Oh yeah, and I forgot about the tiny smash brothers announcement. Smash Brothers 3DS is a thing that I desperately want, the WiiU connectivity stuff sounds cool too.
Maybe the highlight of the conference for me, considering how little we really know about the WiiU at this point. I do like the opportunities presented by the controller though, even simple stuff like playing poker with friends, which you can't do with just one monitor for obvious reasons. And that idea expands into other genres as well, maybe eliminating screen looking from FPS's, etc.
Ooh, there's Animal Crossing and Paper Mario videos on the eshop.
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edited June 2011
Not very impressed. I'm glad there are ports coming, but more games are kinda needed. Sorry.
I don't feel the Wii really lived up to the Wiimote's potential, and in some games like DKCR it was unnecessarily tacked on. Unless major things happen between now and launch, I am going to wait with the WiiU.
Anyone who thinks I am too demanding? I don't want to just blurt out an opinion. As I said, I am going to wait and see - I can be wooed before launch and I am not going "DEAD TO ME!".
What's with people complaining about the graphics and calling it sub-360? Did you even watch the last half of the conference? Or just see a few screens of the shitty looking Mii prototype games and start posting?
So... There are no new Wii games coming out now. Ever? And the new console is about a year away? I don't know if I can think of a precedent here, other than maybe the Dreamcast. So weird.
Xenoblade and Last Story are still coming out.
Are they coming out in NA? To be honest, this is the only thing I've been disappointed with so far. It seems like NoA is choosing to ignore them.
It seems that way. Just import the European versions when they come out.
I got the same sinking feeling from this that I did when they announced the Wii. The "okay I guess that looks neat but why?" feeling. There's nothing wrong with the traditional controller.
All in all I think keeping the Wii name is telling. In that this will be just like the Wii. A lot of third parties get excited over the tech, then the PS4/720 are announced which blow the WiiU out of the water, everyone abandons WiiU to the shovelware market.
Maybe I'm a pessimist, but that was one of the most disappointing console reveals ever.
The controller seems really good. They better put out some new Four Swords for it. And Pikmin, if Pikmin doesn't show up next year I will riot.
My concern is basically if they are going to future proof the hardware. If they don't I think support and sales will slump after about 2 years when MS and Sony's new consoles obliterate it.
Who would be able to afford to make games for consoles that obliterate the WiiU?
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Not very impressed. I'm glad there are ports coming, but more games are kinda needed. Sorry.
I don't feel the Wii really lived up to the Wiimote's potential, and in some games like DKCR it was unnecessarily tacked on. Unless major things happen between now and launch, I am going to wait with the WiiU.
Anyone who thinks I am too demanding? I don't want to just blurt out an opinion. As I said, I am going to wait and see - I can be wooed before launch and I am not going "DEAD TO ME!".
Wait and see what actually comes out of E3. Only so much time at these demonstrations, and most console introductions at E3 have been pretty week as far as games demonstrated (or were like Sony with their MAXIMUM DAMAGE demonstration).
Launch is a year off, that's a lot of time, and Reggie even pointed out that a lot of stuff was in an early state.
On another note, the Zelda HD video and the bird video seemed to be the only two 'This is what the WiiU can do' bits power wise.
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I just don't see how playing a game can be comfortable on a controller like that for long periods of time, and while there are some interesting functions there are none that seem really that useful beyond just a gimmick. The Wii was fun and innovative and I was happy to shell out some money to support Nintendo for taking a chance, but this time they are going to need to have a lot more substance. I hope they show up to PAX.
What's with people complaining about the graphics and calling it sub-360? Did you even watch the last half of the conference? Or just see a few screens of the shitty looking Mii prototype games and start posting?
None of those were actually rendered on the Wii-U. You can even see a fraps watermark on one of them
Kotaku has some videos up now, though not in HD. They claim the quality is awesome, though.
Anyone notice how some things (mattresses and the copy machines in Highrise) are totally impenetrable? A steel wall, yeah that makes sense, but bullets should obliterate copy machines.
I don't know about you, but I always buy a bullet proof printer. Its a lot more expensive, but I think the advantages are apparent.
I actually don't think the controller's that bad, though single touch is a crime.
Nice that they're stepping to the power of the 360, that's really all I need; something that takes advantage of what my TV can do (unlike the Wii). Even when the PS4 and next Xbox are blowing it out of the water graphically, it'll at least be good enough (people say that about Wii games, but no...most look like bad PS2 games).
Here's hoping they have an Achievement equivalent.
