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billwillbillwill Registered User regular
edited May 2011 in Help / Advice Forum
So I have a job that grants me a lot of free time, and I'd like to get back into portable gaming.

I used to play a Gameboy Advance all the time, but that was years ago (unfortunately I sold it and all its games :cry:). I have an original DS, but it was a hand-me-down, and it's terribly beaten up. The only game I have for it is Mario Kart.

The way I see it, my choices are:

1) Get a DS (not a 3DS, as I'm personally not interested in that)
2) Get a PSP
3) Wait for the NGP

Right now, I'm leaning towards numero uno for the following reasons: It seems cheapest, the games seem cheapest, and there are a lot of classic games I want to play on it (is stuff like SMB3 available to play on it?). The DS also seems better suited to "Pick up and play for 15 minutes", which is what I would prefer rather than something that attempts to emulate the console experience on the go.

On the other hand, the NGP looks amazing. I want it. But the price is probably going to be too outrageous, and then when you factor in the cost of games... eh.

So yeah. Those are my options! Please help me decide!

P.S. I know there's a DSi, a DSi Lite, and then like a giant DS? Is there a significant difference between them? I'm leaning towards the XL one because I have giant hands, but that's all I know about them.

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  • AwkAwk Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Get a 3DS and just disable the 3D? Any reason why you don't want the 3DS? Its like a mini-wii...

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  • billwillbillwill Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Awk wrote: »
    Get a 3DS and just disable the 3D? Any reason why you don't want the 3DS? Its like a mini-wii...

    1) It's more expensive than one of the older DSs.

    2) The battery is supposedly atrocious.

    3) I'd full price for cool new games for it... I assume there is a relatively large catalogue of awesome DS games I could get for cheap.

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  • Skoal CatSkoal Cat Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    The DS Lite is pretty much the most amazing thing ever, and I'll bet you can get a used one for a great price.

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  • AwkAwk Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    note: I did ask a similar question years ago to H/A, and i was surprised that there was a strong consensus on learning something new while at work, making good of my time. I took the advice to heart and studied a new language which i am mastering. You should pick something up, maybe programming, etc.. Best advice I was ever given.

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  • billwillbillwill Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Awk wrote: »
    note: I did ask a similar question years ago to H/A, and i was surprised that there was a strong consensus on learning something new while at work, making good of my time. I took the advice to heart and studied a new language which i am mastering. You should pick something up, maybe programming, etc.. Best advice I was ever given.

    Thanks for the thought, but this doesn't apply to my situation.

    I'm strongly leaning towards the DS. Can anyone recommend good DS games? I'm open to virtually anything (excluding Pokemon).

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  • Kate of LokysKate of Lokys Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    The DS Lite is pretty much the ultimate portable gaming platform, as far as I'm concerned. Great battery life, nice clear screens, comfortable to hold, intuitive to control, and a ridiculously fucking deep game catalog, especially if you include all the GBA games. I mean, the DS has everything from ridiculously fun music rhythm games (Ouendan, Elite Beat Agents) to whimsically elegant puzzle games (Professor Layton) to absurdly immersive dungeon exploration RPGs (Etrian Odyssey) to heavily stylized retro shooters (Geometry Wars).

    My fiance bought me a DS Lite for my birthday something like three years ago, and I don't even want to know how many hundreds of hours I've poured into it. I can go a couple of months without playing it at all, if I'm busy with other stuff... but as soon as my schedule changes and gives me an hour or two stuck on campus between classes with nothing to do, out comes the DS, and I gleefully dive back into trying to unlock every level and pick up every coin in New Super Mario Bros.

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  • billwillbillwill Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    The DS Lite is pretty much the ultimate portable gaming platform, as far as I'm concerned. Great battery life, nice clear screens, comfortable to hold, intuitive to control, and a ridiculously fucking deep game catalog, especially if you include all the GBA games. I mean, the DS has everything from ridiculously fun music rhythm games (Ouendan, Elite Beat Agents) to whimsically elegant puzzle games (Professor Layton) to absurdly immersive dungeon exploration RPGs (Etrian Odyssey) to heavily stylized retro shooters (Geometry Wars).

    My fiance bought me a DS Lite for my birthday something like three years ago, and I don't even want to know how many hundreds of hours I've poured into it. I can go a couple of months without playing it at all, if I'm busy with other stuff... but as soon as my schedule changes and gives me an hour or two stuck on campus between classes with nothing to do, out comes the DS, and I gleefully dive back into trying to unlock every level and pick up every coin in New Super Mario Bros.

