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WTB Widescreen LCD Monitor
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Lately ive been thinking that its time I go widescreen, sure would be nice to play WoW in widescreen mode, not to mention hooking up my Xbox 360 to it and playing some GoW.
So whats a good widescreen LCD monitor? At work I can get this for about $263. Im looking to spend a max of about $300, if there is a better one out there for less or a little bit more please let me know.
So whats a good widescreen LCD monitor? At work I can get this for about $263. Im looking to spend a max of about $300, if there is a better one out there for less or a little bit more please let me know.
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2ms video response time? nice... I'm definitely interested in getting this. However, I've never heard of proview.
I second this motion. The Dell's are really nice, and the 2407 is probably the best option to play your 360 on.
I regret that I didn't save for the component ready monitor at the time, but I'm still incredibly pleased with my 2005fpw.
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From what i read, that was on the first and second revisions. The current revision A03, this was fixed.
I'd rather go for a good 20" or 24" if I was you. I recently got myself a LG 204WT-SF (20.1") monitor, and I couldn't be happier with it
The smaller LCD is a plain 19', and the bigger one is the 24' widescreen.
behold and prepare to weep...
There's two of those same LG monitors sitting on the desk behind me for my workstation, so i'm really happy to hear that you're happy with them.
It really is a nice monitor, and at the prices they're charging it's a steal. I was quite surprised to see such excellent colors from a TN panel, and the contrasts are great. For once blacks really are black!
I did do quite a lot of investigation before purchasing though, and the display section over at [H]ard|Forum proved to be an invaluable source of information.
I thought the most recent revision simply obfuscated the panel type, so people can't tell exactly what kind of panel they got.
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its a 2ms gray to gray, not black to black like others are measured on so its misleading. i have a proview 17 inch and its crap. the LCD gets ghosting really bad and tends to get burn ins. also a 700:1 contrast ratio is ok, but you're better off saving a bit and getting a Dell or Samsung.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824112005
I have that. Costco sells it. The stand sucks and you might be able to put up with it or get the ergotron neo-flex from staples (another ~40$) You *might* need a replacement DVI cable too. Other then that. The monitor rocks! Its a cheaper TN panel but if you don't do video editing/ professional graphics its not that much of an issue. It looks good on the 360 with the vga cable.
The 20" inch screen seems to be overall a bit better, but its hard to tell. If anyone could point me to some decent reviews of either that would be cool too. Cnet just talks about the buttons, speakers, and stands the least important crap to me.
I really can't handle ghosting so I would like to get as fast a screen as possible while still getting good color and contrast. Its also impossible to get an idea about whether or not a screen will have ghosting in a store because they just have them sitting there with static images. I don't do any graphic design or anything, mainly games and documents. It's just damn hard to tell which screen would be best for gaming.
The 24" Dell does look super sexy, but I'm not sure I need that big a screen, and I don't think I'm ready to drop that much money on one yet.
Dell really can't come out and say the A03 actually fixed the banding/componenet issues otherwise everyone would ask for a replacement for their A02s etc. But pretty much everyone I've heard of with an A03 doesn't have banding issues.
Pretty much every LCD has some amount of input lag. I think the 2407s are comparable with other monitors, certainly better than the 2405s were.
It really is an excellent monitor. Banding is non-existant in desktop mode (only seen when using multimedia/gaming setup modes) while running DVI.
I also have my Xbox360 hooked up with the VGA cables, and it looks great. Only a minor problem of a gray "haircombing" lines at the bottom of the screen when running the 1080 resolution that is easily fixed by turning down the sharpness on the monitor from 50 to 30. (Although the monitor doesn't remember this setting under VGA mode so if you like to flip from DVI -> VGA you have to turn down the sharpness every time you switch back.)
A big thumbs up for the 2407FPW for sure regardless of its minor problems.
p.s. It's cheap(ish?) Woo.
Their price advantage mightn't be as big in the US, but they are still great value, and are definitely worth checking out:
Chimei 221D-NBC 22" ($290):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824252008
I can't speak for the 22 incher, but I just got the VX2025wm and it's a brilliant screen. Very bright out of the box, but with a little calibration the colors are dead on, no perceptible backlight bleed and black is actually black. No banding, either. It's a tad slow at 8 ms but you get a very nice 8-bit P-MVA panel and I've yet to see it ghost. Unfortunately, it's been pulled in lieu of the 2035 which has a 6-bit TN panel, a faster panel with less impressive colors. I'm sure the 2035 is nice, but if you can find a 2025 I'd snatch that up instead.
The Dell 2007 was the other monitor I was contemplating, you might look into that as well.
