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edited July 2011 in Debate and/or Discourse

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  • EddyEddy Gengar the Bittersweet Registered User regular

    “Even as a gengar she was lovely.” ― Ovid, Metamorphoses
  • simonwolfsimonwolf there was a silence you took to mean somethingRegistered User regular
    @21stCentury Is that your thread on Magical Burst/Persona over on Something Awful? It struck me as too similar to be pure coincidence.

  • 21stCentury21stCentury Bismuth OS Fully Operational 2019-07-12 - KeystoneRegistered User regular
    Sorry to re-post a question, but I'd like to know...

    is my understanding of American Politics correct?

    There's two parties. Republicans, who are all about rich people and hate everything the Democrats do and yell a lot and Democrats, who are all about rich people, sometimes also about not rich people, hate everything the republicans do and generally try not to make too much noise.

    Americans have to choose between the two and their platform is pretty much always "What my opponent said, but the opposite".

    Also, each vote isn't worth the same because of a guy named Gerry Manders who decided states should vote, not people, so people vote for a state and then the winning party takes all the votes together, therefore erasing those of the losing party.

  • msmyamsmya Being Fabulous Registered User regular
    play LoL with usssssss

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  • OnTheLastCastleOnTheLastCastle let's keep it haimish for the peripatetic Registered User regular
    OH WHEW I THOUGHT CHAT WAS RUINED DISREGARD FORMER MESSAGE ELKI FALSE ALARM WHEW HAI GUYS

    I'm a published writer and have a very unique and interesting writing style. I'm also sharp and witty. My profile is well-written and hilarious. My messages are likewise brilliant. And I've been doing this stuff for...four or five years. I know what "works" in terms of good internet dating writing. "Works" in the sense of leading to a "date" with a human female.

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  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    I have no idea what I just watched from Elki. But now I am listening to Fire in the Disco because it tickles some dark place in my dark heart.

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  • 21stCentury21stCentury Bismuth OS Fully Operational 2019-07-12 - KeystoneRegistered User regular
    simonwolf wrote:
    @21stCentury Is that your thread on Magical Burst/Persona over on Something Awful? It struck me as too similar to be pure coincidence.

    No, I'm no longer allowed there because I killed one of their mods in single combat. But I heard about Magical burst in the obscure/horrible RPGs thread.

  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA mod
    That was a great lock comic.

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  • EddyEddy Gengar the Bittersweet Registered User regular
    Seriously that video is the perfect video for Fire in the Disco

    “Even as a gengar she was lovely.” ― Ovid, Metamorphoses
  • simonwolfsimonwolf there was a silence you took to mean somethingRegistered User regular
    simonwolf wrote:
    @21stCentury Is that your thread on Magical Burst/Persona over on Something Awful? It struck me as too similar to be pure coincidence.

    No, I'm no longer allowed there because I killed one of their mods in single combat. But I heard about Magical burst in the obscure/horrible RPGs thread.

    Huh! That's funny, then, because there is an entire thread dedicated to one guy wanting to hack Magical Burst to be a Persona RPG. How strange!

  • TarranonTarranon Registered User regular
    Elki when did you start posting the lock comics? I say late oh six but I don't remember!

    You could be anywhere
    On the black screen
  • ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    WHEW

    First step of road trip complete- Pack house into car and head to parent's house to set off.

    It begins really tuesday morning when I make the first step out of the state.

    Wooo road trip weeeek

  • SanderJKSanderJK Crocodylus Pontifex Sinterklasicus Madrid, 3000 ADRegistered User regular
    American politics is pretty bad overall. I watch it as an outsider with a sort of grim fascination. And because more and more traits are starting to show up over here. Geert Wilders is a prime example of a politician with a Republican strategy.
    In general, first past the post systems are... not great, and Mr Mandering as you put it makes things worse. Then there's the voter disenfranchising, and the absolutely horrible way the US senate works.

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  • Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Alexandria, VARegistered User regular
    Not quite, Century. There is a significant contingent of Democrats who love Republicans, called Blue Dogs. For the most part, the party doesn't like Republicans but defines itself as being for progress, not just against the other side. The GOP platform tends to be more anti-Democratic.

  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA mod
    Tarranon wrote:
    Elki when did you start posting the lock comics? I say late oh six but I don't remember!
    Maybe. I could look it up later.

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  • MimMim You can be the ripest, juiciest peach in the world and there's still going to be somebody that hates peaches.Registered User regular
    Aw, I like the original Fire in the Disco video. Only because Jack White's voice on an old lady who makes out with the lead singer is funny to me.

