New Fire Emblem: Goddess of Dawn Video

Lambert

http://wii.com/jp/movies/fire-emblem-movie1/

Looks great.

According to some it will be released in Japan in two weeks so America should follow soon after and Europe will get it in a few months I guess...

Anyway...

- they really improved the combat animations it seems.

- It looks like it can be played with gamecube/classic controllers.

- Old characters do return (I noticed this weird/goofy green haired guy from PoR for example)

- Mighty Dragons (Bahamut anyone?)

- Big Battles (movie)

- Sothe to the rescue! Seems like he and the magic girl have a special relationship, kind of like Neimi and Colm in "The Sacred Stones"

can't wait.

edit: second promotional video: http://wii.com/jp/movies/wii-cm-soft21/

skace

Someone needs to photoshop one of those pictures of the wii controllers cracking an LCD screen with an image of a dude getting killed by a critical hit.

Thoughtless Muse

I'm definately tempted to get this, despite how underwhelmed I was in PoR's plot, and was so underwhelmed with The Sacred Stones' plot that I knew 20 minutes into the game that I would hate it. I absolutely like Fire Emblem's gameplay, but I've found the story in the games I've played to be unbearable.

Taramoor

I see Callil, Nephenee, Jill, and that big lancer in the orange armor I never used in that video.

So totally boughtened.

Man of the Waves

I was hoping for some animation/graphical improvements, but it looks like the it's the same from PoR. I guess I should just jump head first back into the first one until I get over it.

Anyway, the FE gameplay makes it my favorite SRPG and among my most played strategy games, so this one is already purchased.

skace

Thoughtless Muse wrote:

I'm definately tempted to get this, despite how underwhelmed I was in PoR's plot, and was so underwhelmed with The Sacred Stones' plot that I knew 20 minutes into the game that I would hate it. I absolutely like Fire Emblem's gameplay, but I've found the story in the games I've played to be unbearable.

Worrying about the plot in these games is like worrying about the music in a porno.

WotanAnubis

skace wrote:

Worrying about the plot in these games is like worrying about the music in a porno.

You have got to be kidding.

Anyways, about the vid... what kind of genius puts an archer with barely any HP within range of tiger laguz?

And while I did see Callil, Devdan, Anna and one of those merchant dudes, I seem to have missed Nephenee and Jill.

LoneIgadzra

Thoughtless Muse wrote:

I'm definately tempted to get this, despite how underwhelmed I was in PoR's plot, and was so underwhelmed with The Sacred Stones' plot that I knew 20 minutes into the game that I would hate it. I absolutely like Fire Emblem's gameplay, but I've found the story in the games I've played to be unbearable.

Yeah, I agree there. PoR tried so hard, and in the end it was twice as retarded as even the worst SNES RPG. (Actually, was there a bad one? I think even FF5 was more interesting and had better characters...)

skace

I have to be kidding?

I'm playing Sacred Stones right now, the plot is retarded and extremely cliche. It doesn't stop the game from being good.

If I were playing this game for the plot, I would have thrown it away the second [spoiler:73ab51d924]the prince thought he could attack a fortified castle with 4 units.[/spoiler:73ab51d924]

WotanAnubis

skace wrote:

I have to be kidding?

I'm playing Sacred Stones right now, the plot is retarded and extremely cliche. It doesn't stop the game from being good.

If I were playing this game for the plot, I would have thrown it away the second [spoiler:59fb7893dc]the prince thought he could attack a fortified castle with 4 units.[/spoiler:59fb7893dc]

[spoiler:59fb7893dc]Because small taskforces never get anything done, obviously.[/spoiler:59fb7893dc]

And I'll admit, the whole "X number of minerals sealing evil" has been overdone. But at least Sacred Stones has got lots of treachery on all sides.

UncleSporky

The story is very important to Fire Emblem. While the actual plot to PoR may have been cliche, it has the most tasteful, interesting and mature writing I've ever read in a video game.

Chen

So I hear this game will star Jill and Nephenee again.

Oh God, let this be true.

Mumblyfish

WotanAnubis wrote:

[...]And while I did see Callil, Devdan, Anna and one of those merchant dudes, I seem to have missed Nephenee and Jill.

Hooray, let's play returning-characterspotting!

