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Facebook is stealing my thoughts

SpongeCakeSpongeCake Registered User regular
edited May 2011 in Help / Advice Forum
So I've always considered myself savvy when it comes to keeping my personal info personal, but a string of events on Facebook has just majorly freaked me out.

I've got a small, very private profile, viewable only by my friends, and which shouldn't even pop up on public searches for anyone other than friends of friends, simply because I like to keep my private life private. As you probably know, Facebook has a "people you may know" feature, which pops up suggested friends you might want to add. Fair enough. Most of these people are people who my friends have also friended, which makes perfect sense. Others are seemingly completely random folks I've never seen before, which I just ignored until recently.

What's worrying me, is that Facebook has started bringing up "people you may know" from my distant, distant past, that I have had no online or real contact with for longer than Facebook has existed. We also have absolutely zero friends in common. First time this happened it was a girl I went to university with - 0 friends in common, I'm convinced I never had her email address and I've never contacted her on Facebook.
Just recently, a guy has popped up who I haven't spoken to since 1999, again 0 friends in common. He's not even registered with his real name, he's using a novelty one that I remember from '99.

How in the name of fuck has Facebook figured out that I know these people? Where is this data being scoured from?

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  • BobbleBobble Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    SpongeCake wrote: »
    I've got a small, very private profile, viewable only by my friends, and which shouldn't even pop up on public searches for anyone other than friends of friends, simply because I like to keep my private life private. As you probably know, Facebook has a "people you may know" feature, which pops up suggested friends you might want to add. Fair enough. Most of these people are people who my friends have also friended, which makes perfect sense. Others are seemingly completely random folks I've never seen before, which I just ignored until recently.

    Bolded part, are you sure they're random? If Facebook shows you enough people that you went to college with, eventually it'll hit one you recognize. Whether it's college, high school, current location, or maybe even your listed interests, I'd say there's a high probability that you have something in common with these people for the algorithm to show them to you.

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  • finalflight89finalflight89 Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I'd imagine that this situation is something like this diagram, where you're all the way on the left and this person with zero mutual friends is all the way on the right. It's highly probable that you would know said person, even if you don't have a mutual friend, so Facebook will show these people too.

    unledbq.png

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  • DaenrisDaenris Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Yeah, in general if I look closely enough at the huge list of "people you may know" on facebook, it usually turns out they either went to college with me or even just at the same college, or went to school or worked at one of the universities I've worked at. I'm guessing you're seeing a bunch of people like that, that you don't know, and then some that are picked just as arbitrarily by facebook but you do recognize, so it seems weird.

    What's really weird for me is when I see a person on there that I have two friends in common with, except those two friends are from completely separate parts of my life and have no idea that the other exists.

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  • NightslyrNightslyr Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    This is the way Facebook, and really, all social networks work. It looks for the following things:

    People in your geographical network
    People who match some data you provided (your school, your employer, your hobbies, etc.)
    The friends of your friends

    Par for the course.

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  • SpongeCakeSpongeCake Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    The guy from 1999, I can absolutely, categorically guarantee is not in any way connected to any of my current friends, or friends or friends of friends, nor is he in any way geographically or employment-wise related to me or them (and I've not supplied any of that kind of info to Facebook anyway).
    If we're talking sheer chance here, then there are tens of thousands of people who would be showing up alongside him - this guy is popping up every other day, it's clearly more than just chance.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    edited May 2011
    I think Facebook recommends people if they've ever visited your profile.

    You want a paranoid mind reader moment?

    Facebook once recommended two people on the same day.

    One I had only talked to on MSN six months earlier, and never had any other contact.

    The other wrote a comment on my blog years ago.

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  • Skoal CatSkoal Cat Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    How can you possibly guarantee that? 6 degrees of separation?

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  • SpongeCakeSpongeCake Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Skoal Cat wrote: »
    How can you possibly guarantee that? 6 degrees of separation?

    This guy is so far removed from my life that the chances of it being random are like, 1 in a hundred thousand. That'd be fine if I'd also seen a hundred thousand other unrelated people and he'd just popped up in there. There are only about a dozen "0 friends" faces that keep appearing, and his is always there.

    One I had only talked to on MSN six months earlier, and never had any other contact.

    The other wrote a comment on my blog years ago.

    This is precisely the kind of thing I'm getting it. Is Facebook harvesting data from places like MSN to figure out recommended friends lists?

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  • CasualCasual Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle Flap Flap Flap Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    SpongeCake wrote: »
    Skoal Cat wrote: »
    How can you possibly guarantee that? 6 degrees of separation?

    This guy is so far removed from my life that the chances of it being random are like, 1 in a hundred thousand. That'd be fine if I'd also seen a hundred thousand other unrelated people and he'd just popped up in there. There are only about a dozen "0 friends" faces that keep appearing, and his is always there.

