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Shooting Range n00b

RecklessReckless Registered User regular
edited February 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
My best friend's birthday just came and passed, and we've both been itching to try our hands at some target shooting recently. I figured it'd be an awesome gift to take her to a local range, rent two handguns, buy some ammo, and try our hand at shooting.

Now, I've never been to a range before. For the record, I'm 18, she's 20, and we're in New York State.

So, my questions are mostly aimed at people who have gone shooting before.

1) Can we rent handguns at a typical range?

2) How can I research a range to make sure it isn't too seedy? I expect a certain level of unsavory folk, but it is a shooting range so, at least in the mental picture I have, that's to be expected.

3) How much should two rentals, some lessons, and some ammo be?

4) Anything else I should be aware of?


Thanks for any help!

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  • msuitepyonmsuitepyon Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I don't believe either of you would be able to rent a pistol. Of the few ranges that I've looked at online, all of them require a New York state pistol license (which you have to be 21 to get). I believe you could rent long guns (rifles, predominantly). Ammo could get kind of expensive based upon the type of ammunition the weapon uses. Not sure about lessons; shooting is the ultimate point-and-click operation. Focus on the far sight and place it between the near sight.

    All of the gun ranges I've been to have been top-notch. If crap looks like it's falling apart, go somewhere else, but typically, because these guys are liable for your safety (except in cases when you get stupid), it should be well-maintained. Be sure to use proper safety (keep the muzzle down-range, keep weapons unloaded when not in use, assure no one is down-range, etc.) wherever you go.

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  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2007
    If you have a buddy who owns his own guns are you able to use his at a range?

    As far as getting better, my understanding is that you want a fundamental understanding of the mechanical processes and forces involved (this also helps for safety, it's generally a much better idea to let a chemist handle volatile chemicals than some undergrad who managed to find a major where he never had to take any chem classes at all) and then from there practice forever. Like, seriously never stop practicing anything you want to be good at.

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  • CangoFettCangoFett Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    #1 rule: If you dont know what you're doing, dont do it.

    If that means waiting for a friend to come with you to teach you to shoot, awesome. I'm not really sure how going it alone would work though. My first thoughts would be to advise against it.


    Now, I dunno how things work in NY, but here in Awesomeland - also known as, 'The South' - most ranges have pistol rentals. Somewhere between 10 and 20 bucks I think.


    Not much you can do to research most ranges. However, I've never been to a range and thought, "Man, Im gonna get capped up in this hizzle," If thats a concern at all, cut your losses and leave. I cant imagine spending any ammount of time at a 'seedy,' range.


    Rentals: 10-25 dollars, I'd think.
    For ammo: You can get a box of 100 9mm bullets at wal-mart for about 11 bucks. Some ranges want/need you to buy their stuff though, and may offer discounts on range fees.


    No idea about lessons cost though. When I learned, it was from my dad, and his buddies, all of which are competent shooters.


    As far as anything else you should know:
    Guns are safe.
    You can have a loaded gun sitting on a table for decades, and noone will be bothered by it. Guns are safe. Not perfectly safe, but extremly safe. The issue comes from the user.
    Basic gun handling rules that everyone knows:
    1: Every gun is always loaded. Even if you see a guy empty a gun, and hand it to you, the first thing you should always do is check to make sure its empty. Even after knowing its empty, treat it like its loaded to the full extent you can. This means that if you have to clean it, go ahead, after making sure its empty. But dont say, "ZOGM LAWL BILL MY GUN IS UNLOADED LOOK IM SHOOTIN MAH HEADS."

    2:Never let the muzzle aim at anything you arent willing to see destroyed. Look at something. Say, "If this thing ceased to exist, would I be upset?" If the answer is not 'no' dont point a gun anywhere near it. This includes people.

    3:Keep your finger off the trigger. If you arent looking down the sights, at a target that you decided is okay to shoot, then your finger shouldnt be on the trigger, or in the trigger guard. It should be indexed along the side of the gun.

    4:Know your target, know your backstop. If you arent 100% sure what you're shooting, dont shoot it. Even before shooting it, know whats behind it. This isnt much of an issue at shooting ranges, but still needs to be said.


    Now, keep in mind, every negligent discharge of a firearm had to be caused by all 4 of those rules being broken. If everyone followed all those rules, or even just one of them, you'd never have someone accidently shoot someone else.

    Have fun, be safe, and all that other cliche jazz

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  • sirSolariussirSolarius Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    You generally need to have a person 21+ to shoot at an indoor shooting range. You should call ahead to find out. So yeah... bring a friend or family member who is old enough, and you guys are fine. Tell them that it's your first time, and be very, very careful.

    All guns are downrange at all times. Never, never, never ever point the gun anywhere that isn't downrange, which includes accidentally sweeping people when you put a new magazine in, etc.

    Read over those safety rules above and be really, really safe. As someone who frequents ranges, if anyone gets mad at you for safety reasons, don't take offense. Just explain that you're new and ask them for help.

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  • RepoMan1023RepoMan1023 Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    CangoFett wrote: »
    #1 rule: If you dont know what you're doing, dont do it.

    If that means waiting for a friend to come with you to teach you to shoot, awesome. I'm not really sure how going it alone would work though. My first thoughts would be to advise against it.
    If you have never fired a handgun before, I suggest you take a lesson before shooting. Gun ranges vary from place to place. The ones around me now are all members only, while the ones back where I lived in TX weren't. Most ranges that rent weapons often offer classes as well. It would probably be a good idea to take a safety lesson first.

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  • EverywhereasignEverywhereasign Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Leasons are a great idea, they even make a great gift so you can go with your friend. If that doesn't seem like your cup of tea, then you need a friends with a licence. At the club I know of here, you can bring a visitor as long as they are old enough to sign their life away, the registered member is the one responsible for them no matter what.

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  • thisisthepotthisisthepot Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I actually went to a range for the first time this past weekend. Me and two of my friends rented a 9mm USP and got some boxes of ammo. It was good times. But yes you will need someone who is 21 to be there. I had shot a pistol before that time but the guy who worked there was really helpful and showed us everything we needed to know about the gun and shooting itself. Do some research to see what is allowed at ranges in your area. For instance the one we went to was pistol only, and even then only small/mid caliber pistols (.22 through .45, so no Desert Eagle). Usually places like that (or local gun stores) have info about taking gun safety lessons, which I highly recommend. Ammo will probably run you about 10-12 dollars per box (usually 50 rounds), plus gun rental (5 bucks or so) and if you need a day pass or something. It was worth it in my case.

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