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Deadpool: Where to Start?

DekabalDekabal Registered User regular
edited May 2011 in Graphic Violence
I want to start reading the Deadpool graphic novels and was wondering where I should start. Which one's should I start with, which are the best, and is there a chronilogical to them or are they mostly non-canon?

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    Magna InfernoMagna Inferno Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    *cough* *cough* probably should have went to the "Help Me I'm New To Comics" thread *cough* *cough*

    But your most likely best off starting with the first volume of Daniel Way's deadpool
    Vol 1 - Secret Invasion
    http://www.amazon.com/Deadpool-Vol-1-Secret-Invasion/dp/0785132732/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1306115884&sr=8-1
    Vol 2 - Dark Reign
    http://www.amazon.com/Deadpool-Vol-2-Dark-Reign/dp/0785132740/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_b
    Vol 3 - X Marks the Spot
    http://www.amazon.com/Deadpool-Vol-Marks-Daniel-Way/dp/0785140409/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_c

    But the current best place to get deadpool IMO, is Remender's Uncanny X-Force
    http://www.amazon.com/Uncanny-X-Force-Apocalypse-Rick-Remender/dp/078514854X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1306115996&sr=1-1

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    for current deadpool you can read those

    but I'd start with all the deadppol classic trades then move on to cable and deadpool

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    samurai6966samurai6966 Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I started With Merc with a Mouth. But you kinda have to know a bit about Marvel Zombies (3?) to know what's up with that.

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    merc with a mouth was neat but really, cable and deadpool's 50 isssues is the best deadpool story ever told

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    GankGank Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    There's never a situation where deadpool's mentioned that you don't find it appropriate to recommend "Cable & Deadpool".

    And I'm fine with that.

    Seriously though, he's right, the first arc will have you hooked.

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    samurai6966samurai6966 Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    So after seeing this thread, I started looking for my copy of Merc with a Mouth. Instead, I found Deadpool #900. This is a really nice Deadpool issue. Maybe not much of a starting point, but damn, get it if you can.

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    MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    merc with a mouth was neat but really, cable and deadpool's 50 isssues is the best deadpool story ever told
    Agreed. Plus, the whole runs tells a very complete story. By the end, you've followed the two characters to what's basically the most satisfying end you can hope for, in serial comics. Plus, the hardcovers that the series is being collected into, are pretty nice.

    But, I'm also a proponent of Deadpool: Dark Reign, Deadpool: Monkey Business, Deadpool: Team-Up, and Deadpool: Classic.

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    HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    It's a shame that none of the Deadpool material from the last few years has come near the level of his original ongoing or Cable & Deadpool. You'd think that by now someone would have cracked the code. Way's Deadpool only had a few good moments early on in the run, and one of the other books I've tried have been any good at all.

    So, yeah, my vote is for Deadpool: Classic and Cable & Deadpool.

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    FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Seconding Deadpool Classic and C&D

    There's nothing Way has done that's as good as those series

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    WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Another vote for Cable and Deadpool here; didn't really enjoy Deadpool Classic at all.

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    HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Wildcat wrote: »
    Another vote for Cable and Deadpool here; didn't really enjoy Deadpool Classic at all.

    Which Volume of classic did you read or start with?

    I made the mistake of grabbing the first one, it's the exposition of the character, but it comes before all the stuff that really made him what he is. I hear the other volumes starting with number two, which are only by Joe Kelly, are where all the awesome stuff and the sharper sense of humor come in.

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    WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Yeah, it was the first one. I was hit in the face by an extreme case of nineties!

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    HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Wildcat wrote: »
    Yeah, it was the first one. I was hit in the face by an extreme case of nineties!

    Yeah, same here.

    Like I said, I guess all the good stuff starts with Volume 2. I feel so burnt, though, because those things are so damn expensive. I just flipped through Marvel's digital comics subscription service, and they're all there for the flat fee, but I looked at some of the previews and the old-style 90s coloring seems to be way, way too dark for digital. It's really difficult to read at some points.

