or something like that.

    Speaking of DVDs... i'm very sad that MIB: The Series is not on DVD and that there are no plans for it on DVD. I loved that show. :( All the best shows from when I was a kid have apparently no plans to get on DVD it seems.

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    Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    So I'm not certain if I like the Looney Tunes Show or not. The episodes with Lola and Yosemite Sam were hysterical, but the others I've seen range from so-so to "I don't even want to finish watching this".

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    DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I'm pretty ticked that great shows like Big Guy never got an ending or a decent finally.

    I forget how MIB ended. The show was shifted around in the schedule so much that I had no idea when it was on. Last thing I remember was that green alien agent.

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    ThroThro pgroome@penny-arcade.com Registered User regular
    edited June 2011

    The Boondocks IS Anime. I'm pretty sure it's all made by a pretty big Anime studio. Madhouse or something like that.

    Moi Animation, the same Koreans Madhouse uses anyway.

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    cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Hexmage-PA wrote: »
    So I'm not certain if I like the Looney Tunes Show or not. The episodes with Lola and Yosemite Sam were hysterical, but the others I've seen range from so-so to "I don't even want to finish watching this".

    Yeah, the quality's all over the place. I thought Elmer's Grilled Cheese song was a work of minor genius, but I couldn't wait for Sam's song to be over.

    And what was up with the Road Runner sequences looking shoddy? Didn't we see some clips that had them looking much better?

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    PikaPuffPikaPuff Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    the show's good enough to me. a worthy continuan of the franchise

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    see317see317 Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    DanHibiki wrote: »
    I'm pretty ticked that great shows like Big Guy never got an ending or a decent finally.

    I forget how MIB ended. The show was shifted around in the schedule so much that I had no idea when it was on. Last thing I remember was that green alien agent.

    IIRC, MIB ended with agent Alpha coming back to Earth with some alien allies and blowing the MIB headquarters straight to hell while taking over the planet. MIB's existence was exposed and eventually J and K flew up to take Alpha down and then prevent a planet killing super missile from doing it's thing. Zed and the other named MIB agents go on national TV to get medals from the president for saving the planet. L points out that literally everyone on the planet will be watching the broadcast... Sunglasses, neuralizer, reset button, credits.

    It was a pretty fantastic way to end the show if I'm remembering it correctly, though it might just be a thick coat of nostalgia talking.

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    GodfatherGodfather Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Actually, the art (and martial arts, for that matter) was 100% done by westerners unless I've missed something big. Yeah, they're THAT talented.

    Actually you're way off. Like another poster said, all the heavy lifting was done in Korea.

    We designed the characters and sets sure, but the guys responsible for the buttery-smooth animation was overseas yet again.

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    AJRAJR Some guy who wrestles NorwichRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Buttery-smooth?

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