I think the best way to tell was any panel that did NOT list 16.7 million colors specifically was going to band.
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http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/productDetail.do?oid=156262&WT.mc_n=92&WT.mc_t=U&cm_ven=COMPARISON%20SHOPPING&cm_cat=NEXTAG&cm_pla=DATAFEED-%3EPRODUCTS&cm_ite=1%20PRODUCT&cm_keycode=92
5ms and a dangerous 2000:1 contrast ratio (very nice and bright)
I've had mine for a month and it is luxurious. for one to two people t
Haven't seen any reviews so I'm guessing so. They are claiming a hell of a contrast ratio at 3000. I know it's not actually anywhere near that but I've always liked LGs LCD screens. I'm guessing it's basically like all the other 22" panels though.
I actually ordered the VG2230wm recently and it should be waiting for me when I get home today. While one day is hardly any impression, really, I'll throw up some initial thoughts once I try it out. I got it from Amazon - $10 cheaper there, and as a CA resident I didn't have to pay tax. For what it's worth, my current monitor is a viewsonic and I couldn't be happier with it. It's just gotten a little old.
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As for the question earlier, I really just suggest googling for the model number and the word 'review.' While a lot of them are for sales places, you end up getting a variety of reviews.
The first panel I got had the component inputs crap out on a regular basis -- they worked like 20% of the time. I got a replacement and 1 month later it starts crapping out again during games; black screening for a couple of seconds before sorting itself out again. Really stressful during GH2 solos.
Today when I turn it on I just get a full green display. No green tinge -- a full on green display. Every input I try, every cable I try it's the same story.
I'm just waiting on customer service reopening tomorrow before I chew them out again..
First off, there's always the huge impression left when going from a normal to widescreen, so that should be noted. There are no dead pixels on the screen, although there is one stuck one - I've already gotten it better using a quick run of JScreenFix. I'll run it for longer (30 minutes or so) later tonight when I'm not actively using the comp and see if I can get rid of it altogether.
Not bothering to use the speakers, can't speak for that. The power cable is a little shorter than I'm used to because the monitor doesn't have the little power box halfway down the cable - still reached fine, but worth noting if you're going long already. The buttons on the monitor are in a bit of an awkward position, and pretty much require you to memorize which is which, because the markers for them are difficult to see. It's got a WIDE range of angles/heights/distances that are available on the stand. Quite good when viewing from an angle compared to my older monitor.
All around, I'm quite pleased. I imagine that the parts I'm most pleased with are what would be standard among all widescreen monitors, but the price is very good for what you get.
You have any idea what Amazons return policy is as far as dead pixels go? I found the VX2235 at Office Depot for $350, and they have a 14 day return policy so I wouldn't have to worry about dead pixels out of the box. I think the only actual difference between the VG and the VX is the stand and speakers, neither of which are a major concern.
edit: Also let me know how it looks when gaming. I find ghosting to be pretty irritating.
No idea about Amazon's dead pixel policy, but I do believe they have a 30 day return policy.
I tend to be more of a strategy person than an FPS player, but I booted up Far Cry and didn't notice any ghosting. I did have to turn down some of the quality settings because it was running at a higher resolution/widescreen, but I think that's to be expected.
However, even on Newegg its more expensive then its Chimei equivalent, and Micro Center has the Chimei for 269.99. I could do in store pickup and not pay shipping, 20 bucks is 20 bucks. The Chimei also seems to get better reviews on average then most of these 22 inch screens. Not sure if thats just luck or actual high quality. They make most of the panels anyway so I guess it kind of makes sense that their own branded screens would be pretty good.
ChiMei have a good reputation for making excellent LCD Monitors at really cheap prices.
You aren't going to see any fancy features on a ChiMei monitor, but the panel is probably going to be just as good as most other brands (since they make the 22" panels for most other brands).
I guess that is why everybody gives them excellent reviews. They expect to get a pile of crap for the price, but get something that actually works well.
The only defects I have seen people report with the ChiMei monitors are the usual ones that affect LCDs: occasional excessive backlight bleeding and dead pixels. Just check your monitor over when you get it to make sure that it isn't afflicted with either of these issues and it should be fine.
ATI also offers it trough their drivers...kinda. See, the problem with ATI's solution is that for this to work, the resolution you want to use has to be of the same aspect ratio as your monitors default one. This means that if you have a native resolution of 1680x1050, you could do 1:1 on a 1280x800 res, but not on let's say 1024x768. This pretty much makes it useless.
I just replaced my ATI card with a Nvidia one today, and this is one of the reasons.