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Yeah, but have you considered how bullshit Pantheon is, like, in general?
You can't have him do high damage because he has a stun/gap closer, a ranged harass, a global teleport/damage ability...like...pantheon's kit is bullshit.
noc
turne
Sorry, nocturne's ultimate isn't global.
Oh it may as well be :P
It's like people don't remember when Pantheon was good whatsoever.
If you were to take Pantheon before he was nerfed into the ground, he'd shit on nocturne. And that's why Pantehon can't be good right now. The developers have stated that they're waiting to buff champions with global ultimates(pantheon, tf, shen) after they can get a UI improvement which allows them reduce to range on their ultimates, and show them the range of the ultimates on the minimap.
And no, Nocturne's ultimate may as well not be global. Nocturne cannot sit in his base and teleport instantly to the enemy base. There's a pretty notable difference. Yeah, nocturne's good, but that clearly wasn't the discussion.
Nocturne's a powerful champion...but his kit doesn't get rid of how bullshit Pantheon's kit is. nocturne's hard cc and gap closer aren't the exact same skill. Pantheon's is. Nocturne's ultimate is not global, pantheon's is a global AoE damage teleport. Nocturne needs sight on an enemy to pull his ultimate off, Pantheon just clicks somewhere.
Back when Pantheon was powerful, playing in a game against him was fucking awful. Back when he was pretty much the best mid, the best ad character, etc etc.
Nocturne's kit is super powerful and sucks to play against, but if you were to put Pantheon up to Nocturne's level, it wouldn't really compare.
Yeah, but have you considered how bullshit Pantheon is, like, in general?
You can't have him do high damage because he has a stun/gap closer, a ranged harass, a global teleport/damage ability...like...pantheon's kit is bullshit.
noc
turne
Sorry, nocturne's ultimate isn't global.
Oh it may as well be :P
It's like people don't remember when Pantheon was good whatsoever.
If you were to take Pantheon before he was nerfed into the ground, he'd shit on nocturne. And that's why Pantehon can't be good right now. The developers have stated that they're waiting to buff champions with global ultimates(pantheon, tf, shen) after they can get a UI improvement which allows them reduce to range on their ultimates, and show them the range of the ultimates on the minimap.
And no, Nocturne's ultimate may as well not be global. Nocturne cannot sit in his base and teleport instantly to the enemy base. There's a pretty notable difference. Yeah, nocturne's good, but that clearly wasn't the discussion.
Nocturne's a powerful champion...but his kit doesn't get rid of how bullshit Pantheon's kit is. nocturne's hard cc and gap closer aren't the exact same skill. Pantheon's is. Nocturne's ultimate is not global, pantheon's is a global AoE damage teleport. Nocturne needs sight on an enemy to pull his ultimate off, Pantheon just clicks somewhere.
Back when Pantheon was powerful, playing in a game against him was fucking awful. Back when he was pretty much the best mid, the best ad character, etc etc.
Nocturne's kit is super powerful and sucks to play against, but if you were to put Pantheon up to Nocturne's level, it wouldn't really compare.
Well said Tracer. Literate, concise, and contained not even a hint of "NO U." Seriously. Well stated. Thread needs more posts like these.
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TBH Pantheon is still a brutal dick stabber. People are just pretty bad at him which is bizarre
I've played him 5 times since the rape patch and every game has been a dick stabbing festival
I remember not being able to get out of his circle as MF with strut up, maybe I was just slow or is it just not possible to get out of the circle before he lands.
But then they buffed heartseeker, and he stopped being perfectly fine. It became super easy to get fed as Pantheon, and his mediocre late game melted away. There is a reason they renerfed him.
TBH he has an innate armour and attack speed boost along with an aoe that can mass hit creep camps, I'd imagine he'd be one of the impossible to screw up junglers
If pantheon's ultimate was just a shorter range jump
like he channels for a second or so and then leaps lux laser range or something
and the jump isn't straight up off the map- he jumps in a really cool arc
it'd be so much cooler.
