DragkoniasThat Guy Who Does StuffYou Know, There. Registered Userregular
I don't see why people are surprised, especially with how hard EA has been pushing Origin. I wouldn't be surprised if they do this for every EA title released so on.
I don't see why people are surprised, especially with how hard EA has been pushing Origin. I wouldn't be surprised if they do this for every EA title released so on.
It's more the gamestop thing that's out there. Not being on steam was kinda expected
Sign a 3 year contract and you get an iPhone 4 for "free"... at least here in Canada.
Ahhh, I was wondering how they were going to deal with all the iPhone 4's they might have floating around, considering the rumour is that the next generation is due out this fall. "Giving them away" to entice customers into a 3 years plan just before the "iPhone 5" or "4GS" or whatever the hell they call it comes out puts them nicely into the update loop. Do they spring for a new generation phone, or suck it up and wait up to 36 months for their next hardware discount?
I do love my 3GS, and as nice as the 4 is, I have a bit over a year left in my contract, and might move to a new provider when it finishes, so it's all academic to me. I'll be in on the 5GS or 6 or whatever they're calling the thing they'll surgically implant into my head at that point.
Edit: I'm a huge whore for Steam, and EA's pushing of Origin isn't impressing me so far.
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First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKER!
Granted it's a dick move by EA, I would end up getting BF3. Not from Origin or Impulse, because I've only heard bad things about Origin. Mayhaps off D2D.
I'm waiting for Activision to try and turn Battle.net into their own Origins.
Shocked they've resisted the temptation, but Blizzard probably has a lot of clout in that regard.
I would think, or hope I guess, that Blizzard had the foresight to make sure the Battle.net brand remained theirs. I've said it before and I'll say it again; I think the only thing Blizzard "lost" was their say on how much they have to figure out to monetize. What they monetize I think is up to them still.
Activision is attempting to strong arm the ModernWarfare3.com domain.
Not really. The registrant fell into "Bad Faith" once they directed the domain name to B3.
It is different in that Activision doesn't usually go after domain names but it was the registrant who was dumb and pointed it to a competitor.
Is "bad faith" an actual legal precedent about website squatting? That actually kinda comforts me, even though I really enjoy this specific scenario. Good while it lasted I guess.
Activision is attempting to strong arm the ModernWarfare3.com domain.
Not really. The registrant fell into "Bad Faith" once they directed the domain name to B3.
It is different in that Activision doesn't usually go after domain names but it was the registrant who was dumb and pointed it to a competitor.
Is "bad faith" an actual legal precedent about website squatting? That actually kinda comforts me, even though I really enjoy this specific scenario. Good while it lasted I guess.
Yup. I'm on my phone or I'd link to it but search UDRP.
Basically to win arbitration Activision has to prove the domain name includes the trademark, the registrant doesn't have rights to the domain name, and they registered it in bad faith.
Forwarding it to an EA site means EA is/was getting traffic/money off of an Activision trademark which is bad faith.
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Well yeah, it seems very damn obvious in this case. It's too bad a more clever troll didn't get ahold of it. Like the guy who did the "I can't prove that Glenn Beck didn't rape and murder an 8 year old in 1990," or however that went. It's really funny how very specific wording can go in your favor in this sorta thing.
I'm not going to buy BF3 from Origin or Impulse, because it's just such a bad way to push their own store. They want us to buy from them, they should put it at a discount on their store. I've used the EA store before, and I've struggled with an EA account for a couple of games, and it's always just been such a hassle it's left a bad taste on the game I was trying to play.
Besides, they want to turn BF into the CoD killer? Refusing to let the biggest online store stock it is an arse-backwards way to go about it.
I've only used EA's store once, and that was to buy Spore (who other story there). Never again. I probably won't get BF3 ever because it's not on Steam, and these days I only buy from Steam and GOG.
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HenroidMexican kicked from Immigration ThreadCentrism is Racism :3Registered Userregular
I'm not going to buy BF3 from Origin or Impulse, because it's just such a bad way to push their own store. They want us to buy from them, they should put it at a discount on their store. I've used the EA store before, and I've struggled with an EA account for a couple of games, and it's always just been such a hassle it's left a bad taste on the game I was trying to play.
Besides, they want to turn BF into the CoD killer? Refusing to let the biggest online store stock it is an arse-backwards way to go about it.
