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Do I have potential? and other urgent questions!

m.brooks42m.brooks42 Registered User regular
edited April 2011 in Artist's Corner
Hi I'm Matthew... I'm 22 at school at UCSB in CA. I hate school and I'm not majoring in art. I draw and I try to learn things from the internet. Basically I'm looking for guidance. Am I wasting my time or do I have potential and should I bother going to some kind of illustration school or what options are there for "drawers" (also in terms of careers) and if yes to school which ones in CA are good!? I can work hard and I always try to improve, I'm just worried I don't really have any chance of doing anything with this. Like all the American Idol contestants who's friends told them they sing great and they go and embarrass themselves... not that I'm ready for Simon (or whoever it is now), I just want to know my personal odds according to your opinions... Thanks guys! (it's sort of in order from newest to oldest)

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  • IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited April 2011
    Looks like you improved alot, that recent drawing looks pretty good!

    What part of the artistic spectrum of jobs would you be interested in? Illustration? Concept Art? Animation? Truth is, the industries are tiny, and breaking into it would be quite a commitment. If you want to, I think take a realistic look at how much money you want to make, and if you are willing to go broke for any amount of time trying to go for it.

    It looks like you are doing pretty okay teaching yourself. School, really, wont make you magically ready to be a pro, but it can help buy you time to work on your skills. Before you do anything, I would think of the particular job you would be the most interested in, because it will effect what sort of path you should take.

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  • m.brooks42m.brooks42 Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    ok let's say illustration... what would u say then? first of all I'm not really 100% sure what I would be doing as an illustrator... lol....

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  • m.brooks42m.brooks42 Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    and 100% ready and willing to be broke for any amount of time

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  • m.brooks42m.brooks42 Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Can I as you what you did? I saw your deviant art page and ur awesome!

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  • MustangMustang Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    You only get out what you put into it.
    Despite what the world tells us there in no magic talent genie that hands out artistic gifts to people. You've obviously put some effort into learning how to draw and I see no reason why you shouldn't pursue further if that is what you want to do with your life.

    You'll always go through delusional stages where you think you are better than you actually are. That's why it's a good idea to find a group of artists who you are confident will critique you and will do it without mercy in order to give you a anchor point of where your skills are actually at.

    The one piece of advise I will give you is to try drawing more from life than just photographs. Photo's are great and are always a perfect place for reference, but they will only get you so far in terms of construction, but more so in terms of colour and light. Photographs, relative to your eyes, are extremely limited in what range of colours and lights they can display, where as your eyes are vastly more competent.

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  • m.brooks42m.brooks42 Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    ok thanks... im really wondering where im going with this like... idk where ill end up if i do pour a lot into it u kno?

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  • Million Dollar LambMillion Dollar Lamb Registered User
    edited April 2011
    The best part is not knowing! It was said before you get what you put in, and make sure you don't pass up any opportunity that comes your way.

    PS: Had to post because I love your Charlie Sheen sketch... "I'm bi-winning"

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  • Radar6590Radar6590 Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Well, the trick is that artists can only get better. You may have a few pieces that slip or you don't try quite as hard, but if you consistently put effort in, your skills should only improve. From what you have here it looks like you could easily pursue a professional education with a fair amount of confidence.

    I disagree that you would need to immediately decide what you want to pursue specifically... that's why art schools often have a foundation year that introduces multiple subjects to students. Illustrators, animators, and concept designers all use the same fundamental principals of anatomy, perspective, color theory, composition. All of these things can be learned and mastered by anyone with effort. It just takes time. Keep drawing and you're already on your way.

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  • m.brooks42m.brooks42 Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    thanks radar :)

    since im here already i have another question: ok so i am A HUGE fan of MMA and especially of Jon Bones Jones (fighter)... now the way i see it i would someday like to be the jon jones of drawing or illustration, but how will i know when im there? in other words, jon wins fights, it's objective... but something like art doesn't always make sense to me.. like i DO NOT UNDERSTAND Picasso (Jon jones is sometimes called the picasso of MMA).. see what i mean?