    Is there a significant difference between the DS Lite and the DSi?

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  • SmokeStacksSmokeStacks Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    billwill wrote: »
    Is there a significant difference between the DS Lite and the DSi?

    There are about 949 reasons to get a DS Lite instead of a DSi.

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  • AtheraalAtheraal Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    billwill wrote: »
    ...for the following reasons: It seems cheapest, the games seem cheapest, and there are a lot of classic games I want to play on it (is stuff like SMB3 available to play on it?). The DS also seems better suited to "Pick up and play for 15 minutes", which is what I would prefer rather than something that attempts to emulate the console experience on the go.

    Another choice: Get an iPod Touch.

    Monumentally cheap games, most of which are quick pick up and play affairs or remakes of retro games.

    The system itself is cheap, if you go on craigslist you can pretty easily find a first or second generation one for 100 dollars or less. I bought a first gen one like this three years ago and it's still going strong. Or, if you're willing to spend more for longer battery life and more games, get a current gen one.

    Apart from that, I'd chime in with the DS Lite call too.

    edit: Just caught the note about your giant hands.. maybe grab a used iPad? It's basically just a big iPod Touch, and the new version just came out, so I bet there are a bunch of people hawking their old one.

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  • billwillbillwill Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    billwill wrote: »
    Is there a significant difference between the DS Lite and the DSi?

    There are about 949 reasons to get a DS Lite instead of a DSi.

    Can you give me a few of them? :P

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  • billwillbillwill Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Atheraal wrote: »
    billwill wrote: »
    ...for the following reasons: It seems cheapest, the games seem cheapest, and there are a lot of classic games I want to play on it (is stuff like SMB3 available to play on it?). The DS also seems better suited to "Pick up and play for 15 minutes", which is what I would prefer rather than something that attempts to emulate the console experience on the go.

    Another choice: Get an iPod Touch.

    Monumentally cheap games, most of which are quick pick up and play affairs or remakes of retro games.

    The system itself is cheap, if you go on craigslist you can pretty easily find a first or second generation one for 100 dollars or less. I bought a first gen one like this three years ago and it's still going strong. Or, if you're willing to spend more for longer battery life and more games, get a current gen one.

    Apart from that, I'd chime in with the DS Lite call too.

    No thanks. I already have a Zune HD, so I'm set on my MP3 player.

    Overall, I like things that do specific functions very well rather than do-it-all devices of today.

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  • AtheraalAtheraal Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Better get a DS Lite then, because the new generation of mobile gaming devices are all 'do-it-alls'.

    I don't really get the problem with buying a multifunction device for a specific function, but it's your call.

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  • ZxerolZxerol for the smaller pieces, my shovel wouldn't do so i took off my boot and used my shoeRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    billwill wrote: »
    billwill wrote: »
    Is there a significant difference between the DS Lite and the DSi?

    There are about 949 reasons to get a DS Lite instead of a DSi.

    Can you give me a few of them? :P

    The Lite can play GBA games and the DSi can't.

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  • Kate of LokysKate of Lokys Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    There's a handy comparison chart on the DS Wikipedia page showing the differences between the five different models.

    The DS Lite has the best battery life, and it's fully compatible with GBA games, which makes it an excellent all-around choice. They're also cheap as chips these days.

    If backwards compatibility isn't important to you, the DSi XL has the biggest screen, which makes a bit of a difference for things like text recognition.

    Finally, the 3DS is brand-new, doesn't have many exclusive games yet, isn't backwards compatible with GBA games, has the worst battery life, and is the most expensive.

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  • TNTrooperTNTrooper Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    If you get a DSi or a 3DS then consider getting a GBA SP as well. The GBA has plenty of great games and is backwards compatible with the original Gameboy so you get Nintendo's entire 20+ year library on 2 systems.

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  • DeathPrawnDeathPrawn Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    billwill wrote: »
    Atheraal wrote: »
    billwill wrote: »
    ...for the following reasons: It seems cheapest, the games seem cheapest, and there are a lot of classic games I want to play on it (is stuff like SMB3 available to play on it?). The DS also seems better suited to "Pick up and play for 15 minutes", which is what I would prefer rather than something that attempts to emulate the console experience on the go.

    Another choice: Get an iPod Touch.

    Monumentally cheap games, most of which are quick pick up and play affairs or remakes of retro games.