Aren't they changing the way the EA Store / Origin functions though? And I mean, it's not like the EA Store was some big thing they pushed on the common consumer. Folks like us, yeah, we know about it and its current functionality.
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Ah okay, when you put it like that the statement makes sense. Even though I disagree with it anyone. But what can I say, we live in a day and age where people are seeking the "perfect" DRM. Fuck my life. Fuck all our lives.
Shitty in that it doesn't stop piracy and can stop games from working (like their offline mode being broken for years). As for the "perfect" DRM, GoG has it down pretty good.
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HenroidMexican kicked from Immigration ThreadCentrism is Racism :3Registered Userregular
Well nothing will stop piracy. And I hate to revisit an old, old, old argument, but I've never had problems with the offline mode myself.
They mainly care about stopping the piracy in the first few days the game is out because that is when they sell most of their shit.
The fact most of a game's sales come from the first few days probably isn't very healthy in that it prevents from from making money off of a single title for years like Nintendo and encourages constant sequels.
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Epic Games' European boss Mike Gamble has blamed the recent spate of high-profile triple-A game developer closures on "stupid acquisitions" made by publishers.
Gamble highlighted Disney Interactive's purchase of Pure and Split/Second developer Black Rock, which recently closed down, as an example.
"It's happened because of stupid acquisitions," he told Eurogamer at Epic Games' recent Unreal Engine University day in London.
"This is a personal view. In my person opinion, yeah, there have been acquisitions by publishers of developers they really had no right – well, they had a right because they had the money - but what was the point of a well-known children's IP holder buying a hardcore racing studio? It doesn't make sense."
Analysts suggested last week the closure of Black Rock had more to do with owner Disney's desire to get out of console game development than any deficiencies at the Brighton-based studio.
Disney's decision followed Activision's shuttering of Blur and Project Gotham Racing developer Bizarre Creations after it failed to find a buyer.
"A lot of the pain we've had in the last 18 months has been down to the economics of games development, which has changed," Gamble continued.
"Big publishers have had to pull back in money wise and the casualties of that are the studios that haven't performed for them because the industry has changed."
A number of small developers have formed from the ashes of both Bizarre and Black Rock.
Bizarre has spawned a handful of studios, including Hogrocket and Lucid Games.
Black Rock's death has led to the creation of three studios so far: Roundcube Entertainment, lead by Split/Second director Nick Baynes; ShortRound Games, formed by a quartet of previous Black Rock department directors; and BossAlien, fronted by Pure director Jason Avent.
"It is sad," Gamble, who this week met with a number of start-ups to discuss the merits of Unreal Engine for game development, commented.
"It's sad in a sense, but it's fantastic in a whole other way. Of course, a percentage of those people have left the industry. But most of them haven't. They're still in the industry. They're not just doing other cool stuff.
"The games I'm seeing from indies and small developers are brilliant. I love it. Really interesting and creative. They're not ticking boxes for publishers that say, we've got this gap in the portfolio, and there's this demographic, so we need to create this.
"They're playing with concepts, with how things are controlled. It's very creative."
Overall, Gamble believes UK and European game development is in a healthy state.
But, "It's healthy in a very different way than it has been. We've had Bizarre go pop. We've had Black Rock go pop. There's been a lot of bad news.
"But the fallout from that has been that there's now a whole bunch of really interesting studios doing cool stuff. And they all have a really good shot at being successful. A lot of them are really focused on not becoming big studios.
"They're focused on, we want to stay 12 guys doing cool stuff, we know there's a route to market, we can self publish, and we know we can make enough money to continue to do the good stuff we want to do.
"There's a sea change in the European industry. People are not looking to create companies where they're going to buy Ferraris. They're looking to create companies where they're having a great time and making nice money, but really doing the cool stuff."
That needs more brown, more brown, MORE brown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh and need another reason to not like EA's Origin DD service?
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To be fair the only difference between that and the Steam terms are that you get 24 months more guaranteed entitlement if you go with EA.
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Brainiac 8Don't call me Shirley...Registered Userregular
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"I would ask you to go and look at some of your data, just to compare first party performance over the course of this lifecycle, because I think our first party performance in terms of quality bars and units per title this shift has been superior to our competition’s." - Xbox CFO Dennis Durkin
I was going to post that quote, but on a cursory check, I couldn't figure out what the guy being quoted actually does for Microsoft. I probably just missed it in the article, but he could very well be just some homeless bum who was wandering outside of MS HQ that they decided to interview.
