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Starcraft 2: Commendable Rage

kedinikkedinik Captain of IndustryRegistered User regular
edited July 2011 in Games and Technology
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The SC2 thread proudly presents!


1. The Weekly Forum Challenge - Organized by MNC Dover)[/center]
-What the hell is the Weekly Forum Challenge (WFC)?

The WFC is a new idea I came up with that will pit one forum member against everyone else in the forum. Basically, you apply to be in the WFC and when your name is called, you take on everyone else in the forum.

-Huh? Why would I want to do that?

Because it's fun, keeps the forum more interactive, and allows you to improve your game by playing a lot of different playstyles.

-OK, who do I play against?

Everyone. It doesn't matter if your Bronze or Master, these games are no ranks barred. Yeah, if you're a Bronze level player you'll probably get splattered, but you will be learning something and have a set of replays from which to study. You could use this opportunity to practice a single build and see how it fares against several other types of builds. Either way, it will be a good learning experience and fun!

-Sounds interesting....what are the rules?

If your name is called, you will take all invites from Sunday to Saturday that week. Opponents can challenge you via forum posts, PM's, or on B.Net. You must try your best to take on every challenge, so be prepared to spend a few hours on b.net during your week.

-I'm only a Bronze leaguer. I'll get squashed so I don't want to enter.

Hold on there a minute, I'm not done yet. Any WFC entrant can request a live-coach regardless of their rank. Yes, any rank. The coach may only give advice during play in ally chat to you and you cannot ask questions. The coach also cannot tell you what the enemy is doing or steer your build to screw over the enemy. Only tips like, watching your supply counts, build more structures, drone up, scout, expo, spend money, etc. The coach can be anyone the WFC wants and can change from game to game. You can talk with your coach before and after games to discuss strats, build orders, and the like.

-Awesome! I think I want to participate. How do I enter?

PM a message to me with "WFC" as the title and the following information:

-Forum name
-B.Net ID with 3 digit code
-Race played (please only use one to reduce headaches)
-Rank
-Do you want a coach?
-Timezone (easy conversions for us lazy Americans please)
-At least three different weeks you want to apply for with your most favorable choice first (example: 03/20-03/26, 03/27- 04/05, and 04/13-04/19)
-Your choice of how you want to play matches, either bo1 or bo3

-Great, I sent out the information and got accepted. Now what?

Now you have to openly accept challenges from the forum. Post the time or times you will make yourself available for matches. Other people can set-up appointments for matches or play however you choose. If you only want to accept appointments great, if not, you can do a first come, first pwned set-up.

-What maps do we play on?

For bo1's, the WFC player gets to choose the map. Sorry folks, that's the advantage of manning up and taking on all comers. For bo3's, the first game is on Shakura's Plateau with the loser choosing the next map from the official Blizzard Ladder pool. Yes this means the maps may change over time. We'll manage.

-What happens when my week is over?

You gather up all your replays, name them "WFC vs (insert enemy name), add them to gamereplays.org (info found in the OP), and then post EVERY SINGLE GAME into a single spoilered post. The thread creator will add your games into the OP and they'll stay there until the next person's turn is over.

-I had an emergency mid-week! What do I do?

No biggie, we all understand that real life stuff happens. Let everyone know and I'll do my best to find someone to fill in the spot. No problem at all.

-Anything else?

Glad you asked. I really think this can be fun, especially if we have some of our more charismatic people bring some light-hearted, jaw-jacking to the table. I'd also really like it if some of the lower ranked players step up and give this a go. In reality, it's no different then playing against PA people anyway, but now it will have more of a focus. You can have a target on your back which might change the way you play by adding or removing pressure.

ABOVE ALL, I just want everyone to have fun and play more SC2. :D

So, who's in?

Our sixteenth WFC player will be Dhal:

Battle.net name : Dhal or Dhalphir, depending on account.
Race - Terran
League - Diamond
coach - no thanks
bo3 format
timezone - GMT 8+ (12 hours ahead of EST/EDT)

Challenge our player by sending him a PM, post, or b.net message to set up times!

Replays of Stimtokolos, our last WFC, in action:
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2. Curvy Star League - Organized by Dhal

A recurring tournament organized and cast by and for the PA community. Compete or cast or merely look on impassively as your peers bludgeon each other's armies to death!
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Next tournament is Saturday 30th July at 8pm EST, http://challonge.com/tournament/signup/ugws6yrhb8

3. Replay(s) of the day! (7/8) - Organized by kedinik for now.

A noteworthy replay of the day donated by our forum-goers. Make sure to upload your replay submissions to gamereplays.org. And be a pal - mark your replay as ROTD material in your post.

