Is Nintendo DS lan over the net possible?

malerik

Is there a program that would make it possible for nintendo ds games that dont have nintendo wi-fi capability but do have local multi or single cart play abilities to play over the net?
If not, is there something preventing this from working or is it simply a case that it hasnt happened?
I'm trying to understand the technical side of this, so if anyone can give me specifics that would be great.

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Zek

Theoretically it's possible, but you would have serious synching problems between players because the games won't be designed to compensate for any amount of lag. LAN games on the PC have the same problem when they're played online via brute force methods.

malerik

ah I see, thanks for that. It just seemed such a logical progression after I have heard of things similar to this for the xbox, ps2 and psp so I thought a ds one might be neat (all my friends with ds's live quite far away, so if a game doesnt do netplay, it doesnt get multiplayed very often.)
pity it's dodgy legal wise, that would have been really neat.

Mordrack

An interesting article for you.
http://www.britishgaming.co.uk/?p=50
The DRM/Encryption legality is only a concern for US citizens as the only law prohibiting doing so is the DMCA, just saying.

mntorankusu

The "Ni-Fi" protocol has already been figured out, pretty much entirely. It's just that using it with a router or wi-fi card requires writing a driver for each different chipset.

There's been a "Ni-Fi" driver available for some wireless cards for a long time now, but there's been no tunneling program made. Just programs for sending multiboot demos/homebrew (homebrew only works if your DS is modified, though).

Edit: And there're no legality concerns on tunneling, unless it's prohibited by the EULA or something stupid like that. Tunneling would only involve sending and recieving already-encrypted packets from the systems playing.

Mordrack

mntorankusu wrote:

The "Ni-Fi" protocol has already been figured out, pretty much entirely. It's just that using it with a router or wi-fi card requires writing a driver for each different chipset.

There's been a "Ni-Fi" driver available for some wireless cards for a long time now, but there's been no tunneling program made. Just programs for sending multiboot demos/homebrew (homebrew only works if your DS is modified, though).

The guy who won the WiFi bounty is working on tunneling software.
http://akkit.org/dstunnel/

mntorankusu

Mordrack wrote:

mntorankusu wrote:

The "Ni-Fi" protocol has already been figured out, pretty much entirely. It's just that using it with a router or wi-fi card requires writing a driver for each different chipset.

There's been a "Ni-Fi" driver available for some wireless cards for a long time now, but there's been no tunneling program made. Just programs for sending multiboot demos/homebrew (homebrew only works if your DS is modified, though).

The guy who won the WiFi bounty is working on Tunneling software.
http://akkit.org/dstunnel/

Yeah, I know, but the last time he updated was about a year ago, and then he said it was on hold for the time being. As far as we know it's not currently being worked on.