    One I had only talked to on MSN six months earlier, and never had any other contact.

    The other wrote a comment on my blog years ago.

    This is precisely the kind of thing I'm getting it. Is Facebook harvesting data from places like MSN to figure out recommended friends lists?

    If you used the same email you signed up to MSN with then yes they do.

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  • SpongeCakeSpongeCake Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Casual wrote: »
    SpongeCake wrote: »
    Skoal Cat wrote: »
    How can you possibly guarantee that? 6 degrees of separation?

    This guy is so far removed from my life that the chances of it being random are like, 1 in a hundred thousand. That'd be fine if I'd also seen a hundred thousand other unrelated people and he'd just popped up in there. There are only about a dozen "0 friends" faces that keep appearing, and his is always there.

    One I had only talked to on MSN six months earlier, and never had any other contact.

    The other wrote a comment on my blog years ago.

    This is precisely the kind of thing I'm getting it. Is Facebook harvesting data from places like MSN to figure out recommended friends lists?

    If you used the same email you signed up to MSN with then yes they do.

    Well super. That's creepy as hell, but good to know.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    edited May 2011
    And it doesn't have to be you that gave them MSN email. Could be someone else that has an MSN email as login or used that "friend finder" that keeps telling me that privacy-sensible friends used it which I consider to be a blatant lie, upon which Facebook logs in with your credentials and scans your address book and history for emails and other data to make links with.

    So it's entirely possible that someone you know gave your privacy away.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    If the other person has any of your details, MSN, email, what have you, and at any point they typed some identifying information (maybe your website, or first name, maybe last name) then they could use services like "import friends from my email contact list" and it would identify you that you may know them.

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    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • Skoal CatSkoal Cat Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Echo wrote: »
    And it doesn't have to be you that gave them MSN email. Could be someone else that has an MSN email as login or used that "friend finder" that keeps telling me that privacy-sensible friends used it which I consider to be a blatant lie, upon which Facebook logs in with your credentials and scans your address book and history for emails and other data to make links with.

    So it's entirely possible that someone you know gave your privacy away.

    I checked, not a single one of my friends who Facebook claims used that service have actually used it.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Skoal Cat wrote: »
    Echo wrote: »
    And it doesn't have to be you that gave them MSN email. Could be someone else that has an MSN email as login or used that "friend finder" that keeps telling me that privacy-sensible friends used it which I consider to be a blatant lie, upon which Facebook logs in with your credentials and scans your address book and history for emails and other data to make links with.

    So it's entirely possible that someone you know gave your privacy away.

    I checked, not a single one of my friends who Facebook claims used that service have actually used it.
    Maybe not knowingly. It's not too tough to do it accidentally if you don't know much about the Internet.

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  • Skoal CatSkoal Cat Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I'm positive at least one of the people I asked knows better and I assume most of the others do as well.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Well I went on my girlfriend's name and it claimed I was using it and she should do it, and on my name vice versa. I can say for certain that neither of us have used it. Well, I can say I have never used it.

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    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    They might also pop up people who had searched for you and looked at your profile, even if they didn't try to friend you. I remember an interview somewhere that stated that Facebook keeps track of every click/view/update.

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  • SpongeCakeSpongeCake Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Man Facebook is pretty durn creepy, huh?

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  • BobbleBobble Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    SpongeCake wrote: »
    The guy from 1999, I can absolutely, categorically guarantee is not in any way connected to any of my current friends, or friends or friends of friends, nor is he in any way geographically or employment-wise related to me or them (and I've not supplied any of that kind of info to Facebook anyway).

    Unless he's got a bunch of information on his profile publicly viewable, then I'm not sure how you can say that since you can't account for his whereabouts and/or life over the last 11-12 years.

    Also, if you viewed his profile, that might increase the chances that Facebook will show it to you again.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    edited May 2011
    Skoal Cat wrote: »
    I checked, not a single one of my friends who Facebook claims used that service have actually used it.

    Friends say they've seen me on it. And I consider my email account to be the keys to my digital life since that's where all password reminders/resets get sent. So yeah, they're blatantly making shit up.
    SpongeCake wrote: »
    Man Facebook is pretty durn creepy, huh?

    Creepy by design.

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  • CorvusCorvus . VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Did you ever use the email friend finder? If you let it scan once, it tends to keep suggesting people.

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  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I can say with confidence that I have absolutely, never used that e-mail friend finder. I have a dummy facebook account I use for playing the obnoxious games. It doesn't list a real region, it is not friends with any of my real friends, it has no connections whatsoever with my outside life. Nonetheless, it recommends friends who have had contact with the e-mail account that I used to sign up. I know some of them would never use the e-mail friend finder either. Therefore, I am quite certain that facebook is somehow able to data harvest, maybe from cookies, contacts from your e-mail, even if you don't let it log in.

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    What is this I don't even.
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