CSL Lite Mothership Ruuuuuuuuuush

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    Fizban140Fizban140 Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2011
    But how I craft stars?
    The SC2 thread goes a million miles per hour and will leave you in the dust if you aren't prepared. All things are open to discussion here from build orders, practice partners, race match-ups, tournament talk, and general bizarre Korean stuff. In order to keep up, I highly recommend you check out the following resources:
    • General
      • Team Liquid. Team Liquid is the biggest Starcraft related fan site out on the Internet today. They follow everything Starcraft related including the pro scene. Many great articles, forums, and information can be found here. A must bookmark for any Starcraft fan.
      • Wellplayed.org. Starcraft 2 aggregation site from the SCReddit group.
    • Talk shows
      • State of the Game podcast. The pillars of the starcraft 2 community --- JP, EGIncontrol, Liquid`Tyler, and Day[9] --- talk (mostly) about current events in the starcraft community every Tuesday.
    • Educational


    OK that's all cool, but I want to play with some PA people.
    1) Log into Battle.net and join channel PA (on the NA realm). We all hang out there. Chat, 1v1 lobbies, and team shenanigans are always going on!

    2) Sign up for a replay site such as gamereplays.org or drop.sc. This is a site where you can upload your replays. The perfect way to share your replays with the thread and get advice on how to get better. Gamereplays lets you post the cool banner that you frequently see on the internets and drop.sc lets you upload replays without having to create a new account.

    3) Register with the PA SC2 1v1 Ranking site. Sign up for this awesome site to see where you stand amongst fellow PA members. Remember, this is important in the nurturing and expanding of your e-peen. Add yourself by clicking on [Manage Characters] on the top right side.

    4) Sign up for the PA mumble page. Sign up if you want to chat with fellow PA users during games or watching tournaments. Thanks to Exoplasm for hosting the service and providing the step-by-step process for installing mumble.


    JK. I like watching Starcraft instead. Where can I watch some good games?
    Major tournaments. Starcraft is e-sports. Follow these major tournaments and you will not be disappoint.
    • The GSL. The premiere korean starcraft 2 league. Where the best go to play. Casted by Tastosis, the casting archon.
    • The TSL. Team Liquid's major tournament where foreigners stomp koreans and everyone attributes it to lag.
    • Major League Gaming. North American e-sports powerhouse now features Starcraft 2 (as long as their stream is online). "tahts halo dont worry".
    • North American Star League. The upstart league headed by fan-favorites Incontrol and Gretorp. $400k up for grabs in the first season alone.
    • IGN Pro League. Everyone's getting into e-sports, even IGN! 16 of the top players from North America duking it out for fabulous prizes.

    And those are only the major ones! Follow the Team Liquid Tournament Tracker for more competitive goodness.

    Streams. Perhaps you prefer something more intimate. Maybe watching starcraft 2 like it's Being John Malkovich? Thanks to the power of the Internet, there are infinity streams available for your voyeuristic pleasure. Here are our favorites.

    Want more streams? Check out Teamliquid's live video stream page for more goodness.
    And last but certainly not least!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4NsiMGWgGU

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    DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    What a great series.

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    Bruce ForsythBruce Forsyth Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I, too, hope someone has cancer.

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    DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Fizban140 wrote:
    I was going to make it.

    You're jailed, genius.

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    Fizban140Fizban140 Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2011
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    Fizban140 wrote:
    I was going to make it.

    You're jailed, genius.

    Yeah I know you guys just have to wait 3 months.

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    His CorkinessHis Corkiness Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    That is the Collegiate Star League logo, you know

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    undeinPiratundeinPirat Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    so what have we learned

    mc owns

    puma is cool

    and between mc v sen and mc v puma we got to witness two of the best series in their matchups ever

    nasl can't ruin matches like that

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    Fizban140Fizban140 Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2011
    Incontrol and Gretorp did an outstanding job casting.

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    DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    can we get a reminder in the title somewhere about the CSL Lite now that NASL is over?

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    TorgaironTorgairon Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Fizban140 wrote: »
    Incontrol and Gretorp did an outstanding job casting.

    you're really trying to shove gretorp down our throats

    but

    he did an alright job with the final games. daycontrol for nasl2, though.

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    DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    i think its a bit unfair to expect the season's main casters to step aside for GUEST casters (thats what Tastosis were, don't forget it) for the FINALS of the tournament that they have casted the whole way.

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    mysticjuicermysticjuicer [he/him] I'm a muscle wizard and I cast P U N C HRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    i think its a bit unfair to expect the season's main casters to step aside for GUEST casters (thats what Tastosis were, don't forget it) for the FINALS of the tournament that they have casted the whole way.

    Exactly.
    Torgairon wrote:
    daycontrol for nasl2, though.