    So, that is also shitty...

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    noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I never fully got into Cable and Deadpool. There's some good moments, but there's also times where the Cable part of the book drags it down-though I'll admit he was probably the most interesting there that he's ever been, and their friendship was nice to see.

    For me, the definite Deadpool is Gail Simone's run on the title, as well as Agent X. It's probably also because that was my first introduction to the character. So many great moments. Always makes me sad it's not collected though.

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    DekabalDekabal Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Sorry for posting this here. I forgot there was the help forum. Anyway, from what I gather the order to read the Deadpool comics in would be the Deadpool Classic Collections, then the Volume Series (starting with Secret Invasion), then Merc with a Mouth, then Cable and Deadpool?

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    DelduwathDelduwath Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    It would be Deadpool Classic Collections, THEN Cable & Deadpool, and then the Volume Series and Merc with a Mouth.

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    DarisDaris Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    So you're saying secret invasion Deadpool restart sucks compared to older Deadpool? Wow, and here I thought it's the best thing since sliced bread. Can't wait to pick up the latest this week:

    Death by Hulk

    I want a poster of the cover.

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    MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I don't think current Deadpool is bad, it just suffers from the fact that Way doesn't seem to know how to tell a long-form story, or set up a status quo that allows him to tell episodic stories. Taken on their own, most of his stories are perfectly enjoyable. But reading them month after month gets a bit tedious, because you have to watch the character constantly repeat the cycle of "Should I Be a Hero? --> Nah, Screw Those Guys --> Should I Be a Hero?" over and over again.

    On the other hand, Cable and Deadpool tells a really epic kind of story (which unfortunately goes off the rails near the end), as does Joe Kelly run on the book.

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    KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Yep, agree with Munch, and it's why I stopped reading Deadpool. Enjoyable stories but they're not going anywhere at all. Though I have no idea where you can go longterm with DP at this time.

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    munch I disagree

    cable and deadpool is excellent from beginning to end and never goes off the rails or ever stops being enjoyable

    just ignore them two blood of apocalypse issues

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    MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    edit: TLB, I haven't re-read those in a long time, but from my recollection, that whole stretch between when Patrick Zircher stopped drawing it, and Reilly Brown started drawing it, wasn't great. I've been thinking about buying the Ultimate C&D collections, though. If I ever get around to it, I'll probably read through the whole thing again, and see if my opinion's changed.

    I think Deadpool: Team-Up had the right idea. In it, Deadpool's personality is pretty static. He's a crazy mercenary that basically has a good heart, and feels undervalued and unappreciated by pretty much everyone. The fun of the series, was watching that character bounce off the other larger-than-life personalities of the Marvel U.

    Honestly, I think Marvel needs to put a pin in the whole Heroic Deadpool thing. It was fun, but the character's finished that story, what? Like four times now?

    If I'd had my druthers, Deadpool would have become a legitimately beloved superhero during Dark Reign, under the Norman Osborn administration. Then, once Norman's taken down and all of his villains-turned-heroes are driven underground or imprisoned, Wade's mistakenly imprisoned alongside them, because everyone naturally assumes that he's no better or different from any of the other trash Osborn had on his payroll.

    That gives you a nice jailbreak story arc, which I tend to enjoy, followed up by Deadpool becoming a legitimate supervillain again, albeit a morally complex one. There have been very, very few comics starring villains, doing real supervillain stuff, and I think that could make for a cool ongoing. Then, after a year or so of that, he could get arrested and put on the Thunderbolts. Or the Thunderbolts C-Team, the Blunderbolts.

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    RuinsRuins Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Is no one reading Deadpool: MAX? That's by far my favorite current Deadpool book.

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    DelduwathDelduwath Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I read the first issue and came away completely uninterested, so didn't buy any more issues. Don't remember what my problem with it was, though.