00:12 Ranulf.
00:14 That Begnion general whose name escapes me. In Path of Radiance his troops follow Ike to the Daien capital, and Ike orders him to stay put. He's leading the charge against Laguz in the cinema, so he's probably an antagonist.
00:20 Sothe. Duh.
00:56 LolDevdan.
01:04 Jorge.
01:14 Calill.
01:21 Suspend/Resume confirmation girl from Game Boy Fire Emblems in cameo shocker? Possibly.
01:23 Is... is that Sothe? If so, he starts this game at Level Suck. 15 Hitpoints. Hooray.
01:43 Tibarn.

I've combed through that video and couldn't find hide nor hair or Nephenee and and Jill. A case of mistaken identity, perhaps.

WotanAnubis

Chen wrote:

So I hear this game will star Jill and Nephenee again.

Oh God, let this be true.

Don't know about Nephenee, but when it comes to Jill all signs point towards 'yes':


Oh, and that Begnion general is called Zelgius.

Johannen

Any chance they'll put this on the DS?

Mumblyfish

As an aside, I'm really fond of the new art style used for character portraits. It's most evident when comparing "new" Jill to "old" Jill. I can't quite pin down exactly why it's more appealing; I think it's simply due to being overjoyed that Jill no longer suffers from an unflattering portrait angle, or "Fat Face Syndrome", as before skills come into play she's my favourite unit in Path of Radiance.

Lambert

The story in Path of Radiance was alright.

Kind of like a favourite TV show where you keep watching following episodes because you want to know what happens next or how it ends.

The pacing of Fire Emblem is excellent in this regard (mission -> story bit -> mission -> story bit).

Chen

Well, Jill definitely looks more mature which is a nice touch. Nephenee was probably my favorite unit and character combined, so I'm looking forward to seeing her role in this whole plot. There was an unfortunate lack of character endings in PoR, which GoD will probably rectify. The localization process could take a while though.

cj iwakura

I've enjoyed every Fire Emblem story so far, but I think I'm kind of immune to cliche storylines.

The first was definitely my favorite, with PoR being a close second.

And the localization should be worth waiting for, because the dialogue's been top notch if nothing else.

GoD is definitely a game I'd get a Wii for. Especially if Astrid comes back.

Mumblyfish

cj iwakura wrote:

GoD is definitely a game I'd get a Wii for. Especially if Astrid comes back.

A Paladin with shit for Defense? LolAstrid. I wouldn't shed a single tear if Astrid died in a fire during the opening cinema. She wouldn't look so bad if Geoffrey didn't pop up with the same weapons (Bow, Lance), the same skill (Paragon), General-level Defense and the capability to hit level 20 on the same map he joins. Or if by the point you get her Oscar and Kieran are roving death, both of which should be capable of deflecting arrows and axe swings using only their arse.

I've used her on three seperate games, and as suck goes she's second only to Mist.

UncleSporky

Mumblyfish wrote:

cj iwakura wrote:

GoD is definitely a game I'd get a Wii for. Especially if Astrid comes back.

A Paladin with shit for Defense? LolAstrid. I wouldn't shed a single tear if Astrid died in a fire during the opening cinema. She wouldn't look so bad if Geoffrey didn't pop up with the same weapons (Bow, Lance), the same skill (Paragon), General-level Defense and the capability to hit level 20 on the same map he joins. Or if by the point you get her Oscar and Kieran are roving death, both of which should be capable of deflecting arrows and axe swings using only their arse.

I've used her on three seperate games, and as suck goes she's second only to Mist.

What the hell? I've used both on two seperate games and both of them are awesome. I must've just been blessed by the RNG, because Mist in particular was an average warrior, made all the more useful by her ability to heal.

cj iwakura

My Astrid can and has single-handedly cleared entire maps.

Then again, my Nephenee was worthless, so maybe I just took an alternate bias.

Lunker

UncleSporky wrote:

The story is very important to Fire Emblem. While the actual plot to PoR may have been cliche, it has the most tasteful, interesting and mature writing I've ever read in a video game.

Agreed -- it's not that the story is bad, it's that it's an excellent take on pretty well-trodden ground. Which I have no problems with in a game such as this.

Unfortunately, I'll be passing on this -- I love Fire Emblem, even though I suck at the games, but lack of free time has led me to limit my RPG/strat-RPGs to handheld platforms. On a related note ... FIRE EMBLEM DS! WORK ON IT, BIATCHES!