    Yessssssss.

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    Fizban140Fizban140 Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2011
    I dont think incontrol is doing season 2, likely Gretorp/Mrbitter/Kaltor/Whoever.

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    Joe KJoe K Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    can we get a reminder in the title somewhere about the CSL Lite now that NASL is over?

    wait, CSLL is THIS Friday. Ok, that's what I originally thought, and will be able to play. geezus i'm an idi10t

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    rorrrorr Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I just hope people are paid the correct prize purse--can't cash those giant checks :(

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    kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    i think its a bit unfair to expect the season's main casters to step aside for GUEST casters (thats what Tastosis were, don't forget it) for the FINALS of the tournament that they have casted the whole way.

    Exactly.
    Torgairon wrote:
    daycontrol for nasl2, though.

    Yessssssss.

    Day will never settle down as a salaried full time caster for someone else's league.

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    DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    the sponsors for the ESL and whatever other league that skipped out on paying the prize money

    isn't there a contract for the sponsors that they have to pay those winnings? Seems a bit off that they can just decide "haha nope" and not pay.

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    LilnoobsLilnoobs Alpha Queue Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    What are a bunch of ignorant foreigners in a relatively niche scene going to do?

    Take them to court? Beat them with a stick? Send hatemail?

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    McAllenMcAllen Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I'm sure there's a Willy Wonka clause in E-sport tournament contracts that allow the sponsor to do whatever they please.

    Did MC win

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    VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    so MC won then? but the games ware worth checking out

    was it close at least?

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    undeinPiratundeinPirat Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    the sponsors for the ESL and whatever other league that skipped out on paying the prize money

    isn't there a contract for the sponsors that they have to pay those winnings? Seems a bit off that they can just decide "haha nope" and not pay.

    well i mean

    sometimes when those type of things happen it can be shady depending on how naive the parties involved are

    edit: vari puma won

    and yes watch all the games of mc v sen and mc v puma

    so

    fucking

    good

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    kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Really really good tournament, especially the last 2 series.

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    VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    PUMA WON! oh that makes up for my flight being delayed for 4 hours

    1) terran wins
    2) mc loses (I went over yesterday that I don't REALLY hate him, I just get rage going when I watch him because he is hax... having the chance to watch a terran beat him is worth quite a lot to me right now)
    3) artosis was right

    I vow to watch at least those series when I get home in... 6 or 7 fucking hours

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    SaarutoSaaruto Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I need a subscription to watch the finals VODs right? I went to to the amusement park for one day and I completely missed like 20 pages of the old thread. The finals got everyone very talkative eh? Also, Fruitdealer and Trickster to Startale? Fuck yeah.

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    undeinPiratundeinPirat Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    wait fruitdealer and trickster to startale? fffffffffffffuck yeah

    also i don't know about the vods, maybe search on youtube, i'm sure someone will have them up at least for a bit at some point

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    kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I just played a terran on slag pits.

    *As his scv scouts a second empty base*

    "Wait, wait, we can spawn close positions on this map?!"

    "Yeah"

    "how sad"

    Pulls his scv line and a-moves over the spines, queens, and lings that I had been massing.

    :rotate: Blizzard maps :rotate:

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    enc0reenc0re Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I only caught the last round of the NASL final. Is there a video up yet of all rounds?

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    SaarutoSaaruto Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    wait fruitdealer and trickster to startale? fffffffffffffuck yeah

    also i don't know about the vods, maybe search on youtube, i'm sure someone will have them up at least for a bit at some point

    According to some twitter things (that I saw on Reddit), Startale is about to get even awesomer. I found the vods on Youtube, but I don't know how long they'll last. Watching Sen vs. MC and Puma vs MC is in my queue.

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    GraviijaGraviija Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    kedinik wrote: »
    I just played a terran on slag pits.

    *As his scv scouts a second empty base*

    "Wait, wait, we can spawn close positions on this map?!"

    "Yeah"

    "how sad"

    Pulls his scv line and a-moves over the spines, queens, and lings that I had been massing.

    :rotate: Blizzard maps :rotate:
    I seriously don't get how Blizzard thought that map was a good idea. The rush distance on close positions is like, what, half the distance of Steppes?

    Ok, well, maybe not that short, but that map fucking sucks.

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    DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    kedinik wrote: »
    I just played a terran on slag pits.

    *As his scv scouts a second empty base*

    "Wait, wait, we can spawn close positions on this map?!"

    "Yeah"

    "how sad"

    Pulls his scv line and a-moves over the spines, queens, and lings that I had been massing.

    :rotate: Blizzard maps :rotate:

    It is literally impossible to stop the bottom of your ramp from being bunkered as a Protoss if the terran decides he wants to make two barracks and try for it. The distance is just too short.