I just don't see how playing a game can be comfortable on a controller like that for long periods of time, and while there are some interesting functions there are none that seem really that useful beyond just a gimmick. The Wii was fun and innovative and I was happy to shell out some money to support Nintendo for taking a chance, but this time they are going to need to have a lot more substance. I hope they show up to PAX.
People said the same about the Wiimote. IGN impressions listed it as being pretty comfy, this is Nintendo after all, they don't screw up ergonomics too often.
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What's with people complaining about the graphics and calling it sub-360? Did you even watch the last half of the conference? Or just see a few screens of the shitty looking Mii prototype games and start posting?
that bird/fish demo was the height of mediocrity.
however! IBM just announced they're using a Power7 processor in the WiiU, which is crazy powerful. It's the same kind of cpu in the watson supercomputer that was on jeopardy. That's a pretty good sign.
I just don't see how playing a game can be comfortable on a controller like that for long periods of time, and while there are some interesting functions there are none that seem really that useful beyond just a gimmick. The Wii was fun and innovative and I was happy to shell out some money to support Nintendo for taking a chance, but this time they are going to need to have a lot more substance. I hope they show up to PAX.
Actually I think the controller could be more comfortable. With your hands spaced out more I think it is more of a natural/ergonomic posture. Hopefully it is fairly low weight though.
I actually don't think the controller's that bad, though single touch is a crime.
Please explain why multitouch is better than L1/L2/joystick plus stylus.
Pinching and zooming is about it. Those motions are more difficult with only 1 finger on the touch pad (but still totally possible with the analog sticks)
But yeah, single touch is not going to be as big a hassle as people are making it out to be. Overall this has a lot of potential.
A LOT more potential than the Wii, with what we've seen at least. I dunno why people say it looks terrible. It's a flat panel, what the hell do you want from it?
What's with people complaining about the graphics and calling it sub-360? Did you even watch the last half of the conference? Or just see a few screens of the shitty looking Mii prototype games and start posting?
that bird/fish demo was the height of mediocrity.
however! IBM just announced they're using a Power7 processor in the WiiU, which is crazy powerful. It's the same kind of cpu in the watson supercomputer that was on jeopardy. That's a pretty good sign.
What's with people complaining about the graphics and calling it sub-360? Did you even watch the last half of the conference? Or just see a few screens of the shitty looking Mii prototype games and start posting?
Yea, judging from the systems specs it's actually slightly more powerful than the 360.
A LOT more potential than the Wii, with what we've seen at least. I dunno why people say it looks terrible. It's a flat panel, what the hell do you want from it?
I think it's going to be a lot easier for developers to find good things to put on the screen, compared to finding ways of shoehorning touch controls in. When playing games I often think of how another screen would help, but less often how motion would help.
Anyone notice how some things (mattresses and the copy machines in Highrise) are totally impenetrable? A steel wall, yeah that makes sense, but bullets should obliterate copy machines.
I don't know about you, but I always buy a bullet proof printer. Its a lot more expensive, but I think the advantages are apparent.
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edited June 2011
So word on the street is that the WiiU only supports using one pad controller, while everyone else must use Wiimotes / 3DS.
Have they said if this is doing wireless video, or processing on the WiiU pad itself?
All in all I think keeping the Wii name is telling. In that this will be just like the Wii. A lot of third parties get excited over the tech, then the PS4/720 are announced which blow the WiiU out of the water, everyone abandons WiiU to the shovelware market.
Except for the fact that the 360 was revealed/released before the Wii...
It's telling that Nintendo didn't show any first party stuff at all, even though they knew about the tech the longest. They desperately want to reel in the third parties, and judging by EA's excitement, they've succeeded in this department more than with the Wii.
So word on the street is that the WiiU only supports using one pad controller, while everyone else must use Wiimotes / 3DS.
No...No that's way too stupid to be true
I think it would suck to be the case, but it would fit with the 'U' part he was talking about at the start ("Wii" is about We/Group, 'U' is about You/one person). Additionally, there'd be a lot of extra technical hurdles to do multiples - since the video is streamed it'd have to render/broadcast the video to each controller, which would be one hell of a strain.
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What's with people complaining about the graphics and calling it sub-360? Did you even watch the last half of the conference? Or just see a few screens of the shitty looking Mii prototype games and start posting?
that bird/fish demo was the height of mediocrity.
however! IBM just announced they're using a Power7 processor in the WiiU, which is crazy powerful. It's the same kind of cpu in the watson supercomputer that was on jeopardy. That's a pretty good sign.
why the hell they didn't show that demo on stage is beyond me, fears of a spaceworld repeat be damned.
That video sold me more on the WiiU than anything that was shown during the conference. Still a lot to learn about it (price, specs, etc), but the controller and screen look really nice.