UncleSporky

Lunker wrote:

UncleSporky wrote:

The story is very important to Fire Emblem. While the actual plot to PoR may have been cliche, it has the most tasteful, interesting and mature writing I've ever read in a video game.

Agreed -- it's not that the story is bad, it's that it's an excellent take on pretty well-trodden ground. Which I have no problems with in a game such as this.

Unfortunately, I'll be passing on this -- I love Fire Emblem, even though I suck at the games, but lack of free time has led me to limit my RPG/strat-RPGs to handheld platforms. On a related note ... FIRE EMBLEM DS! WORK ON IT, BIATCHES!

My favorite part of the whole story was[spoiler:3f9e25830c]Volke and his whole reveal. Oh, my dad hired you to kill him in case he loses control again, and now you're offering me the same service?[/spoiler:3f9e25830c]

Vangu Vegro

cj iwakura wrote:

My Astrid can and has single-handedly cleared entire maps.

Then again, my Nephenee was worthless, so maybe I just took an alternate bias.

True for me too, on both counts. Though to be fair, Neph would have been better if I'd actually used her when I got her...

Evil Multifarious

UncleSporky wrote:

The story is very important to Fire Emblem. While the actual plot to PoR may have been cliche, it has the most tasteful, interesting and mature writing I've ever read in a video game.

If by "tasteful, interesting and mature" you mean "a translation with far less spelling and grammatical errors," then yes. The writing is absolutely horrible, though. Some of the worst dialogue I've seen in a videogame, because it thinks it's good.

I wouldn't even mind, but the sheer massive amount of text they throw at you because the story is so "important" makes the game almost unplayable. You spend more time speeding up text than playing the game itself.

WotanAnubis

Evil Multifarious wrote:

UncleSporky wrote:

The story is very important to Fire Emblem. While the actual plot to PoR may have been cliche, it has the most tasteful, interesting and mature writing I've ever read in a video game.

If by "tasteful, interesting and mature" you mean "a translation with far less spelling and grammatical errors," then yes. The writing is absolutely horrible, though. Some of the worst dialogue I've seen in a videogame, because it thinks it's good.

Really? I always felt the dialogue was appropriate for the semi-late-medieval atmosphere of the games. Which may make it sound stiff and needlessly verbose to modern ears, but it does fit.

I wouldn't even mind, but the sheer massive amount of text they throw at you because the story is so "important" makes the game almost unplayable. You spend more time speeding up text than playing the game itself.

Clearly, someone needs to discover the start button.

Rami

"I also like your large arms" is one of my favourite lines from any game ever.

Mumblyfish

Rami wrote:

"I also like your large arms" is one of my favourite lines from any game ever.

From memory (I make a point of getting this every playthrough; it's the only reason I use Ulki and Boyd):

[spoiler:a4e71a541c]Ulki: So... what do you want from me?
Boyd: Nothing! I was just noticing your features. You have such an interesting face!
Ulki: ...Do you have a problem with my face?
Boyd: No, no problem! It's so tough! Manly! I wish it was my face!
Ulki: Well, you seem healthy. And you have good hair, for a beorc. I also like your large arms.
Boyd: Want to make out?[/spoiler:a4e71a541c]

Whoever said Fire Emblem's writing was rubbish? It's not too often one gets homoerotic fiction of that caliber in a videogame.

LoneIgadzra

WotanAnubis wrote:

Evil Multifarious wrote:

UncleSporky wrote:

The story is very important to Fire Emblem. While the actual plot to PoR may have been cliche, it has the most tasteful, interesting and mature writing I've ever read in a video game.

If by "tasteful, interesting and mature" you mean "a translation with far less spelling and grammatical errors," then yes. The writing is absolutely horrible, though. Some of the worst dialogue I've seen in a videogame, because it thinks it's good.

Really? I always felt the dialogue was appropriate for the semi-late-medieval atmosphere of the games. Which may make it sound stiff and needlessly verbose to modern ears, but it does fit.

I wouldn't even mind, but the sheer massive amount of text they throw at you because the story is so "important" makes the game almost unplayable. You spend more time speeding up text than playing the game itself.

Clearly, someone needs to discover the start button.

