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[Classical music] discussion thread.

MatthewMatthew Registered User regular
edited July 2011 in Debate and/or Discourse
I'm not sure how popular a thread something like this is going to be, but nevertheless. Just recently, in my quest for something to break the humdrum sameness of life, I have begun listenig to classical music (you know, Symphonic, Orchestral, that sort). I have listened to several numbers by Victor Herbert which I rather like (Natoma, and the Irish Rhapsody among those), and I have a soft spot for this number.



And, of course, there's this well known number.



I love the different kind of feelings you get from classical music, though I know its appeal isn't universal. What about you guys?

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  • firewaterwordfirewaterword Satchitananda Pais Vasco to San FranciscoRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Dvorak's Symphony No. 9 is probably my favorite musical thing. To put a finer point on it, the 4th movement is where it's at. It has also nearly gotten me many speeding tickets.
    His violin and cello concertos are totally fucking rad too.

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  • BagginsesBagginses __BANNED USERS regular
    Are we allowed to talk about baroque or romantic music?

  • KalTorakKalTorak Way up inside your butthole, Morty. WAAAAY up inside there.Registered User regular
    Bagginses wrote:
    Are we allowed to talk about baroque or romantic music?

    Hope so. Chopin 4 lyfe, dawg.

  • DemerdarDemerdar Registered User regular
    I love me some Chopin.

    In fact, I prefer classical piano to almost any music (besides math-metal, of course).

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  • TastyfishTastyfish Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    It's almost traditional that I embarrass myself each much thread at some point, so lets get this over with.

    BBC did a collaboration between Nero (D'n'B producers) and the BBC Philharmonic Orchestra to do a dubstep symphony. The result isn't dubstep in the slightest (doesn't meet any definitions in the slightest really, even though it could have done - it's a marketing thing really). But if you like the sort of very emotional orchestral music that ends up on trailers and soundtracks (which given the previous entries and Classic FM's hit albums and request days, everyone does) then it's probably a decent piece of music to listen to. It's not subtle, but then that was never the point since it's all about capturing the feel of a elemental style of music without copying the actual style perfectly. If you liked Muses' Exogenesis, or felt that that wasn't enough for you, worth a listen.



    There's obviously been a lot of collaborations between orchestras and artists of modern styles (Metallica, Cyprus Hill etc), but this is one of the first ones I've heard where this was the intention from the start and is obviously different from what would have been performed normally. It's very much a track for the orchestra in an orchestral style, though with some modern additions.

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  • setrajonassetrajonas Registered User regular
    I've been in a Bartok mood lately myself. 3rd and 4th string quartets for life yo.

  • MatthewMatthew Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote:
    Bagginses wrote:
    Are we allowed to talk about baroque or romantic music?

    Hope so. Chopin 4 lyfe, dawg.

    Don't see why not.

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    RITE OF SPRING (Stravinsky)



    I haven't heard anything I like nearly as much. I don't know how many times I have heard it. I think I listen to it at minimum once a week. It is ugly and it is beautiful and light and visceral at different points. I have heard several renditions but I actually really do like that one posted. It could be faster though.

    If anyone has a favorite rendition of The Rite I would love to hear it. I was in fact thinking of making a H&A thread for it. Here is one of my favorite bits ("The Augurs of Spring"):



    And here is the piano version, which is its own beast entirely:



    This piece of music makes me want to learn piano. So I can start off subdued only to break into frantic pounding. Just like in the movies! Mad piano ma'am.

  • iammattpleeveeiammattpleevee Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I don't listen to a lot of classical music, but god damn do I love this song.

    edit: wrong link.

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  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    This is probably the most shallow contribution to the thread, and I will openly blame my ignorance, but the Beethoven piece used in Band of Brothers is something really great. I tracked down the full composition and it's different in tone from the one used in the mini-series, but I still enjoy it.



    I really need to get myself set straight with classical music. I use to laugh at it as a kid, then video games starting using some from time to time, and then I realized how much I do appreciate the real deal.

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  • DemerdarDemerdar Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote:
    This is probably the most shallow contribution to the thread, and I will openly blame my ignorance, but the Beethoven piece used in Band of Brothers is something really great. I tracked down the full composition and it's different in tone from the one used in the mini-series, but I still enjoy it.