What 1st party 360 games have been better than Uncharted, Infamous, and Little Big Planet series?
Microsoft wins on the Third Person Shooter front. FPS is kinda a wash.
Forza vs GT I'd probably give to Forza this gen.
God of War isn't as good as the 3rd party Bayonetta or Devil May Cry so that's out of the running... but does Microsoft have an action series?
What 1st party 360 games have been better than Uncharted, Infamous, and Little Big Planet series?
Microsoft wins on the Third Person Shooter front. FPS is kinda a wash.
Forza vs GT I'd probably give to Forza this gen.
God of War isn't as good as the 3rd party Bayonetta or Devil May Cry so that's out of the running... but does Microsoft have an action series?
Fable is more or less an action series, I guess. God of War 3 was a step down from 2, but no where near Fable's quality plummet there. I also personally prefer Uncharted to Gears of War, but eh opinions.
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Shocked they've resisted the temptation, but Blizzard probably has a lot of clout in that regard.
Ahhh, I was wondering how they were going to deal with all the iPhone 4's they might have floating around, considering the rumour is that the next generation is due out this fall. "Giving them away" to entice customers into a 3 years plan just before the "iPhone 5" or "4GS" or whatever the hell they call it comes out puts them nicely into the update loop. Do they spring for a new generation phone, or suck it up and wait up to 36 months for their next hardware discount?
I do love my 3GS, and as nice as the 4 is, I have a bit over a year left in my contract, and might move to a new provider when it finishes, so it's all academic to me. I'll be in on the 5GS or 6 or whatever they're calling the thing they'll surgically implant into my head at that point.
Edit: I'm a huge whore for Steam, and EA's pushing of Origin isn't impressing me so far.
I'm not buying it. I would if EA wasn't pulling this shit.
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Not really. The registrant fell into "Bad Faith" once they directed the domain name to B3.
It is different in that Activision doesn't usually go after domain names but it was the registrant who was dumb and pointed it to a competitor.
Is "bad faith" an actual legal precedent about website squatting? That actually kinda comforts me, even though I really enjoy this specific scenario. Good while it lasted I guess.
Yup. I'm on my phone or I'd link to it but search UDRP.
Basically to win arbitration Activision has to prove the domain name includes the trademark, the registrant doesn't have rights to the domain name, and they registered it in bad faith.
Forwarding it to an EA site means EA is/was getting traffic/money off of an Activision trademark which is bad faith.
Besides, they want to turn BF into the CoD killer? Refusing to let the biggest online store stock it is an arse-backwards way to go about it.
Aren't they changing the way the EA Store / Origin functions though? And I mean, it's not like the EA Store was some big thing they pushed on the common consumer. Folks like us, yeah, we know about it and its current functionality.
Ah okay, when you put it like that the statement makes sense. Even though I disagree with it anyone. But what can I say, we live in a day and age where people are seeking the "perfect" DRM. Fuck my life. Fuck all our lives.
The fact most of a game's sales come from the first few days probably isn't very healthy in that it prevents from from making money off of a single title for years like Nintendo and encourages constant sequels.
This isn't actually competition for Steam though.
Origin is kind of a shit program in terms of functionality, and it's solely for EA games.
That would be like saying Battle.net is in competition with Steam.
Let the retarded and vague hype for a next generation that we don't know when it will occur begin!
I mean, I'm just assuming they were Toy Story quality graphics. The games were far too blurry and jaggy to be able to notice.
That was because your eyes weren't HD compatible yet.
Hm, the next gen will look like Avatar?
I can dig that.
Oh and need another reason to not like EA's Origin DD service?
To be fair the only difference between that and the Steam terms are that you get 24 months more guaranteed entitlement if you go with EA.
http://www.industrygamers.com/news/xbox-360-first-party-has-been-superior-to-ps3-wii-says-microsoft/
Um...really?
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Microsoft wins on the Third Person Shooter front. FPS is kinda a wash.
Forza vs GT I'd probably give to Forza this gen.
God of War isn't as good as the 3rd party Bayonetta or Devil May Cry so that's out of the running... but does Microsoft have an action series?
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