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What System to Get?

Katchem_ashKatchem_ash __BANNED USERS regular
edited February 2007 in Games and Technology
Yesterday I got news that I will be recieving a Bonus and a pay raise. So I have an extra $500 as my raise and a $300 bonus. That makes it $700 and from my regular paycheck I can get a $1,000 to use.

So I was thinking its time that I get a new system. I have a PS2 and a GC with a GBA and orginal Gameboy.

I have a few choices namely the 3 big ones:

1) 360:
+ Dead or Alive series from the previous system and new ones from the 360
+ Blue Dragon and other MS backed JRPG's.
+ The small number of 3rd party JRPG's.
O The design is meh and I can't seem to care either to like it or not.
- Little Third party development in the JRPG area.
- After the MS and other Third party support games are out there is nothing else that is comming in the JRPG range.

2) PS3:
+ PS1/PS2 Library Available
+ Final Fantasy XIII + expansions
+ White Knight
+ Enchanted Arms and the chance of other Third Party JRPG's from the 360 could be ported.
+ The Design is cool
- $699 + Tax is expensive
- Have to wait for games to release and thus turning my PS3 into a PS2

3)Wii:
+ Zelda Series
+ Gamecube Library avaliable
+ Fire Emblem
+ FF:Crystal Chronicals 2
+ The Remote seems cool
- Hard to Find
- Chance of more party/coop games than stand alones.

However I can also get these:

4) PSP
+ JRPG's/SRPG's Available
+ I already have a couple of games for it (But no system, damn implus buys!)
+ Can take anywhere
- Very Fragile
- $49.99 for some games are the same as the PS2 games.

5) DS
+ JRPG's/SRPG's Available
+ Resonable priced games
+ FF's avaliable
+ FF Crystal Chronicals for the DS
- Very Hard to find
- Comes in only three colours (Would like metalic like my GBA)

If I don't buy a system, I could always buy those games on my want list from various retailers though I don't know when I could play them.

On the other hand I could buy a good HD TV and use my current systems till I save up money again.

Do you guys have any opinions on what I should do?

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Get a DS now and wait on the big 3 for another year or so until they get bigger libraries and maybe price drops. I bought a Wii at launch and feel kinda dumb about it: few systems are worth buying anywhere near launch.

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  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Decide which system has the games you most want to play. You know what they'll be better than anyone else.

    japan on
  • DigDug2000DigDug2000 Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    If you already have games for the PSP then why not buy the actual system? I mean that seems... stupid to me.

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  • Katchem_ashKatchem_ash __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2007
    japan wrote: »
    Decide which system has the games you most want to play. You know what they'll be better than anyone else.

    All 5 of them have JRPG's/SRPG's comming in the future or available now. Most of my Library is made of JRPG's/SPRG's and a few others but based on what I play the most, I would have to get all 5 of them and then find time to play them all since I usually have anywehre around 3 to 5 hours to play in a day after work and full days on week ends.

    Edit:
    PSP Games, well I bought them because I found them not very common. I haven't seen Valkye Profile:Lenneth around here so I had to pick it up when I found. Don't ask me why I bought those when I had no PSP. Its just sad.

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  • JihadJesusJihadJesus Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    japan wrote: »
    Decide which system has the games you most want to play. You know what they'll be better than anyone else.
    If you're going to make the (smart) decision to purchase based on game library, you might want to hold off until the libraries develop. I'd wait at least until after the Game Developers Conference coming in a couple weeks, since that might at least give you some idea what kind of games are coming a bit further down the line, especially for the two newer systems that are stuck in the 'just past launch zone of doom'.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    honestly - try playing some games that arent JRPGs, you might like some of them.

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  • BaronVonSnakPakBaronVonSnakPak Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    i have a wii, but i mainly use it as a gamecube, because there really arent that many must-have titles out on it, or coming out for awhile. and i havent heard of any jrpg games coming out for it any time soon, either, unless you count fire emblem.

    i also have a 360, which gets the majority of my play time. seeing how the ps3 is garnering a pretty negative stigma, its also likely that alot of ps3 exclusives will find their way to the 360. oh, and not to mention that theres alot of good games out for it already, and will be coming out pretty consistantly.

    but it really sounds like jrpgs are your thing, in which case i would say just fill out your catalog of ps2 jrpg games, because next gen doesnt seem to have any sort of priority for them.

