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picking a (used) car

ihmmyihmmy Registered User regular
edited June 2011 in Help / Advice Forum
So I'm torn between 2 vehicles that are the same price, and I can't decide which is "better". I like how both handles, though the pedals are a touch 'funny' feeling to me in one (different tilt than my current car)

Car 1: 2007 VW rabbit, in town, 55k km, lots of shinies on it (sunroof, keyless trunk release, keyless locks, heated seats (I live in the frozen north so this is a definite bonus), cruise control, rear window defogger, etc.)

Car 2: 2009 Honda Fit, 1.5 hour drive to get it (plus time to test drive, get home, etc, hard to find time for this), 20k km, none of the above goodies but it also has remote start, which again is a definite bonus in the frozen north.

The dealers are asking the same price for each vehicle, though I can probably bargain the rabbit down a little bit as the front headlights are quite foggy and need some work

I'm car-dumb, so something that's lower maintenance is a definite bonus. My mom's bf has a Fit so we'd have matching cars (different colours). I mostly drive in-city (lots on freeways though) with about 5 highway trips a year. I need something like a hatchback where I have storage potential, but still in a fairly small car.

So... thoughts? Opinions?

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  • RikushixRikushix VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I have a (new) 2011 Fit Sport and while it might be very, very slightly different from a 2009 Fit, I can still assuredly tell you that the Fit, for its size, has just unreal volume. It's unbelievable what you can fit in there. The seats could not be easier to fold up or down. For instance:
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    Again, I bought new, so YMMV (haha) but I have zero complaints. It's a quick car that practically sips gas with a decent 4-litre engine and fits a metric fucktonne in the rear. If that's what you're looking for then go for it.

    On the flipside, you have the Rabbit. I've always had a soft spot for Volkswagen but I've never driven a Rabbit. If it's anything like the Golf I'm sure you'll have a solid car on your hands. And since you're buying used...make sure you scope out the available infrastructure for maintenance for each car. My gut says that you might have a slightly easier time getting parts and maintenance for a VW over a Honda. Maybe. I'm probably wrong.

    My last car was a great 1997 Subaru (<3) and back in 2008 I had to replace a simple enclosure for the driver's side door light - the part had to be sent special order from Toronto. Cripes. That's a rather extreme example but you get the idea.

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  • msuitepyonmsuitepyon Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Remote starters are fairly easy to have added on after-the-fact; given the two choices, I'd have the one with the features (it doesn't sway me one bit that I'm a huge VW fan). I love my heated seats in my Jetta and I'm all the way down south--I imagine having a remote start added to that on a cold morning would make the day that much nicer.

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  • Skoal CatSkoal Cat Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    My sister had nothing but repair problems with her Jetta and swears she will never buy another German car again for how overly engineered they are.

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  • mightyjongyomightyjongyo Sour Crrm East Bay, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Rikushix wrote: »
    My gut says that you might have a slightly easier time getting parts and maintenance for a VW over a Honda. Maybe. I'm probably wrong.

    i have no idea what frozen north entails, but if you're in the US, it can't be that hard to find somewhere that services hondas. I could also be wrong. Try using the honda website to find a service in your area.

    Personally I would go for the newer car, but two years isn't that much of a difference so that probably doesn't matter here. Have you looked at the city and highway mpg ratings for those cars in those years? That might help if fuel economy is something you're concerned about.

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  • RikushixRikushix VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Rikushix wrote: »
    My gut says that you might have a slightly easier time getting parts and maintenance for a VW over a Honda. Maybe. I'm probably wrong.

    i have no idea what frozen north entails, but if you're in the US, it can't be that hard to find somewhere that services hondas. I could also be wrong. Try using the honda website to find a service in your area.

    Oh, probably not, it's just a possibility depending on how rural he is. Northern Ontario, for example? It'd be tough in some towns to find a dedicated Honda parts dealer and distributor. Not impossible at all, but tough.

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  • MushroomStickMushroomStick Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    My gut would suggest that the Honda is the more reliable of the two and would last you much longer, but would be a tad boring to drive. I'm guessing the VW would require more maintenance and would last as long, even if it wasn't older with more miles. On the other hand, the VW is most assuredly going to have a more luxurious interior and be more fun to drive, even if only marginally.

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  • kaliyamakaliyama Left to find less-moderated fora Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Rikushix wrote: »
    I have a (new) 2011 Fit Sport and while it might be very, very slightly different from a 2009 Fit, I can still assuredly tell you that the Fit, for its size, has just unreal volume. It's unbelievable what you can fit in there. The seats could not be easier to fold up or down. For instance:
    9_27_10_08_11_37_46.jpg

    Again, I bought new, so YMMV (haha) but I have zero complaints. It's a quick car that practically sips gas with a decent 4-litre engine and fits a metric fucktonne in the rear. If that's what you're looking for then go for it.

    On the flipside, you have the Rabbit. I've always had a soft spot for Volkswagen but I've never driven a Rabbit. If it's anything like the Golf I'm sure you'll have a solid car on your hands. And since you're buying used...make sure you scope out the available infrastructure for maintenance for each car. My gut says that you might have a slightly easier time getting parts and maintenance for a VW over a Honda. Maybe. I'm probably wrong.