  • 21stCentury21stCentury Bismuth OS Fully Operational 2019-07-12 - KeystoneRegistered User regular
    simonwolf wrote:
    simonwolf wrote:
    @21stCentury Is that your thread on Magical Burst/Persona over on Something Awful? It struck me as too similar to be pure coincidence.

    No, I'm no longer allowed there because I killed one of their mods in single combat. But I heard about Magical burst in the obscure/horrible RPGs thread.

    Huh! That's funny, then, because there is an entire thread dedicated to one guy wanting to hack Magical Burst to be a Persona RPG. How strange!

    I was aware of that campaign. I didn't check the notes (if any are posted). All I can say is, we drew the same parallels between the relationship rules for Magical Burst and the S. Links in Persona. But I assure you, my conversion effort is lazy and unrelated to theirs. Plus, it's a system that's light on rules, so practically nothing is changed. Just the genders and ages. (Going to run it as more of a college thing than a high school thing.)

  • ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    Arch wrote:
    WHEW

    First step of road trip complete- Pack house into car and head to parent's house to set off.

    It begins really tuesday morning when I make the first step out of the state.

    Wooo road trip weeeek

    Sore backs and asses await you!

  • ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    Thomamelas wrote:
    Arch wrote:
    WHEW

    First step of road trip complete- Pack house into car and head to parent's house to set off.

    It begins really tuesday morning when I make the first step out of the state.

    Wooo road trip weeeek

    Sore backs and asses await you!

    Already there thanks to moving furniture that was WAYYY heavier than I am out of our house

    Woo?

  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    @21stCentury: Us politics are actually more varied than that. We have two parties which is common for almost all first to the pole(first over 51%) systems.

    The Democrats aka the big tent- This is the party of Obama though he represents one side, the conservative democrat side. This party includes everything from blue dogs(dems in name) to our super liberals like Dennis Kucinich who want to make a department of peace and make some of the European liberals look like conservative. Many are the middle ground which is right of most Europeans but have a longer history of developing social programs.

    Other notable Dems include-Johnson, Kennedy, FDR and Clinton

    The Republicans aka The Grand Old Party aka Nut Jobs- Now this party is kind of three parties. The old school republicans. These are super rare now but they are usually conservative but tend to see a use in some public programs. Reagan Republicans, this is like Mr. Ninja Turtle Mitch McConnell, want to dismantle the social programs and work under the impression of trickle down economics. They tend to reduce taxes and cut all but defense. But they have in the past worked with dems for the country, also can be really crazy. Last is the Tea Party, home of Cantor the crazy. These people take a slash and burn response to government. They are the children of the Reagan revolution who took Ayn Rand as a literal path to prosperity. They wish to privatize and dismantle the government. They also see default as nothing bad. They got into the house last election on a very anti-Obama platform.

    Problem is lots of our media portrays it with out the nuance. Which hurts our discussions a lot.

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  • ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    Arch wrote:
    Thomamelas wrote:
    Arch wrote:
    WHEW

    First step of road trip complete- Pack house into car and head to parent's house to set off.

    It begins really tuesday morning when I make the first step out of the state.

    Wooo road trip weeeek

    Sore backs and asses await you!

    Already there thanks to moving furniture that was WAYYY heavier than I am out of our house

    Woo?

    I'm sorry, I had the mental image of you trying to drag a dresser larger then yourself. Like an ant and a rubber tree plant.

  • ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    Anyway I am gonna crash now

    Gnite forums I will talk to you more next week I think

  • NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    21, the main difference is that one party is effectively insane and determined to ruin whatever they can

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  • ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    Thomamelas wrote:
    Arch wrote:
    Thomamelas wrote:
    Arch wrote:
    WHEW

    First step of road trip complete- Pack house into car and head to parent's house to set off.

    It begins really tuesday morning when I make the first step out of the state.

    Wooo road trip weeeek

    Sore backs and asses await you!

    Already there thanks to moving furniture that was WAYYY heavier than I am out of our house

    Woo?

    I'm sorry, I had the mental image of you trying to drag a dresser larger then yourself. Like an ant and a rubber tree plant.

    Not too far off from what actually happened.

  • STATE OF THE ART ROBOTSTATE OF THE ART ROBOT Registered User regular
    Eddy you shouldn't be playing them LoLs anyway. They are a bad influence on you.

  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Wow, I am on giant explanation rants today. I blame Tarr, he got me into all sort of fun and deep discussions. I am now listening to Metric to change to rest gear before tomorrows super long day of reading.

    Mazzyx on
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  • SanderJKSanderJK Crocodylus Pontifex Sinterklasicus Madrid, 3000 ADRegistered User regular
    I'm not sure any american elected official can outleft some of ours. Our Socialistic Party holds about 10% of the House, the Green Party holds 6%, and the Animal Rights Party holds 1.4%.