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  • SandersSanders Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    The fact that over half of your points for both 360 and the PS3 are dealing with JRPGS already rules out why a 360 wouldn't be your best bet.

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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2007
    We had an awful amount of Xmas 360s returned because they burnt rings into discs, hard drives failed, etc, etc.

    Fuck their QC. Get a Wii or a PS3.

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    None of the systems are great for JRPGs right now, and it's still too early to call it. I also suggest getting a DS, catching up on all the good titles and putting aside some money for one of the consoles further down the road.

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  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    We had an awful amount of Xmas 360s returned because they burnt rings into discs, hard drives failed, etc, etc.

    Fuck their QC. Get a Wii or a PS3.

    Personally, I wouldn't put a lot of faith in the durability of launch PS3s, either.

    @Katchem: If the primary reason you buy systems is JRPGs, remember the DS is getting Dragon Quest IX, and you can play your GBA games on a decent screen.

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  • eryu90eryu90 Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I would go for the DS since you do have the whole slew of the GBA library to choose from. Though since you do have PSP games, wouldn't it be better to get a PSP.

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  • Katchem_ashKatchem_ash __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2007
    LewieP wrote: »
    honestly - try playing some games that arent JRPGs, you might like some of them.

    I do. I bought Rumble Roses and Harvest moon last time I checked wasn't a JRPG and neither are SRPG's. FPS aren't my thing because I don't like them and sports are not my thing unless I have some childhood memory for them, which is my I bought Legends of Westling II for the GC.

    DarkWarrior, how common is this complant on the 360?

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  • RainbowDespairRainbowDespair Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I've already argued the case for the 360 in other threads that you've participated in so I'll refrain from extolling its virtues here. And in any case, if you want a 360 for RPGs, you'd probably be better off waiting 'til Christmas since the system will probably get a price drop around that time and by then the system should have Blue Dragon and Eternal Sonata as well as some awesome Western RPGs like Mass Effect & Bioshock. I mean, Enchant Arms is a decent game, but it's no system seller.

    I wouldn't recommend buying a PS3 now because there really doesn't seem to be anything on it that you want right now. You already own a PS2 and by all accounts I've heard PS2 emulation on the PS3 is inferior to just playing the games on the PS2 to begin with.

    The Wii looks like a good choice since you get the backcatalog of games from the Gamecube & the retro titles from the Virtual Console and if you would like to try to branch off into non-RPGs, the Wii looks like a good choice (playing with that remote has gotta be fairly different than playing with a regular controller). And well, if you liked the past Zeldas, I can't see why you wouldn't really like Zelda: Twilight Princess (Despite being a big 2D Zelda fanboy and being disappointed in every other 3D Zelda I've ever played, I really liked Twilight Princess). The only problem is, like you said, actually finding one. Then again, I imagine it would be easier to find one these days than it was before Christmas and it will just get easier to find as time goes by.

    The PSP has been getting a good number of quality RPG ports (Valkryie Profile, Breath of Fire 3, Phantasy Star 2-4 on the Sega Genesis collection) plus you already own a couple of games for it so I'd say it'd make a very good choice.

    I personally don't think the DS has a very strong RPG lineup at the moment (Contact & FFIII remake look fun, but not worth my $30-$40 when there are other games I still want to get around to), but it has a respectable lineup of upcoming RPGs. Plus like the Wii, if you want to try getting into non-RPG games, the DS with its stylus control setup offers a significantly different experience than you may have had on previous consoles.

    My personal recommendation would be to buy a PSP since you obvious want to play certain games on it enough to go out and buy them before buying the system. Alternatively, just catch up on the PS2 RPGs that you haven't finished or purchased yet.

    EDIT: If you buy a PSP, I think you would really like Lumines (trippy musical puzzle game) and probably Loco Roco as well.

    Oh and my personal experience with the 360 is that you're fine as long as you DO NOT MOVE THE SYSTEM WHILE PLAYING. If you move the system while it's playing a game, you're almost guaranteed to ruin the disk. It's also not a bad idea to disconnect the system when you're not using it (most manuals recommend this for all types of systems, but most people don't bother).

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  • BeckBeck Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I do. I bought Rumble Roses and Harvest moon last time I checked wasn't a JRPG and neither are SRPG's. FPS aren't my thing because I don't like them and sports are not my thing unless I have some childhood memory for them, which is my I bought Legends of Westling II for the GC.

