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Where do I want to live?

snorepezsnorepez Registered User regular
edited July 2011 in Help / Advice Forum
I'm in a transition stage in my life right now, but I need to find a permanent place. As far as in which state I want to live, I'm not entirely sure, but as far as what I prefer that place to have is: cold weather, "big city," public transportation (ex. subway), and affordable (~$700) one bedroom apartments. I figure that's a decent net to cast as far as preferences go.

Since the job market isn't too strong right now, I'll list my general work experiences and education, in case that could affect my choices of states: Bachelor's degree in Education, 2 years teaching high school English, 3 months teaching English abroad.

Any suggestions are appreciated. And if I was too broad, I can elaborate with specifics. Thank you!

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  • Skoal CatSkoal Cat Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Chicago? I mean, what do you consider "big city" and how shitty of an area are you willing to live for that rent? I don't know what rent is like in Chicago, but there are some small and affordable neighborhoods for sure.

    edit: Chicago is also amazing.

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  • snorepezsnorepez Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Skoal Cat wrote: »
    Chicago? I mean, what do you consider "big city" and how shitty of an area are you willing to live for that rent? I don't know what rent is like in Chicago, but there are some small and affordable neighborhoods for sure.

    edit: Chicago is also amazing.

    Chicago is a good example of a "big city" to me. I've considered moving there, because as you said, it's supposedly amazing and meets most of my preferences (aside from the rent, which I don't know about there). And as far as shitty areas go...I just prefer not to be in known neighborhoods where gangs and drug deals happen. Do you know of any specific small and affordable neighborhoods in Chicago that you can recommend?

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  • Death Cab For AlbieDeath Cab For Albie Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    700 dollars will not get you far at all in Chicago as far as a 1 bedroom goes. You can probably find a studio at around that price in the Lincoln Park (Wrigleyville) area. It's a great place to live if you are in your 20's.

    Also, not to totally rain on the Chicago parade, because it is an amazing city, but the teaching market is rough there. A couple friends who live there are teachers, and they work part time jobs with the occasional substitute teaching job. I'd try to have a job lined up first.

    You might wanna check out Minneapolis, cool city, not as expensive as Chicago (though not quite as "Big City" as Chicago)

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Yeah, the job prospects are not super great here, but good those moving in, the housing market took a pretty big hit. So cheap(ish) housing shouldn't be a problem. Would certainly try to get something lined up first before coming here, unless you have some good savings or don't mind doing retail or something until you find a career gig.

    Twin Cities isn't a bad idea either, same with Madison or Milwaukee. Obviously smaller than Chicago but cheaper and can get here fairly easily by car or train.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    "~$700," "big city," and "cold" are not tremendously compatible criteria. Most of the big cities that are cold are going to have way higher rent than that for a studio/one bedroom; most of the places with lower rent than that for a studio/one bedroom aren't going to be cold.

    You could move to the suburbs of a big, cold city for that, but you will probably need a car in that case, which would kill your "good public transit."

    And just because housing prices are dropping does not mean that rents are dropping; all of those people trying to unload their houses have to live somewhere.

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  • ElinElin Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Denver? I'd assume that you can find rent in your price range as my brother in law paid rent working at U-haul with some student loan help. And there's snow there, you know, mountains and such.

    I can't say much about the market for teachers, my MiL is an elementary school teacher and she got a job in Westminster (suburbish of Denver) pretty quick 2 years back or so.

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  • Skoal CatSkoal Cat Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I was just in Madison and really, really liked it. However, I'm not sure I'd move to WI as a teacher given everything going on.

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  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    What else are you into? That might help.

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  • bkrobinbkrobin Roseburg, ORRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Portland. It's not a HUGE city, but there is public transportation, you can get by on $700/month, and it's cold and rainy the majority of the year (their high is 72 today). In addition, there are both indoor and outdoor things to do, pretty much everyone I've met there is super nice, they have a few malls for shopping, but also a lot of independent stores so you get the best of everything!

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    bkrobin wrote: »
    Portland. It's not a HUGE city, but there is public transportation, you can get by on $700/month, and it's cold and rainy the majority of the year (their high is 72 today). In addition, there are both indoor and outdoor things to do, pretty much everyone I've met there is super nice, they have a few malls for shopping, but also a lot of independent stores so you get the best of everything!
    I assume by "cold," the OP didn't mean "incredibly mild." Portland isn't "cold," it's "kind of cool."

    What, exactly, do you mean, OP? I assumed you meant "frequent snowfall during the fall/winter/spring."

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  • Skoal CatSkoal Cat Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Thanatos is going to recommend Buffalo.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Skoal Cat wrote: »
    Thanatos is going to recommend Buffalo.
    No, but only because I don't consider it (or Syracuse, or Rochester) to be a "big city."

    Otherwise, yeah, totally.

    What are rental prices like in Columbus and Cleveland? Those might work.

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Skoal Cat wrote: »
    Thanatos is going to recommend Buffalo.

    I thought OP wanted a big city? 14,000 doesn't seem very big to me. :lol:

    College towns might be tough since lots of recent eduction graduates looking for jobs? You do have the extra experience, though. How tied are you to education field?

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I was going to say Chicago at first, but yeah, 700 dollars is nothing to work with in a city like Chicago.

    I mean, you could probably get it done, but it won't be very comfortable.

    Just depends on how cold you need it to be.

    I'm betting in the Carolinas you could find some pretty solid one bedrooms for that price... it's just hotter there, and there's no public transit.

    You have three criteria and the only seem completely opposed to each other.