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  • 21stCentury21stCentury Bismuth OS Fully Operational 2019-07-12 - KeystoneRegistered User regular
    Nerdgasmic wrote:
    21, the main difference is that one party is effectively insane and determined to ruin whatever they can

    Right. The Democrats. They're the one who are insane and determined to ruin America *crying eagle*. Right?

  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    SanderJK wrote:
    I'm not sure any american elected official can outleft some of ours. Our Socialistic Party holds about 10% of the House, the Green Party holds 6%, and the Animal Rights Party holds 1.4%.

    Read some stuff Kucinich wants he would be up there with Greens. He can be awesome other times, kind of nutty. He also looks like a puppet. I would so vote for him if I could though.

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  • SanderJKSanderJK Crocodylus Pontifex Sinterklasicus Madrid, 3000 ADRegistered User regular
    A main problem in US politics is that about 70% of the voters are pretty predetermined D or R, and the 30% that aren't are pretty much not that interested in the first place. So everything has to be soundbited down, made exceeding simple, and has to make the news or it will never reach them. At the same time the bases have to remain fired up, because one of the big ways of losing an election is if your electorate stays home.
    So you have politicians saying extreme things to fire the base, and simple things to connect with the independents, and it's basicly ends up as nonsensical and bad analogies.

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  • simonwolfsimonwolf there was a silence you took to mean somethingRegistered User regular
    So here is a thing that I've always wondered about:

    Most countries have non-mandantory voting. Down here in Australia, we do. That's never been an issue for me.

    But I've seen people on both sides of the "if you don't vote, you don't have a say" argument for non-mandantory countries, and I've always been surprised by the vehemence on the end of the people who seem to be of the opinion that you get a say in the political process regardless of whether you vote or not.

    So my question is more along the lines of "what kind of change do people expect when they don't participate in the institutional democratic process", beyond a desire to tear the whole system down

  • EddyEddy Gengar the Bittersweet Registered User regular
    All I'm sayin is if you're not a blue dog you're a monster

    that's all i'm saying dogg

    “Even as a gengar she was lovely.” ― Ovid, Metamorphoses
  • ToxTox I kill threads Punch DimensionRegistered User regular
    Nerdgasmic wrote:
    21, the main difference is that one party is effectively insane and determined to ruin whatever they can

    And the other party is full of republicans!

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  • 21stCentury21stCentury Bismuth OS Fully Operational 2019-07-12 - KeystoneRegistered User regular
    And Fox News is a Republican corporation, right?

  • ToxTox I kill threads Punch DimensionRegistered User regular
    Every corporation is a republican corporation.

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  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA mod
    And Fox News is a Republican corporation, right?

    The Republican Party is a Fox News corporation.

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  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    What you are describing is a problem with the basis of our system. When you have a first to the post, I remembered the name, you tend to get only two parties. The lack of voters comes from fatigue though and lack of knowledge. But a lot of it comes from funding and how the system functions. If it was a proportional representation the US would probably be a very different country but it is not.

    And all politicians say really stupid things, that is politicians. Though a lot of our current soundbite world comes from a 24 hour news cycle and the repeal of the equal time protections by Reagan in the 1980s(at least I remember it being then). We use to force TV to give equal time to both candidates, now we don't. In many ways this allowed the evolution of Fox News. But that is a whole different can of worms.

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  • South hostSouth host I obey without question Registered User regular
    simonwolf wrote:
    So here is a thing that I've always wondered about:

    Most countries have non-mandantory voting. Down here in Australia, we do. That's never been an issue for me.

    But I've seen people on both sides of the "if you don't vote, you don't have a say" argument for non-mandantory countries, and I've always been surprised by the vehemence on the end of the people who seem to be of the opinion that you get a say in the political process regardless of whether you vote or not.

    So my question is more along the lines of "what kind of change do people expect when they don't participate in the institutional democratic process", beyond a desire to tear the whole system down

    Things should just be better, obviously.

    Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Elki wrote:
    And Fox News is a Republican corporation, right?

    The Republican Party is a News Corp and its subsidiaries corporation.

    Fixed that for you Elki.

    Mazzyx on
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  • OnTheLastCastleOnTheLastCastle let's keep it haimish for the peripatetic Registered User regular
    21stCentury has spent all of today intentionally saying inflammatory and incorrect things. Why are people still responding to him.

    I'm a published writer and have a very unique and interesting writing style. I'm also sharp and witty. My profile is well-written and hilarious. My messages are likewise brilliant. And I've been doing this stuff for...four or five years. I know what "works" in terms of good internet dating writing. "Works" in the sense of leading to a "date" with a human female.

    twitch.tv/onthelastcastle
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