What's with people complaining about the graphics and calling it sub-360? Did you even watch the last half of the conference? Or just see a few screens of the shitty looking Mii prototype games and start posting?
that bird/fish demo was the height of mediocrity.
however! IBM just announced they're using a Power7 processor in the WiiU, which is crazy powerful. It's the same kind of cpu in the watson supercomputer that was on jeopardy. That's a pretty good sign.
why the hell they didn't show that demo on stage is beyond me, fears of a spaceworld repeat be damned.
I understand why they'd go with a 1 tablet+X WiiMotes/3DS (doubt the last one though). Rendering up to 5 screens at once will be very taxing on the system regardless of what brand new CPU they have in it. I imagine that they'd at best be able to reach 360 graphics if they were to render it for four tablets+the TV - which the "hardcores" that they're aiming this at probably wouldn't be very receptive for.
By limiting it to one tablet they're more guaranteed to end up with graphics that will look significantly better than 360/PS3 and that way be able to draw in more graphic obsessed people.
It might still be up in the air though as I got the feeling that this entire reveal was a bit too early and kinda forced by the shareholders because of all the Cafe leaks so they might very well leave the number of tablets to the developers - letting them decide if they want to go with 4 tablets and less graphics or 1 tablet and more graphics.
They might also go with another compromise and allow downloaded games that will probably anyway be less graphically impressive use 4 tablets for poker games and other concepts that'd utilize the four tablets at once while leaving retail games with just one tablet and a more "next-gen" experience graphically speaking.
What's with people complaining about the graphics and calling it sub-360? Did you even watch the last half of the conference? Or just see a few screens of the shitty looking Mii prototype games and start posting?
Yea, judging from the systems specs it's actually slightly more powerful than the 360.
they haven't released any specs.
we do know though that the P7 processor is crazy powerful and blows the 360 and ps3 clean out of the water
What's with people complaining about the graphics and calling it sub-360? Did you even watch the last half of the conference? Or just see a few screens of the shitty looking Mii prototype games and start posting?
Yea, judging from the systems specs it's actually slightly more powerful than the 360.
they haven't released any specs.
we do know though that the P7 processor is crazy powerful and blows the 360 and ps3 clean out of the water
You're right, I was confusing the rumored leaked specs.
So word on the street is that the WiiU only supports using one pad controller, while everyone else must use Wiimotes / 3DS.
No...No that's way too stupid to be true
It actually makes sense since the two examples of multilayer game play they showed only had one person using the pad controller and the others using the wiimotes.
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edited June 2011
Not interested at all. No Wii games, no sale. More of Nintendo's same old, same old, while Xenoblade and Pandora's Tower are left to rot.
So word on the street is that the WiiU only supports using one pad controller, while everyone else must use Wiimotes / 3DS.
No...No that's way too stupid to be true
It actually makes sense since the two examples of multilayer game play they showed only had one person using the pad controller and the others using the wiimotes.
It makes sense because what system could possibly render four 480p screens and one 1080p screen.
So word on the street is that the WiiU only supports using one pad controller, while everyone else must use Wiimotes / 3DS.
No...No that's way too stupid to be true
It actually makes sense since the two examples of multilayer game play they showed only had one person using the pad controller and the others using the wiimotes.
It does seem like they would've shown at least one shot of two people with Wii-Us if the system supported more than one subscreen.
I just realized they're basically turning your tv into the top half of a large home DS. I mean the controller is just the bottom half of the 3DS, made larger, with two more shoulder buttons.
Soon we will evolve a second set of eyes just to keep up.
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Maybe the highlight of the conference for me, considering how little we really know about the WiiU at this point. I do like the opportunities presented by the controller though, even simple stuff like playing poker with friends, which you can't do with just one monitor for obvious reasons. And that idea expands into other genres as well, maybe eliminating screen looking from FPS's, etc.
I don't feel the Wii really lived up to the Wiimote's potential, and in some games like DKCR it was unnecessarily tacked on. Unless major things happen between now and launch, I am going to wait with the WiiU.
Anyone who thinks I am too demanding? I don't want to just blurt out an opinion. As I said, I am going to wait and see - I can be wooed before launch and I am not going "DEAD TO ME!".
It seems that way. Just import the European versions when they come out.
I got the same sinking feeling from this that I did when they announced the Wii. The "okay I guess that looks neat but why?" feeling. There's nothing wrong with the traditional controller.
All in all I think keeping the Wii name is telling. In that this will be just like the Wii. A lot of third parties get excited over the tech, then the PS4/720 are announced which blow the WiiU out of the water, everyone abandons WiiU to the shovelware market.
Maybe I'm a pessimist, but that was one of the most disappointing console reveals ever.