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  • Stupid Mr Whoopsie NameStupid Mr Whoopsie Name Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2011
    Are we talking about Martian Manhunter in here now?

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  • m.brooks42m.brooks42 Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    yes... oops i mean no.. who's that lol?

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  • m.brooks42m.brooks42 Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    ohhh him haha

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  • GlipherGlipher Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    m.brooks42 wrote: »
    thanks radar :)

    since im here already i have another question: ok so i am A HUGE fan of MMA and especially of Jon Bones Jones (fighter)... now the way i see it i would someday like to be the jon jones of drawing or illustration, but how will i know when im there? in other words, jon wins fights, it's objective... but something like art doesn't always make sense to me.. like i DO NOT UNDERSTAND Picasso (Jon jones is sometimes called the picasso of MMA).. see what i mean?
    “Focus on the journey, not the destination. Joy is found not in finishing an activity but in doing it.”

    Or, in other words, don't aim to be Jon Bones Jones.

    That's not to say don't take inspiration from the dude, but rather that you should focus on forging your own identity. There's no static, unchanging path that you have to follow - it's easier said than done but if you have the motivation and are willing to back it up, you can get about anywhere you want to go.

    That said, no matter what - whether your goal is illustration, animation, concept art, portraiture, painting, etc. - you've got to put your heart into it. In any profession there is a lifetime of learning to be found

    So I suggest try not to ask "do I have potential" but try asking yourself "do I care about this enough to get better at it." The former suggests that the only way to be anything in life is to be gifted by ye gods on high, as if such a thing as learning is blasphemy. Uncertainty of personal skill is something every artist (or MMA fighter or writer or physicist or or or...) has to deal with but if art is something you like enough, then you should not consider "potential" among your most urgent questions.

    I make no assumption of you or your goals, so I hope no offense was taken. I can't suggest much on the technical side of drawing as I've got more than enough of it that I need to take to learning, but you've already come across quite a few forumers that can.

    I do suggest, however, keeping in mind the importance of attitude. It's what will keep you going during those times where you're not sure if you can get anywhere at all. It's what will keep you wanting to go further and further, going to places you'd otherwise never even dream of getting to. It's what will remind you of why you're doing what you're doing in the first place and if you can't answer that, that is what I think you should try asking yourself before questions of potential or years of schooling.

    Think on this, my friend. As the saying from a certain rat-infested movie goes, “Not everyone can be a good cook, but a good cook can come from anyone.”

    Good luck!

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  • ScosglenScosglen Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Wondering how you know when you get to be a world class illustrator is like, the last thing you should possibly be thinking about.

    The truth is anybody who is properly motivated can learn how to draw or paint well. It's a craft that can be learned the same as any other practical skill, so put the question of whether or not you have "potential" out of your head. Everyone has potential.

    The real question you need to seriously consider is whether or not you are properly motivated, and how badly you want to be an illustrator or whatever. It's not an easy profession to make your way in, and so you really have to have an actual passion. It's not a fall-back career by any means.

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  • m.brooks42m.brooks42 Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    ratatouille! i love that movie thanks Glipher means a lot!

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  • IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited April 2011
    Radar6590 wrote: »
    I disagree that you would need to immediately decide what you want to pursue specifically... that's why art schools often have a foundation year that introduces multiple subjects to students. Illustrators, animators, and concept designers all use the same fundamental principals of anatomy, perspective, color theory, composition. All of these things can be learned and mastered by anyone with effort. It just takes time. Keep drawing and you're already on your way.

    I didn't mean to imply that he need to choose a job right away, But doing that research early on can be really helpful when trying to go through school. He will be learning the same fundamental stuff, but getting to know what Industry you want to wiggle into can be motivating, it enables you to give yourself specific assignments when you are hitting art block.

    Having an end game is also great for keeping supportive friends and family hopeful and understanding. It sorta depends on your folks, but that can also be pretty important.

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  • Radar6590Radar6590 Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    True.

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