Stiff and needlessly verbose is not authentic medieval. Did anyone actually sit around saying too many words back then? I don't think so. I can read old old novels and deal with it, but Fire Emblem is sort of like the painful reading sans any semblance of authenticity or originality (or lacking that, characters I can remotely begin to give a shit about), and on top of that it seems to think it's awesome. The longer I played the less I cared about anything, and the more I felt my brain melting.

As for the start button, to be honest I like the game-play, but not enough to get through the game without a story to pull me through. (Story in a video game is very important to me - it doesn't have to be original, it just has to be told authentically and get me involved a little with the characters.) So it's a catch-22.

Well, I should probably stay away from the thread since I'm basically doing what I always complain about people doing when Halo gets mentioned, but I wanted to back up the one guy on this forum who had the same experience with these games.

obijkenobi

If you didn't like PoR's writing and story and it wasn't enough to keep you interested in the game, you're probably better off not playing/buying any Fire Emblem games at all.

Jam Warrior

Has the whole "PoR included in GoD" rumour been debunked at all?

Diablo Fett

I've been studying that picture confirming Jill, and does anyone else think that guy standing to the left of Caineghis's nephew could be Soren? I can't get a good look at the guys eyes, which would pretty much confirm it, but Soren is part Laguz, so it could make sense, especially considering they're keeping the guys name secret.

Just an observation. Anyone else think along the same lines?

obijkenobi

Yes, it has already. No one's mentioned that being the case and the game ships next week in Japan.

obijkenobi

Diablo Fett wrote:

I've been studying that picture confirming Jill, and does anyone else think that guy standing to the left of Caineghis's nephew could be Soren? I can't get a good look at the guys eyes, which would pretty much confirm it, but Soren is part Laguz, so it could make sense, especially considering they're keeping the guys name secret.

Just an observation. Anyone else think along the same lines?

The guy doesn't look anything like Soren to me. I think people would have mentioned it being him if it was him. And I don't think Soren would have just hung out with Laguz and joined them in a war against the beorc since he said that would be unthinkable. He probably stays with Ike as a mercenary somewehre in Crimea

Gino

They can't bring this here fast enough for me. It's a instant buy.

I skipped the GCN FE but I'm going to pick it up sometime in the next couple of months in anticipation for this.

Neo Rasa

Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu just got put on the Virtual Console a little while ago (last week?) and Monshou no Nazo came out right after Christmas. If this new Wii Fire Emblem does well I hope, yet again, that Nintendo considers localizing the originals.

DS compilation? Virtual Console release? I'd even take individual GBA games. Anything.

Diablo Fett

obijkenobi wrote:

Diablo Fett wrote:

I've been studying that picture confirming Jill, and does anyone else think that guy standing to the left of Caineghis's nephew could be Soren? I can't get a good look at the guys eyes, which would pretty much confirm it, but Soren is part Laguz, so it could make sense, especially considering they're keeping the guys name secret.

Just an observation. Anyone else think along the same lines?

The guy doesn't look anything like Soren to me. I think people would have mentioned it being him if it was him. And I don't think Soren would have just hung out with Laguz and joined them in a war against the beorc since he said that would be unthinkable. He probably stays with Ike as a mercenary somewehre in Crimea

No one can really confirm it because instead of the guy's name there's a question mark. They may be trying to keep him a secret.

As for plot-wise, like i said, he's part Laguz. His time with Ike has made him much more friendly with the Laguz, so perhaps over this whole time he's been establishing relationships with more Laguz and when Beignon invades, he takes the side of his brethren, against the country he wasn't particularly fond of in the first place.

I could be completely wrong. I just really hope both Soren and Stephan show up in the game in some form.

Katchem_ash

This game will be pre-ordered as soon as I can. I only have played the first Fire Emblem on the GC and this is a must buy as well. Good to see SRPG's on the Wii.

Sheep

I was hoping for some animation/graphical improvements, but it looks like the it's the same from PoR. I guess I should just jump head first back into the first one until I get over it.

You didn't notice the vastly improved battle animations?

Terrorbyte

God dammit, why are they letting all those awesome Fire Emblem character designs go to waste with lifeless, sub-par character models? If they're not going to take the time to do the characters justice in 3D, pull a NIS and move back to sprites.

I'm not a graphics whore by any stretch of the imagination and enjoy simplicity where it fits the style of the game, but lifeless environments and characters in a game like this is just unacceptable from my point of view.