    The system itself is cheap, if you go on craigslist you can pretty easily find a first or second generation one for 100 dollars or less. I bought a first gen one like this three years ago and it's still going strong. Or, if you're willing to spend more for longer battery life and more games, get a current gen one.

    Apart from that, I'd chime in with the DS Lite call too.

    No thanks. I already have a Zune HD, so I'm set on my MP3 player.

    Overall, I like things that do specific functions very well rather than do-it-all devices of today.

    I hate to revisit this idea after you've already said you're not interested, but depending on the type of game you like to play this is definitely worth considering. Not at all because the iPod Touch is an mp3 player or because it's an all-in-one device, but because it's simply a fantastic gaming platform. There are hundreds upon hundreds of fantastic games on the App Store, both from indie developers and big traditional developers/publishers.

    The vast majority of games cost less than $5 a pop, with most priced at either $0.99 or $1.99, meaning you can get a heck of a lot more bang for your buck in terms of variety of gaming experience. This is especially awesome since there's such a large range of innovation happening with indie developers on the platform; as unbelievably fantastic as the DS library is, iOS has a lot more developers playing around with innovative and wildly different types of games.

    Especially if you're looking for 'pick up and play' type experiences, you're doing yourself a big disservice by dismissing it out of hand just because you already have an mp3 player - I'd be praising it as a gaming machine even if it couldn't do anything other than play games. It might not be what you're looking for, but I'd highly recommend at least investigating what the iPod Touch has to offer.

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  • SmokeStacksSmokeStacks Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Zxerol wrote: »
    billwill wrote: »
    billwill wrote: »
    Is there a significant difference between the DS Lite and the DSi?

    There are about 949 reasons to get a DS Lite instead of a DSi.

    Can you give me a few of them? :P

    The Lite can play GBA games and the DSi can't.

    This, right here. Good GBA games are getting a little hard to find, but some places are blowing their stocks out, so you can find really good games on the cheap. Pokeymans, CastleVania, the Mario Advance games, various Final Fantasy ports, Golden Sun, Ninja 5-0, Legend of Zelda ports, Metroid, Advance Wars, the Tony Hawk's Pro Skater ports, Sonic Advance, the list goes on and on.
    TNTrooper wrote: »
    If you get a DSi or a 3DS then consider getting a GBA SP as well. The GBA has plenty of great games and is backwards compatible with the original Gameboy so you get Nintendo's entire 20+ year library on 2 systems.

    This is also good advice. My handheld of choice is the PSP, but I've owned a DSLite and a GBA in the past, and having access to both the DS and GBA libraries will leave you with an almost overwhelming selection of incredible games.

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    My wife has an XL, and I will say I was impressed at how well things scale up to the bigger screen. I was expecting a blocky mess like the old TV adapter for the GBA, but everything I've seen on it actually looks really good.

    On the other hand, you say you're leaning towards it because you have giant hands, don't. It's not really better for big hands, the buttons don't scale up in proportion, the size and spacing is pretty much identical to the smaller models. It's a bit thicker and there's some more room to grip, but the DS isn't a hefty piece of hardware, you don't really need a good hold of it.

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  • DarlanDarlan Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I also recently bought a DSLite instead of a 3DS and feel really, really good about the decision. I'm sure the 3DS library will eventually be great too, but it's really expensive right now, has a terrible battery, has freezing issues, and has a terrible library at the moment. The biggest thing it has going for it is an updated N64 game...OoT is great, but not really a reason to plop down $250 on hardware that will undoubtedly be revised. You'd probably end up getting a revision of the 3DS later on even if you were to buy a first gen right now anyways.

    As for DS models, the XL look great, but the GBA library easily makes the Lite the best choice: Mario 2-Yoshi's Island, Metroid 4 and a remake of 1, a couple of SOTN-style Castlevanias, A Link to the Past...there are a ton of great classics there, and on the cheap.

    It's hard to say anything about the PSP without knowing the NGP price, really.

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  • The Crowing OneThe Crowing One Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I've had an original, fat DS for 4-5 years now, and I've been keeping my eye on prices because I've felt the desire to upgrade my device. For me, the tiny screen brings up the same sort of issues I've been having with gaming on my Droid. The small screen just doesn't make the experience comfortable. I find that I usually have to hold the screen closer to my face than I would oftentimes like to and at times I find that longer-period use strains my eyes and can, sometimes, give me a headache. I was on a three hour flight awhile back and was gung-ho to spend the time plowing through some Professor Layton (which is reason enough to buy a DS, but I digress). I was able to go for about 45 minutes before I just had to stop and put it down for a bit. This is just my experience, and I'm uncertain if others have had the same issue.

