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Unit above mine on fire?

Bwah?Bwah? Registered User regular
edited July 2011 in Help / Advice Forum
I realize this isn't a normally asked question, but it's also not a normal circumstance.

The ceiling in my living room has been getting quite hot over the past hour or two. It's an area of about 8x10 and the ceiling warm/semi-hot to the touch. Areas outside this mentioned space are normal/cool. I've tried going upstairs to knock on their door- but no one answered..I don't even think anyone lives there. I also may have climbed on their balcony to try and look through the slider, but the blinds were closed.

After all this I called the police who said not to call unless there was a legitimate fire, and to try my apartment complex's managers. The calls to the "emergency maintenance" numbers for my apartment yielded no response.

So. Does anyone have any recommendations or opinions? Sure I could go to sleep...but I could also die in a fire?

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    JebusUDJebusUD Adventure! Candy IslandRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I dunno. Go outside and chill for a bit maybe. It will probably become apparent if there is a fire soon enough.

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    and I wonder about my neighbors even though I don't have them
    but they're listening to every word I say
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    ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited July 2011
    So you called the police saying "I think there might be a fire because my ceiling is hot and getting hotter" and they said "don't call us till you're on fire"?

    ...huh?

    Call the fire department and see what they say.

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    And it seems like all is dying, and would leave the world to mourn
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    Bwah?Bwah? Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    ceres wrote: »
    So you called the police saying "I think there might be a fire because my ceiling is hot and getting hotter" and they said "don't call us till you're on fire"?

    ...huh?

    Call the fire department and see what they say.

    That's correct. I called the fire department but no one picked up. I'd be hard pressed to call 911 as to be wrong it'd be quite expensive and embarrassing.

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    RaneadosRaneados police apologist you shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Bwah? wrote: »
    ceres wrote: »
    So you called the police saying "I think there might be a fire because my ceiling is hot and getting hotter" and they said "don't call us till you're on fire"?

    ...huh?

    Call the fire department and see what they say.

    That's correct. I called the fire department but no one picked up. I'd be hard pressed to call 911 as to be wrong it'd be quite expensive and embarrassing.

    no

    no

    call 911 and say "I think the apartment above me may be on fire. I am not sure, but I am worried that my ceiling is getting increasingly hot to the touch"

    they will send someone, they will not BILL you if there's no actual fire, nor will you be arrested, yelled at, or anything of the like, you're making a call based on good faith

    worst that will happen is they'll come to your place and say "no it wasn't, but thanks for paying attention to your surroundings, we wish more people did"

    CALL 911

    TELL THEM THE APARTMENT ABOVE YOU MIGHT BE ON FIRE

    edit: did you call the non-emergency number? Call 911, if the dispatcher tells you not to call until you actually see a fucking fire, you get his goddamn name and you report his fucking ass, anyone you've talked to should have sent over a unit in the area to check it out, at least knock on the door and make a surrounding check, try hard to get that dude's name and REPORT HIM

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    spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Motherfucking call 911. I work for a fire dept, and if yours is anything like mine, they won't be upset. You won't get billed.

    CALL 911 OR YOU MIGHT DIAF.

    Why aren't you calling? Read the previous post if you're not sure what to say.

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    ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited July 2011
    What Rane said.

    I am just mystified that the person you spoke with did not tell you to call 911 if you think there could be a fire.

    Seriously, I don't get it.

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    MushroomStickMushroomStick Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    If I had called the non-emergency number to the police department here with a similar question, I would've been transferred to 911 before I got a complete sentence out.

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    IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited July 2011
    How did you come to know that your ceiling was hot? I don't regularly touch my ceiling. Is there even a hint of the smell of smoke?

    I'm not saying don't immediately call the fire department, I'm just curious. And they wont charge you. You already pay for the fire department, just call them.

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    Pure DinPure Din Boston-areaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    The firedepartment isn't going to charge you for a false alarm.