    If you were a teacher in Chicago would you really be only able to afford a 700 dollar rent and no car payment at all? Your salary should change, right?

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  • wonderpugwonderpug Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Albuquerque is a fun city, pretty cheap to live in, and it does get cold (really). No snow, though, except in the mountains.

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  • EWomEWom Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Anchorage, Alaska.

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  • snorepezsnorepez Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Well, "cold" to me is anything below 50degrees; this is regardless of the type or lack of precipitation. I'm not expecting the state to be below 50 year-round, obviously, but during the autumn/fall/winter is what I'm looking at. Or, to be perfectly frank, we could toss the "cold" criteria, as I grew up in Arizona and, well, almost anywhere is "colder" than there, in my opinion.

    What I'm mostly concerned about is: $rent and public transportation (subway, bus, rails). Plus,"city activities" (I use Brooklyn/Bronx/Buenos Aires as barometers for this criteria, because those are really the only "big cities" I've either lived in or visited that I enjoyed the constant number of activities to do, and I don't consider mountainbiking to be one of those activities, for example).

    Thanks for the suggestions so far.

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  • snorepezsnorepez Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Jasconius wrote: »
    If you were a teacher in Chicago would you really be only able to afford a 700 dollar rent and no car payment at all? Your salary should change, right?

    Good point. I have enough savings to live between the $1k-$1.5k rent mark for at least 6 months, but I figured without knowing everyone's suggestions, I would leave that initial rent mark low. But as far as a change in salary is concerned, I probably wouldn't pass $33k given my background. And as a few people have already mentioned, the teaching game is pretty slim right now, so I figure I'll be doing tutoring or the like for a while until I can find a permanent career job.

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  • IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited July 2011
    For the price, You can rent some decent places in the raleigh/durham/chapel hill area (the triangle of NC) you would probably prefer it over Ashville (hippy town in the mountains of NC, which is a pretty small city. But public transportation is non existent. Its fairly safe and you can live cheaply if you want, so you might be able to offset the cost of a car with less rent, especially with roomates. It snows maybe an inch or two a year in the triangle, really minuscule, but we have a pretty lovely fall and its generally a sweatshirt weather off and on kind of winter. Unless we get a bullshit ice storm.

    Our education system is sorta imploding, so there's that.

    My only other experiences involve Baltimore and DC, I dont think you could live in DC with 700 rent, but I could be wrong. Baltimore is... well watch the Wire. Both cities have a ton of character and experience the full range of seasons.

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  • MonoxideMonoxide Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2011
    You can find one bedroom apartments or studios in Chicago for not much more than your asking price. ($800-$900 or so was what I saw for a few 1 bedroom places around Ukrainian Village when I was looking in the fall), but if you're making a move to a new city, you may want to consider a roommate.

    Chicago sounds like what you're looking for, but the job market for teachers is pretty awful. I have a lot of first hand experience working with educators in the city and the surrounding suburbs, and it's hard -- there's tons of competition, very few jobs, and not much guarantee that you'll keep a job much longer than a year if you do manage to get one.

    That said, it is an amazing city, and education reforms will be making sweeping changes to the landscape in CPS schools, city charters, and schools throughout the state. So things could get better, or...they could get worse.

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I think you should definitely consider a roommate.. with your financial condition and in the type of city you are interested in, it would behoove you to stockpile as much cash as you can and maintain your mobility in case a better more permanent job crops up elsewhere.

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  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I'd go NYC or Chicago, as you're basically looking to be a city person somewhere that's not the South.

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  • BagginsesBagginses __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2011
    This might help.

    Edit: for cities, Boston meets all criteria except price, which it fails miserably. Somerville or Roxbury might work, though. Detroit is cheap enough that you could probably buy a place next to a station outright, but it's Detroit.

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  • zucchinizucchini robothero pretty much amazingRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I was going to recommend Philadelphia until the above article was posted, and now I will continue to recommend Philadelphia.

    Depending on the area of the city/outlying area, you can find an apartment in the ~$700 range easily, but the closer to downtown you get you'll obviously be looking at more or finding a roommate.

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  • SilverEternitySilverEternity Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Jasconius wrote: »

    I'm betting in the Carolinas you could find some pretty solid one bedrooms for that price... it's just hotter there, and there's no public transit.

    You have three criteria and the only seem completely opposed to each other.

    If you were a teacher in Chicago would you really be only able to afford a 700 dollar rent and no car payment at all? Your salary should change, right?

    Although the cost of living in the Carolinas is low, they pay their teachers very poorly (by mid-western standards). When I graduated from college I got a number of job offers in the Carolinas but the starting rate was around 24,000-25,000 and the pay did not progress very quickly from those numbers.

    Also, to echo what other people are saying, it's a rough job market for teachers right now in mid-western states. I would make sure you check the job market in whatever area you plan to move to before making a final decision.

    Have you taught in an urban area before?

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  • DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Skoal Cat wrote: »
    Thanatos is going to recommend Buffalo.
    No, but only because I don't consider it (or Syracuse, or Rochester) to be a "big city."

    Otherwise, yeah, totally.

    What are rental prices like in Columbus and Cleveland? Those might work.

    Ooooh, while I wouldn't ever move there, Cincinnati is cold and a big city, but doesn't really have a good public transportation system. He could probably find an apartment for $700 easy though.

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  • EriosErios Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Could always defect to the maple leaf empire and go to Toronto.

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  • Skoal CatSkoal Cat Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I thought it had become harder to emigrate in recent years (without a much desired skill)

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