Completely agreed. Wish his ult was jarvan's ult, basically.
I can't decide between Gragas and Karma for my next unlock. I'm leaning towards Karama though because I don't love any of the other supports and I enjoyed playing her a couple times when she was free. Also I've seen dudes wreck house while supporting with her.
I can't decide between Gragas and Karma for my next unlock. I'm leaning towards Karama though because I don't love any of the other supports and I enjoyed playing her a couple times when she was free. Also I've seen dudes wreck house while supporting with her.
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Last night I got into a losing streak because my friend and I kept winding up on teams with assholes and morons. Like when they made me, as poppy, mid lane because we had no range and then oh hey for some reason this Krasus keeps killing me, and then they all call me names.
Or when theres 3v2 in our favor and I run in and the other 2 run away. Fuck you guys
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It's like people don't remember when Pantheon was good whatsoever.
If you were to take Pantheon before he was nerfed into the ground, he'd shit on nocturne. And that's why Pantehon can't be good right now. The developers have stated that they're waiting to buff champions with global ultimates(pantheon, tf, shen) after they can get a UI improvement which allows them reduce to range on their ultimates, and show them the range of the ultimates on the minimap.
And no, Nocturne's ultimate may as well not be global. Nocturne cannot sit in his base and teleport instantly to the enemy base. There's a pretty notable difference. Yeah, nocturne's good, but that clearly wasn't the discussion.
Nocturne's a powerful champion...but his kit doesn't get rid of how bullshit Pantheon's kit is. nocturne's hard cc and gap closer aren't the exact same skill. Pantheon's is. Nocturne's ultimate is not global, pantheon's is a global AoE damage teleport. Nocturne needs sight on an enemy to pull his ultimate off, Pantheon just clicks somewhere.
Back when Pantheon was powerful, playing in a game against him was fucking awful. Back when he was pretty much the best mid, the best ad character, etc etc.
Nocturne's kit is super powerful and sucks to play against, but if you were to put Pantheon up to Nocturne's level, it wouldn't really compare.
Well said Tracer. Literate, concise, and contained not even a hint of "NO U." Seriously. Well stated. Thread needs more posts like these.
I've played him 5 times since the rape patch and every game has been a dick stabbing festival
a dick impalement carnival if you will
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way to go Riot
also Pantheon was nowhere near as bad as you are saying, Spaceman
he was a strong laning champ who was used to try to shut down solo AD carries, at the cost of having a very mediocre late game
good at solo queue, never was really used for organized games
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like he channels for a second or so and then leaps lux laser range or something
and the jump isn't straight up off the map- he jumps in a really cool arc
it'd be so much cooler.
Dunno about Twisted Fate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coh0eP_lWTk
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz21FXGmxsc
TBH he has an innate armour and attack speed boost along with an aoe that can mass hit creep camps, I'd imagine he'd be one of the impossible to screw up junglers
Completely agreed. Wish his ult was jarvan's ult, basically.
But Gragas is a big fat drunk.
I've only jungled
his gank is pretty awesome honestly
how is that even a contest
I'd say it would easily be at least 20% cooler.
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I think it would be just about 20% cooler.
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but they were nice for a while
especially back in the ol' days of CONQUER THE BUSHES AS SOON AS THE GAME STARTS
I do this every game bushes be mine
So I'll rolling into level 20 soon, which tier 3 runes should I get? Generally speaking but this time in English.
yeah this right here. I own the bushes.
Cause it reminds me of why I quit for 3 months, definitely.
All of them.
have your luck turn around and win 7 games
Last night I got into a losing streak because my friend and I kept winding up on teams with assholes and morons. Like when they made me, as poppy, mid lane because we had no range and then oh hey for some reason this Krasus keeps killing me, and then they all call me names.
Or when theres 3v2 in our favor and I run in and the other 2 run away. Fuck you guys
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