    Trust me, my bf and I once called 911 because the carbon monoxide detector in his apartment went off. After sending over 2 engines with sirens at 2 in the morning and a dozen guys busting into the basement to search for gas leaks, they figured out that the problem was just that the alarm was broken. They laughed at us, but we didn't get in trouble.

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    RaneadosRaneados police apologist you shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    my apartment complex is the same way, by the way, nobody answers the emergency maintenance line after 8 pm, and it's impossible to contact anyone in the office after it closes, as they don't give out their home info

    I have called half a dozen times over the time I've lived here for things ranging from people trying to break into a car to a fire ALARM going off for more than 30 minutes

    if the dispatcher you get ahold of gives you lip, or trouble, or gets an attitude, get their name and report them, i believe ALL 911 calls are recorded, and getting them in trouble for being useless at their jobs is extremely easy if they're being useless at their jobs

    seriously cops wish people would report more stuff, ESPECIALLY suspicious activity and possible danger, rather than waiting for something to actually get stolen/set on fire before anyone gives them a ring

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    Bwah?Bwah? Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Update to answer a couple questions.

    I knew the ceiling was hot because I could feel an unusual amount of heat in that area.


    Based off advice in these posts I called 911 and described the situation and asked for advice. They are sending someone from the fire department to come check it out. I was very thankful and requested they didn't send the cavalry of firetrucks and such. I will update further based on their findings.


    Thanks for everyone's input thus far. To me I've been taught never to call 911 unless absolutely necessary, glad I could get different perspectives. Thanks again everyone.

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    MushroomStickMushroomStick Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Don't be surprised if its just policy to send a firetruck, and ambulance, and a police car out. That's the way it is by me and all the surrounding towns that I'm aware of.

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    MechMantisMechMantis Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    As a volunteer firefighter with a smattering of other training, just fucking call 911 if you think there is a fire.

    Even think! This is what we do! We investigate and stamp shit out! It's a ton easier if we catch a fire before it's consumed half a building!

    Also, even if you've extinguished a kitchen fire, call the fire department, they'll send someone to investigate to make sure it's dead, and make sure there weren't any other fuel sources etc.

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    KarrmerKarrmer Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    For the record, like 99.9% of the time you call the "non emergency" line you're calling the exact same place that you would if you called 911. I work for one of the biggest agencies in the country and often get people calling 9-1-1 for ridiculous things that aren't emergencies, tell them to call the non-emergency line, and then just get them on the phone again a minute later.

    (the reason for the above is because if any 9-1-1 calls come in while I'm on the line with him on a non-emergency call there are warnings that pop up so I can put the guy on hold)

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    Bwah?Bwah? Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    To update, if anyone was wondering..

    The fire department did come in a fire truck with several fireman in full suit. They used a device called a "tick?" "tic?" which could read heat signatures- it looked similar to an X-Ray. The device revealed a series of what water/heating pipes above the ceiling, all red hot. Apparently something triggered the heat to be turned on to max levels. Had I lived in my current apartment during winter months I would have realized this, however I haven't been here too long and I've never encountered such a heating system.

    Eventually the fire department got maintenance out to inspect the floor above mine & the heating system. Everything checked out and they ended up leaving (after several apologies and thank yous from myself). Still no word on why the heat turned on.



    Thanks again for everyone's input.

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    MushroomStickMushroomStick Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Sounds like one of the maintenance guys turned a valve somewhere the wrong way and turned on the radiators. Your electric bill woulda sucked hard if the AC would've had to fight that all summer.

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    MechMantisMechMantis Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Imagine if you hadn't called, and it was stuck on full blast for quite some time. There's a possibility something could have given and ignited.

    Now you have a major fire.

    If you think something's a fire hazard, there's probably a good chance it is one, and call at the very least maintenance about it.

    If it seems to be getting worse, take no chances.

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    tardcoretardcore Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I'm gonna go ahead and say that it was smart to call the fire department on this one.

    I mean, you hear about apartment fires every now and then on the news and if it wasn't for people like you, they could very well happen more often.

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