Who would be able to afford to make games for consoles that obliterate the WiiU?
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Wait and see what actually comes out of E3. Only so much time at these demonstrations, and most console introductions at E3 have been pretty week as far as games demonstrated (or were like Sony with their MAXIMUM DAMAGE demonstration).
Launch is a year off, that's a lot of time, and Reggie even pointed out that a lot of stuff was in an early state.
On another note, the Zelda HD video and the bird video seemed to be the only two 'This is what the WiiU can do' bits power wise.
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No matter how you try to be tricky, there is no way that Kinect won E3.
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None of those were actually rendered on the Wii-U. You can even see a fraps watermark on one of them
Kotaku has some videos up now, though not in HD. They claim the quality is awesome, though.
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I actually don't think the controller's that bad, though single touch is a crime.
Nice that they're stepping to the power of the 360, that's really all I need; something that takes advantage of what my TV can do (unlike the Wii). Even when the PS4 and next Xbox are blowing it out of the water graphically, it'll at least be good enough (people say that about Wii games, but no...most look like bad PS2 games).
Here's hoping they have an Achievement equivalent.
People said the same about the Wiimote. IGN impressions listed it as being pretty comfy, this is Nintendo after all, they don't screw up ergonomics too often.
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Please explain why multitouch is better than L1/L2/joystick plus stylus.
that bird/fish demo was the height of mediocrity.
however! IBM just announced they're using a Power7 processor in the WiiU, which is crazy powerful. It's the same kind of cpu in the watson supercomputer that was on jeopardy. That's a pretty good sign.
Also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUJFNpPVtbE
why the hell they didn't show that demo on stage is beyond me, fears of a spaceworld repeat be damned.
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Pinching and zooming is about it. Those motions are more difficult with only 1 finger on the touch pad (but still totally possible with the analog sticks)
But yeah, single touch is not going to be as big a hassle as people are making it out to be. Overall this has a lot of potential.
A LOT more potential than the Wii, with what we've seen at least. I dunno why people say it looks terrible. It's a flat panel, what the hell do you want from it?
The controller has a headphone port? That's super convenient.
Yea, judging from the systems specs it's actually slightly more powerful than the 360.
I think it's going to be a lot easier for developers to find good things to put on the screen, compared to finding ways of shoehorning touch controls in. When playing games I often think of how another screen would help, but less often how motion would help.
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Have they said if this is doing wireless video, or processing on the WiiU pad itself?
It's telling that Nintendo didn't show any first party stuff at all, even though they knew about the tech the longest. They desperately want to reel in the third parties, and judging by EA's excitement, they've succeeded in this department more than with the Wii.
No...No that's way too stupid to be true
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That first part is unfounded. It's wireless video.
I think it would suck to be the case, but it would fit with the 'U' part he was talking about at the start ("Wii" is about We/Group, 'U' is about You/one person). Additionally, there'd be a lot of extra technical hurdles to do multiples - since the video is streamed it'd have to render/broadcast the video to each controller, which would be one hell of a strain.
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That video sold me more on the WiiU than anything that was shown during the conference. Still a lot to learn about it (price, specs, etc), but the controller and screen look really nice.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/07/ibm-puts-watsons-brains-in-nintendo-wii-u/
There's the article proper on the Watson brain going into the Wii-U.
How do you abbreviate that, anyway... WU?
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goddamn nintendo, why wasn't this featured....
By limiting it to one tablet they're more guaranteed to end up with graphics that will look significantly better than 360/PS3 and that way be able to draw in more graphic obsessed people.
It might still be up in the air though as I got the feeling that this entire reveal was a bit too early and kinda forced by the shareholders because of all the Cafe leaks so they might very well leave the number of tablets to the developers - letting them decide if they want to go with 4 tablets and less graphics or 1 tablet and more graphics.
They might also go with another compromise and allow downloaded games that will probably anyway be less graphically impressive use 4 tablets for poker games and other concepts that'd utilize the four tablets at once while leaving retail games with just one tablet and a more "next-gen" experience graphically speaking.
they haven't released any specs.
we do know though that the P7 processor is crazy powerful and blows the 360 and ps3 clean out of the water
You're right, I was confusing the rumored leaked specs.
It actually makes sense since the two examples of multilayer game play they showed only had one person using the pad controller and the others using the wiimotes.
It does seem like they would've shown at least one shot of two people with Wii-Us if the system supported more than one subscreen.
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Soon we will evolve a second set of eyes just to keep up.
It's backwards compatible with the Wii games.
http://www.destructoid.com/voice-actor-confirms-north-american-release-for-xenoblade-200120.phtml