    I really need to get myself set straight with classical music. I use to laugh at it as a kid, then video games starting using some from time to time, and then I realized how much I do appreciate the real deal.

    That Earthworm Jim level with MIDI Moonlight Sonata is forever ingrained into my memory.

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  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    Demerdar wrote:
    That Earthworm Jim level with MIDI Moonlight Sonata is forever ingrained into my memory.

    Yay I'm not the only one. <3

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  • facetiousfacetious a wit so dry it shits sandRegistered User regular
    I tend to prefer lighter, chamber orchestra pieces.

    Vivaldi, bitches.

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  • facetiousfacetious a wit so dry it shits sandRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Also a while ago I was driving with my cousin and a friend of his and we were discussing classical music for whatever reason.

    He said, "I like Choppin." Pronounced as though he were cooking.

    I hummed agreement for a moment, then realised what he said and did a gigantic double-take. "'Choppin'??"

    "I know, I know," said he. "It's Show-pin."

    "Still wrong!" I cried.

    And now I make fun of him for life.

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  • BobCescaBobCesca Registered User regular
    I really need to listen to some more twentieth century composers. I read a book that Podly got japan for secret Santa one year which was all about modern classical music, but then I got busy and never got around to searching out some of the composers.

  • EvigilantEvigilant VARegistered User regular
    Anything from Chopin:



    just to name a few

    Dvorak's "From the New World", Symphony No. 9 in E minor, Op. 95 is amazing.
    Liszt - Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2
    Rachmaninoff - Rach 3, mov 1
    Verdi - Requiem Mass Dies Irae
    Tchaikovsky - Marche Slave

    I used to play the piano like it was a religion and I was in between learning Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsodies, Chopin's Op. 53, "Heroic Polonaise", and some Scott Joplin before I stopped. Joplin's Bethena is one of my favorites:

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  • KakodaimonosKakodaimonos Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    There's a lot of 20th century composers. With a lot of different styles.

    I've been into the 12-tone and minimalist stuff lately.

    John Adams


    Schoenberg


    Berg


    Eisler


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  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    So again, I hate to be that guy, and I know this is less classical and more just modern orchestrated music, but... well, two things:





    Okay I'll leave forever now. <.<

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  • DBReedDBReed Registered User regular
    I am a HUGE Mahler fan. This whole finale to his 8th symphony is amazing, but my favorite part is at 4:00 minutes.


    His 2nd symphony is great also. Fast forward to around 7:00 minutes.


    While I love all of the loud stuff, I think Mahler's best music can be found in his softer moments, like the 3rd movement from the 4th symphony.


    I play this kind of stuff for a living, so it makes me happy to see a thread like this. It's unfortunate that classical music has gotten the reputation for being snobbish and exclusive. I was reading the comments on these videos, and one person wrote that Mahler's music is so complex that it would take years of musical training to truly appreciate it, which is complete crap. You don't need to go to school and study to understand and appreciate this kind of music. It can reach people on many different levels, which is one of the reasons I feel that classical music is so powerful and enduring.

    If you live close to a symphony orchestra, check out their schedule. If they're playing something like Rite of Spring or Beethoven 9 or a Mahler symphony, do yourself a favor and go. Listening to recordings of this stuff is great, but it's something else entirely to see a great orchestra perform live.

  • DemerdarDemerdar Registered User regular
    Definitely have to throw some props out for Planets as well :^:

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  • Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I was concertmaster of two orchestras in high school and principal 2nd violinist in undergrad for 3 years. I spent my freshman year as 5th chair 1st violin, and the conductor offered me either the principal 2nd violinist or assistant concertmaster seat the following year... up until that point, I had never played 2nd violin except to cover for parts in musicals or wedding quartets. I absolutely loved being Principal 2nd Violin. You get all of the cool duets and solos that aren't covered by the concertmaster. That also gave me a seat on the program selection committee, where I got to secretly select all of the different pieces of music I've always wanted to play, but never had the chance. We did everything from film scores (performing Star Wars and E.T. is SO MUCH FUN!) to Gershwin (Piano Concerto in F AND Rhapsody in Blue) to The Planets to Scheherazade.