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    FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    The fact is Joe Kelly's run had both the best comedy Deadpool issue - the time travel one. Harry Osborn's awful 60's slang and Wade's response being "Are you having a stroke?" is still one of my favorite scenes of all time - and the best personal, character exploring one - the entirety of Dead Reckoning.

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    HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Ruins wrote: »
    Is no one reading Deadpool: MAX? That's by far my favorite current Deadpool book.

    I started buying it before I fell way behind on everything. I remember being torn on the first couple issues; they were hilarious at times, but they really did go overboard with the sex and gore. I like the cartoony-comedy of Deadpool, and that was there, but there was also a lot of stereotypical shit & gore humor that turned me off.

    Still, I grabbed up to 6 in singles. I'll read them soon, and if I like it enough, I'll grab 7-12 when they hit trade.

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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    No love for Deadpool Team-Up? Sad.

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I loved team-up when it hit, but enough issues missed that I can't recommend it

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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    the gorilla man issue is hilarious

    really there only needed to be two deadpool titles: Way's title with a more character orientation bent, and team-up which was a bunch of unrelated silly escapades

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I honestly think Way does not understand character at all

    He can write a story and have the characters speak the way they should

    But he has no idea how to develop this

    He has no idea how to use character to tell a story, but instead tells a bunch of similar stories with a character that acts the way you'd expect and never delves into why this is, nor makes any attempt to try and do something different.

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    Psychotic OnePsychotic One The Lord of No Pants Parts UnknownRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I like the classics and they really do set the backstory of Wade up rather well. Some of the stuff like Agent X and T-Ray makes alot more sense when you read the history that built them up. Other wise with out classics the T-Ray section of Cable and Deadpool doesn't make much sense. Plus it has some great stories like him breaking Typhoid Mary out of prision and her lusting after Wade.

    Just bought Classics vol. 4 today and it explains Wade's origin and how he got the name Deadpool. Plus it starts the love affair of Wade and Death. Only thing that sucks about the classics is how slow they come out.

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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I honestly think Way does not understand character at all

    He can write a story and have the characters speak the way they should

    But he has no idea how to develop this

    He has no idea how to use character to tell a story, but instead tells a bunch of similar stories with a character that acts the way you'd expect and never delves into why this is, nor makes any attempt to try and do something different.

    I thought he was onto something for the first...10 issues? right around when the Dark Reign arc ended it sorta fell to pieces

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    Psychotic OnePsychotic One The Lord of No Pants Parts UnknownRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Has Warren Ellis ever written Deadpool? I think he would have been a great match for Brain Damaged and Random Deadpool.

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    CorporateLogoCorporateLogo The toilet knows how I feelRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Hullis wrote: »
    the gorilla man issue is hilarious

    The Gorilla Man issue was probably the best in the series

    Parker dropped the "multiple voices in wade's head" thing that has been in vogue since Way started on the ongoing and was better for it

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    GankGank Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Hullis wrote: »
    the gorilla man issue is hilarious

    The Gorilla Man issue was probably the best in the series

    Parker dropped the "multiple voices in wade's head" thing that has been in vogue since Way started on the ongoing and was better for it

    Now now, the Iron Fist issue is definitely a contender for "Best in Series". But it was so good to have an issue free of Deadpool's other voices.

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    MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I'm actually partial to the Machine Man/Deadpool issue.

    Usually, the formula in Team-Up was Deadpool + Straight-Man. The Machine Man issue reversed that formula, teaming him up with another funny character.

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    GankGank Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Damn, that was a good'n. Any way they can wedge Nextwave into continuity is always good too.

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    CorporateLogoCorporateLogo The toilet knows how I feelRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I wasn't a fan of that one

    It just seemed like the writer turned the Nextwave personality up to 11 and then called it a day

    Also I was shocked at how good the Iron Fist issue was given McCarthy's track record with All Hail Megatron

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