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e-Smokes

ForkesForkes Registered User regular
edited April 2011 in Help / Advice Forum
So I have been trying to quit smoking, and not having a lot luck. I have heard a lot of talk about e-smokes.

Anyone have any experience with them? I'm in Canada, not sure if I would need to order one from the States.

How much do they cost, how long do they last and do they work?

Any info would be much appreciated.

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  • ForkesForkes Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Nothing? No one has any experience with these things?

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  • RynaRyna Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I think there was fairly recent thread about this..

    I reckon thats why lack of responses, either that or no one smokes anymore <as he inhales.... and exhales>

    I smoke

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  • MushroomStickMushroomStick Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Also, its easter weekend and a lot of people are away with their families. You'll probably get more useful responses when people start to get home tonight/tomorrow.

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  • harry.timbershaftharry.timbershaft Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I have a co-worker who swears by the things and is having good luck quiting by using it.

    I am always inhaling his 2nd hand vaporization, however.

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  • Kuroi OokamiKuroi Ookami Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I've been thinking about trying them too, just keep in mind if you order them on a website and have them shipped here, it might be iffy?: http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ahc-asc/media/advisories-avis/_2009/2009_53-eng.php

    To summarize "While no electronic smoking product has yet been authorized for sale in Canada, Health Canada has authorized the sale of a number of smoking cessation aids, including nicotine gum, nicotine patches, nicotine inhaler, and nicotine lozenges."

    My google skills are lacking, but I can't find a newer article saying if we have yet authorized them here, which I guess leads to me asking a silly question. If it has yet to be authorized for sale, are we legally allowed to have them imported to us?

    My boyfriend knows someone who was having some success with a brand. When he wakes, I'll ask him if he can remember the brand that friend was using.

    Edited to add:
    Also on the same date was this: http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Health/20090327/ecigarettes_090327/

    "Health Canada says that anyone selling, importing, or advertising electronic cigarette products in Canada "must stop doing so immediately." "

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  • rizriz Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    My mom started using it a few weeks (?) ago. She's still cheating and smoking one to three real cigarettes a day, but that's still a bazillion times better than the pack she was smoking before, and hopefully she'll keep having less... I've noticed it has helped her break her routine/habits which is a big part of quitting. (Like, she didn't even realize she hadn't lit up after dinner last night, which of course I noticed as when I visit it usually makes me immediately vacate the kitchen.)

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  • Forbe!Forbe! Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    They are not proven to be an effective cessation tool, nor are they specifically designed to be a cessation tool.

    Just like cigarettes, they aren't regulated by the FDA. FDA tests have shown that nicotine levels vary greatly in certain brands of cartridges (often having more/less than advertised), even some 'nicotine free' cartridges had nicotine in them. Some of the cartridges have some of the carcinogens present in cigarettes. You need to realize you would be switching from one unregulated nicotine delivery system to another unregulated nicotine delivery system.

    I wasn't a fan of the e-cigarette because it doesn't have the burn I enjoy from regular cigarettes. I've been cigarette free for almost 2 years now, and I can say this much; A lot of what smoking was for me was the oral fixation. IE: the physical act of smoking. The entire ritual of smoking a cigarette is comforting especially in stressful situations. Removing myself from situations where I would smoke, as well as using other cessation tools (chewing gum, sunflower seeds, taking a walk when I was nervous, etc) were more effective for me than the gum or patch. I don't think replacing nicotine with more nicotine would work for me, but ymmv.

    Good luck.

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  • Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I am an ecig user. I tried the old ones (friends had some and stuff) and hated them, it didn't really feel or do anything. Just a few months back, though, they came out with this new "tank" system and, holy god. It gives a throat-hit like a real cigarette, it is easy and cheap to refill, and I don't miss the taste of cigarettes nearly as much as I thought I would (word to the wise: The grosser and fatter a flavor sounds, the better it is. I was told this when I got into it and believed I would be different--I got subtle flavors like Applewood, Green Tea, and Cinnamon Ceylon. They were...nice. Then, on a whim, I got some stuff like Orange Dreamsicle and Green Apple Lollipop from this mstsbakery.com spot, and they are DELICIOUS).

    So I recommend them--they're not for everyone, and they aren't as "cool" or whatever as cigarettes, and whether they're "better" is a little up in the air and somewhat contingent on how one regards addictions, but they're cheap (after the initial investment--mine paid for itself in maybe two weeks), they're tasty, they hold a charge unbelievably well, and I can smoke it in the car or in my room without leaving the place smoke-stinky or setting off the smoke alarm

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  • The Crowing OneThe Crowing One Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I ponied up and got one about a month ago. I'm a pack-a-day smoker just over the 10 year mark who has tried pretty much everything except hypnosis, multiple times, to quit.

    They're nice in that they provide that same sort of oral fixation/ritual habit as smoking a cigarette. They, unfortunately, do not really "feel" like smoking a cigarette (to me), but the nicotine and close approximation has been enough for me to bounce between cutting down by half and smoking my full pack.

    And interesting note is that I came down with a moderate/nasty cold a week-and-a-half ago and couldn't take the inhale as it would trigger a crazy coughing fit. Not exactly relevant, but it;s worth noting that they aren't like cigarettes.

    The flavor is nice, and is, frankly, better than a cigarette. Be warned that the "tobacco" flavors don't actually taste like tobacco.

    As a cessation tool Forbe! is right: they haven't been approved or looked at by the FDA. This is more a matter of protectionism toward the tobacco industry and our governments inability to comprehend what they are, which is an unregulated, non-medical inhaler.

    They have been helping me. They are, by no means, a complete replacement. I'm finding that of everything I've tried, they seem to actually be the one thing that works.

    The best resource out there is probably the eCig Forum. They have a newbie section that is really great and full of wonderfully helpful people.

    If you're interested, I'd note that the cheapest/best eCig out there that I've found is the Riva 510 lite bundle from Liberty Flights.

    In any case, head over to the forum and ask away. They're all far more knowledgeable than we are, here.

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  • psyck0psyck0 Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Go talk to your doctor about quitting. I'm in medical school and we just covered the topic, so here's the numbers:

    Patch, inhaler, gum, lozenge, and the fake smokes are "smoking cessation aids" and are all equally effective and more effective than placebo. You can use more than one, but TALK TO YOUR DOCTOR before using one because there are "right ways" and "wrong ways" and you would be surprised how many people use them completely incorrectly and shoot themselves in the foot.

    There are also meds, the newest of which is Varenicline (Champix). There's also Wellbutrin (Zyban), which is older and messier. Both of them work better than placebo and better than the smoking aids alone. You can use them along with the aids to improve your odds even more. Varenicline is the better drug from a side-effects profile but if you are one of the people who can't tolerate it, Wellbutrin also works.

    Once again, I really recommend talking to your doctor about this, and my understanding is that the meds plus the aids give you by far the best odds to quit successfully.

    Good luck!

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