    I downvote Slag, Delta and Scrap as Terran and Protoss.

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    stimtokolosstimtokolos Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I think I have Typhon downvoted instead of Scrap in that set.

    I'd downvote Scrap but I just metagame the ladder vetos, everyone else vetos it so I may as well get a free veto. I sometimes get ZvZ on it and people try to do builds that hold your ramp with roaches on normal maps. They die horribly.

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    OremLKOremLK Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Am I the only one who wishes for much more rigid rules and consistency among 1v1 maps? I would very much prefer it if the rush distance were about the same on all maps, and if every map supported a variety of playstyles (early aggression, macro, everything in between) instead of having your "rush map" and your "macro map" and so forth. Also, I don't like the element of luck introduced by four player maps in general, but especially the ones with short rush distances.

    If we had five versions of Xel'Naga caverns with varying map architecture/base placement/tower placement I would actually be happier with that.

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    DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    it may be dumb, but its what Blizzard wants

    Personally I think the 4player maps that have close spawn disabled are all excellent maps.

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    stimtokolosstimtokolos Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Everything being the same wouldn't be a great idea. I think TDA is the upper limit on distances I'm comfortable with. The close positions on most maps are a bit too close for my liking. I think backwater gulch has the distance I'd be happy with as close positions distance. (A bit shorter than close air tends to be by ground)

    Although I don't mind the disabled close spawn maps, it makes them all into 3player maps as far as scouting is concerned, which is fun sometimes, but I don't like it when zerg can eliminate one position so swiftly with the overlord at close air.
    I also dislike how easy it makes proxy aggression even though I rarely run into it.

    On shakuras for instace, you can proxy as if it were a 2 player map, but your opponent potentially has to scout two locations to know you're not proxying.

    I think they just need to rework how they set up the ramp / main position, close air is also so fucking close as air it feels silly. (even if this helps with mutas it isn't right)

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    kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    XNC is pretty much perfect, I think.

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    DarkMechaDarkMecha The Outer SpaceRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Man this game, I need to play it more. Thankfully I'll be done with this semester as of Weds, so should have more time to get crushed in SC2. Yay! :D

    Speaking of being crushed, I'd love to play in the CSLL on Fri but I work 6-9pm EST - doh! =( At least I can still watch a few matches after I get home.

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    OremLKOremLK Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Everything being the same wouldn't be a great idea. I think TDA is the upper limit on distances I'm comfortable with. The close positions on most maps are a bit too close for my liking. I think backwater gulch has the distance I'd be happy with as close positions distance. (A bit shorter than close air tends to be by ground)

    I'm not really saying make every map the same in all respects, I would simply prefer it if you always know where your opponent spawns in a 1v1, and the rush distances are always about the same so you can have accurate timings across all maps. Beyond that you could still have a ton of variety in the way the maps are laid out, the way bases are set up, etc, to keep things interesting.

    That said I don't really care about map variety at all, personally (I understand many people do). I come from a lot of DotA and LoL where you basically just play on the same map every game. That in itself was never an issue for me. You learn the map like the back of your hand and the developers can fine-tune it to perfection, as well.

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    stimtokolosstimtokolos Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    kedinik wrote: »
    XNC is pretty much perfect, I think.

    Every terran I have met on that map in the past week has tried some dumb shit vs me.

    One of them I saw send an SCV down his ramp and continue in that direction. I harass his rax worker, go down, no cc, he keeps chasing me far with another SCV. Something is obviously up, behind his LOS blocker, two makaesque barracks.

    Drop two spines, make a queen at the front some lings. Inevitable SCV allin. Leaves game.

    Next guy tried to proxy one behind my gold minerals, even though I saw him lay it down with my OL then fucked with him with a drone, got 3 SCVs to red hp with that drone and he kept trying instead of just cancelling immediately and only being a little behind. SCV marine push held easily. He then went blueflame helllions and marines and I had to pull out of my nat but was far ahead and lost no drones, push him back with lings and mutas. Take whole map.

    Fucking everyone.

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    DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    kedinik wrote: »
    XNC is pretty much perfect, I think.

    Yeah, Xel'Naga Caverns is easily the best map Blizzard has made.

    Metalopolis non-close spawn is also fantastic.

    Which makes it all the more dismal that those two maps, one of which has been here since beta and the other since release (Xel'Naga was in only at release, right?) are still the best example of Blizzard mapmaking.

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    stimtokolosstimtokolos Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Is TDA blizzard made? Or did they just modify it after it was in the GSL by putting rocks in front of my not horrible fast 3rd. I also don't know if GSL adopted the rocks version, honestly can't remember. I know it used to be vacant though.

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