    My last car was a great 1997 Subaru (<3) and back in 2008 I had to replace a simple enclosure for the driver's side door light - the part had to be sent special order from Toronto. Cripes. That's a rather extreme example but you get the idea.

    Holy shit, that's amazing! German reliability is largely a myth these days, i'm afraid. If your disposable income isnt' that tight there's an argument for getting the VW, but if you're buying used cars i'm guessing that isn't the case, so go for the fit.

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  • ihmmyihmmy Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I'm in SK. I should note that the VW has AC, but the Fit does not have it listed (which considering I hate being too hot and our summers always get a few weeks of 30C ish weather, that might not be so fun

    As far as I can tell, the Rabbit is the Golf, just with a different name for a few years

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  • CptKemzikCptKemzik Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    If the rabbit (golf) is the same price as the fit, but can be haggled a little lower, and comes with all those features I would probably lean towards the VW.

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  • SliderSlider Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    My vote is for the Fit for many reasons, but I also know that repairs for the VW will be more expensive.

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  • kaliyamakaliyama Left to find less-moderated fora Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    ihmmy wrote: »
    I'm in SK. I should note that the VW has AC, but the Fit does not have it listed (which considering I hate being too hot and our summers always get a few weeks of 30C ish weather, that might not be so fun

    As far as I can tell, the Rabbit is the Golf, just with a different name for a few years

    They make cars without air conditioning?

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  • MushroomStickMushroomStick Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Ok, the air conditioner thing would be deal breaker for me. I had to look it up, but air conditioning was not a standard feature for 2009 Fits in canada.

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    What kind of company makes and sells a car in two thousand and nine without air conditioning? jesus christ.
    Skoal Cat wrote: »
    My sister had nothing but repair problems with her Jetta and swears she will never buy another German car again for how overly engineered they are.

    This is pretty anecdotal as I've heard nothing but good things about Volkswagen's for my entire life.

    You can get lemons from any car manufacturer.

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  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    What kind of company makes and sells a car in two thousand and nine without air conditioning? jesus christ.

    We are from Australia, Dhalphir. 40 degrees Celcius is quite common here, in Canada it would be a national emergency...

    As good as the Honda Fit(Jazz) is, the Mk5 Golf (Rabbit) is better. If you can, get a diesel with a manual gearbox.

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  • BlindZenDriverBlindZenDriver Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Sure they do - here in Europe I'm willing to bet not having AC is more common than having AC. Same thing with houses only AC is actually rare.

    It all depends on climate and to some extend being green (cooling air uses a lot of energy).

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  • MushroomStickMushroomStick Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    What kind of company makes and sells a car in two thousand and nine without air conditioning? jesus christ.
    Skoal Cat wrote: »
    My sister had nothing but repair problems with her Jetta and swears she will never buy another German car again for how overly engineered they are.

    This is pretty anecdotal as I've heard nothing but good things about Volkswagen's for my entire life.

    You can get lemons from any car manufacturer.

    I suspect that sometimes, some parts of the world just don't have mechanics that know their way around the specific brands that are foreign and then the locals misinterpret the cars as unreliable.

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  • Jimmy KingJimmy King Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    kaliyama wrote: »
    ihmmy wrote: »
    I'm in SK. I should note that the VW has AC, but the Fit does not have it listed (which considering I hate being too hot and our summers always get a few weeks of 30C ish weather, that might not be so fun

    As far as I can tell, the Rabbit is the Golf, just with a different name for a few years

    They make cars without air conditioning?

    Yep, I just bought a new used mazda 3 a few weeks ago. Was about to have carmax ship one in from another carmax and at the last minute the salesman looked at the specs and discovered that the 2008 mazda 3 I was about to get had no ac. The base mazda 3i sport does not come with ac standard. Craziness. Not something I would have ever thought to check on in a modern car, but apparently they do still make some that don't come with ac.

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  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Id probably go with the Fit, purely from expected cost of ownership over the next 3-5 years. You may get hit with depreciation more with the Fit initially, but the timing belt will likely need to get replaced on the VW in that time period (interval will vary by motor, and while you're in there you might be convinced to have the water pump replaced). The Fit has a timing chain; while I've heard that timing chains in autos don't need replacement, in other vehicles that use chains they need to be maintained/adjusted and changed at times.

    if you got the Fit you'd still have some manufacturer warranty right?

    Downside is you don't get the creature comforts you got on the VW (not important to me personally, but can you not get a seat warmer that plugs into the lighter/power plug?). No A/C would be a deal breaker for me, but I live somewhere where the lows have been 80F and highs in the triple digits since May, not in the frozen north.

    Other problem is investing 3+ hours round trip to get it means the deal can be a bit tougher. I know if I had already invested 2+ hours before even talking about price that would put some pressure on me to make a deal and Im probably less inclined to walk away from a price that's a bit too high.

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  • SliderSlider Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    My vehicles have AC, but I never use it. Air conditioning for me is rolling down the window.

    Keep in mind that the resale value for a vehicle without AC will be much lower.

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