    I've been looking at the DSi XL for awhile now and cannot, for the life of me, think that I would get anything else. That bigger screen just makes everything easier from touch-controls to vision. I'd get more use than I do now (and I get a lot of use from my old DS) if it wasn't such a hassle to focus on the screen.

    I'm also less concerned about the GBA catalog (and they're literally dirt cheap now, you could find one with a bit of poking for under $20 and EB sells them for $40 last I checked), because of the sheer breadth of the DS offerings.

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  • StraygatsbyStraygatsby Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I will echo the praise for the DSlite. I love my little red time killer. Fantastic battery life, surprisingly sturdy, and the screens are just big enough while still allowing the awesomely tiny form factor. I haven't cracked 1/100th of the library I could play on this thing yet, much less the 10 games I own. My only complaint is its limited wireless access, but that was rectified with the later DS models, so it's not a big deal.

    Edit: oh, and it's cheap as hell. Just because I can afford to buy a 3DS and its pricy games doesn't mean I want to, yeesh. =)

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  • THEPAIN73THEPAIN73 Shiny. Real shiny.Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    DS Lite for the simple fact of the GBA slot.

    It essentially doubles your library of games to play and those are cheap alternatives in themselves.

    I have owned 2 and so has my fiancé we keep buying them because frankly they are the best handheld ever created. No joke.

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  • Skoal CatSkoal Cat Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    If you're into GBA you'd be doing yourself a disservice not considering a GBA Micro

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    If you still have that beat-up DS and it's working, keep using it. Spend the money you would put down on a Lite on some more games.

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  • THEPAIN73THEPAIN73 Shiny. Real shiny.Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Skoal Cat wrote: »
    If you're into GBA you'd be doing yourself a disservice not considering a GBA Micro

    Shit if it was that easy to find I would have bought one already.

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  • ChopperDaveChopperDave Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I just want to pipe in and say that the 3DS battery isn't nearly as bad when you're playing standard DS games. While the battery life is 3-5 hours for 3DS games, it's more like 6-8 hours for DS games (probably more if you really lower the brightness). Granted, you still get better battery life out of a DSi or a DSLite, but not by as much as you'd think. And the Nyko battery makes the 3DS battery life waaaay better, comparable to that of the DSLite when playing DS games.

    Now, there are still reasons not to get the 3DS: price, resolution scaling on DS games, no GBA backwards compatibility.

    I'd still say it's your best purchase, though. With a 3DS, you get a nice powerful device that can play both the new 3DS stuff and old DS stuff, and has some really nice firmware stuff that you simply won't get with the the DS line. I guarantee you that the 3DS online store will get waaaaay more love than the DSi store in the coming months, and you'll be able to play DSiware games on your 3DS as early as next month, so yeah. Let's not forget that you'll be able to download classic Game Boy, Game Gear, etc. games through the upcoming Virtual Console firmware update. I'm also really excited about how Netflix is coming to the 3DS, with (rumored) 3d movie support.

    I think that's worth the extra $100 over the DSi or DSLite, but YMMV.

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  • TehSpectreTehSpectre Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Depending on what old consoles you used to own (SNES or SEGA), this guy is shaping up to be pretty cool.

    Especially if you're looking into just playing older games.

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  • JaysonFourJaysonFour Classy Monster Kitteh Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I'd echo the idea of saving up for a DSLite, hopefully one still in-box new.

    I wouldn't invest in a 3DS just yet- it's still having the kinks worked out of it, and I always say, people who buy a new console on launch day are simply the last round of bug testers for it.

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  • ChopperDaveChopperDave Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    JaysonFour wrote: »
    I'd echo the idea of saving up for a DSLite, hopefully one still in-box new.

    I wouldn't invest in a 3DS just yet- it's still having the kinks worked out of it, and I always say, people who buy a new console on launch day are simply the last round of bug testers for it.

    Meh. It'll be a few years before we see new hardware or a price drop, so waiting probably won't achieve you anything unless you're OK with not playing any new 3DS/3DSware/3DS virtual console games for two years or so.

    I'd wait until after e3 before deciding whether or not its a bad investment. There may be some really awesome games, firmware, and online content coming down the pipe... or there may not.

    If you're dead set against the 3DS, though, I'd say go with the Lite. There's no point in getting a DSi at this point, with all the online content being shifted to the 3DS and the camera being as mediocre as it is.

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