    Being a violinist, my tastes in orchestral music are HEAVILY weighted toward violin soloists. I would highly recommend Joshua Bell or Isaac Stern for emotional and brilliant performances of various pieces. I'm particularly fond of Joshua Bell's Kreisler collection and Isaac Stern's Humoresque: Favorite Violin encores. Sarah Chang also regularly sees my playlists, as she is probably the most technically brilliant current violinists out there.

    Here's Joshua Bell playing two Kreisler favorites, Liebeslied and Liebesfreud:


    Here's Isaac Stern playing "Bess, You Is My Woman Now" from Gershwin's Porgy and Bess:


    Of the brilliant violin pieces out there, I cannot imagine a better piece than Sarasate's "Zigeunerweisen". It covers the full dynamic range of the violin, and shows off pretty much every gimmick that violinists can do. It even has left-hand pizzicato. Here's Jascha Heifetz performing it. It starts with a slow ballad for 7 minutes, but then it picks up like a tornado ("Meanwhile, in a completely different violin piece...") at 7 minutes:

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  • HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    This is my favorite:


    It is so good.

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    It's too classic not to go into a classical music thread.


    We can post anything orchestral, right?

    No?

    Well imma break your lawz.


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  • KoopahTroopahKoopahTroopah The koopas, the troopas. Philadelphia, PARegistered User regular
    Moonlight Sonata is great. As is The Rite of Spring. Before Black Swan came out I listened to some Swan Lake videos on youtube. Some ridiculously good music.

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  • MatthewMatthew Registered User regular
    Well, if we're posting Videogame music, I see no problem with adding this piece. (I'm a sucker for heroic music)



    Also this.

  • BagginsesBagginses __BANNED USERS regular
    facetious wrote:
    Also a while ago I was driving with my cousin and a friend of his and we were discussing classical music for whatever reason.

    He said, "I like Choppin." Pronounced as though he were cooking.

    I hummed agreement for a moment, then realised what he said and did a gigantic double-take. "'Choppin'??"

    "I know, I know," said he. "It's Show-pin."

    "Still wrong!" I cried.

    And now I make fun of him for life.

    It's clearly pronounced "Khoo-pine."

    Try saying that to the biggest Chopin fan you can find, and laugh as his head explodes.

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  • KakodaimonosKakodaimonos Registered User regular
    Hmm, no Saint-Saens

  • setrajonassetrajonas Registered User regular
    One of the greatest 20th century piano pieces

  • Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User regular
    Honk wrote:
    This is my favorite:


    It is so good.
    It's like the orchestra version of "I'm on a Boat!" In that, it's a piece that makes you feel like you are floating down a river and seeing the sights as you go along (the title refers to a river in Smetana's homeland). It starts you off with little rivulets and droplets, goes down to rushing rapids, floats quietly by a village having a festival, and thunders with waterfalls. I've had the opportunity to play this on three separate occasions. Love it.

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  • GospreyGosprey Registered User
    edited July 2011
    A little while after I learned how to replace the music for DOOM with other midi files, there was a CD on the front of a magazine with a whole bunch of classical MIDI pieces. It wasn't long until I was wandering around empty corridors listening to the below.



    All Gnossiennes, are 80% certain to make you melancholy or insane.

    There's a quote that I don't fully recall from the film Walk The Line, talking about how Johnny Cash's music keeps going steady like a freight train. Satie's Gnossiennes are more like a clock that has you waiting for the next tick, and its never quite when you expect it.

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  • bobmyknobbobmyknob Registered User regular


    This to me is one of the most amazing performances from a brass player.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/musanim

    This guy puts up videos like the one below that are amazing visualizations of classical music.

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  • HamjuHamju Registered User regular
    You know who's awesome? Rzewski.







    I saw a live performance of the WInnsoboro Cotton Mill Blues by a friend of mine once and it blew me away. Apparently he broke three strings on the schools' pianos while learning it.

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  • HamjuHamju Registered User regular
    Oh I made a rather large post in H/A a while back basically summing up a small portion of classical music that I was pretty proud of. Beware clicking that link because it's got a million youtube videos that were harmless links in the old forums...

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  • DracilDracil Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Funny and informative at the same time (though kinda old now):
    I actually really like Canon (also what made My Sassy Girl one of my favorite movies)

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    Speaking of funny and informative...

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