    DarkWarrior, how common is this complant on the 360?

    It was a really big issue with launch 360, but they seem to be more stable now. However, there's some rumors about another 360 being released with a HDMI port and a larger HDD, so it might be to your advantage to wait a little bit longer, if you do choose to buy one. Especially if you plan on getting a new TV in the near future.

    So, personally, I'd go with the DS. It's got some JRPGs, Advanced Wars would probably be something you like, and if you never had a GBA, there's an amazing library of games available. Also, it offers a lot to choose from if you want to expand your gaming taste passed JRPGs.

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  • RainbowDespairRainbowDespair Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    mcdermott wrote: »
    and the GC library (while better than decent) pales in comparison to, say, the PS2 library.

    The thing is that Katchem_ash already owns a PS2 so that's kind of a moot point. He apparently does not own a Gamecube. Now admittedly, the Gamecube doesn't have the strongest library (I use mine for Resident Evil & Naruto Gekitou Ninja Taisen 4 and the occasional game of Mario DDR and that's it), but I can think of several Gamecube games he would probably enjoy such as Zelda: Twilight Princess, Zelda: Wind Waker, Tales of Symphonia, and Fire Emblem.

    EDIT: Okay, I feel like an idiot. I just reread the OP and noticed that he said that he had a Gamecube already.

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  • Katchem_ashKatchem_ash __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2007
    So it seems that the 360 is a wait system while they release the update versions.

    For the DS does it play the orginal Gameboy games? How strong is it in case of bumps, drops or scratches? What about the PSP?

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  • LunkerLunker Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    So it seems that the 360 is a wait system while they release the update versions.

    For the DS does it play the orginal Gameboy games? How strong is it in case of bumps, drops or scratches? What about the PSP?
    The DS Phat was a tiny god of armor, although I haven't really tested the Lite out for off-roading. The clamshell design and lack of moving parts means it'll be much more sturdy than a PSP, though.

    As someone who has both, though, I can tell you from a JRPG standpoint, the PSP has a larger lineup. Most of the games are pretty blah and by-the-books, but based on your post history I'd say the PSP is more up your alley. It wins by sheer numbers; the DS, on the other hand, has FF3, the upcoming DQ9 and I'll wager more JRPGs down the pipeline.

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  • SquashuaSquashua __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2007
    Here is a good rule of thumb:

    If you do not own a HDTV or comparable large LCD monitor, do not buy a 360 or a PS3.

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  • Dee KaeDee Kae Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Squashua wrote: »
    Here is a good rule of thumb:

    If you do not own a HDTV or comparable large LCD monitor, do not buy a 360 or a PS3.

    Wait, I just did, and I'm still having fun with it.

    What am I doing wrong? ;-;

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  • ShimShamShimSham Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Squashua wrote: »
    Here is a good rule of thumb:

    If you do not own a HDTV or comparable large LCD monitor, do not buy a 360 or a PS3.
    That's a bit of a silly rule. HDTV's certainly enhance the experience, but only in very few games does not owning one actually hurt the experience.

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  • bruinbruin Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Squashua wrote: »
    Here is a good rule of thumb:

    If you do not own a HDTV or comparable large LCD monitor, do not buy a 360 or a PS3.

    This is bullshit. I've been playing my 360 on a 20" SDTV since launch and it looks fantastic. The games are still good no matter if the graphics look as nice as the possibly could.


    As for you, Katchem Ash, I'd say a DS is probably the best choice right now. It's had by far the best game releases in the last couple years of any platform, and it has/will have lots of games you'll be into. Wii is also a good choice, but probably not worth it right now considering your taste in games. 360 I'd wait on if I were you, for a new SKU or price drop. Blue Dragon and Eternal Sonata are both supposedly coming out in the first half of the year though, with Lost Odyssey to follow this fall/winter. Keep an eye out, I guess. PSP I'll probably never recommend, and PS3 is, in my opinion, definitely not worth picking up now or any time this year.

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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2007
    I do. I bought Rumble Roses and Harvest moon last time I checked wasn't a JRPG and neither are SRPG's. FPS aren't my thing because I don't like them and sports are not my thing unless I have some childhood memory for them, which is my I bought Legends of Westling II for the GC.

    DarkWarrior, how common is this complant on the 360?


    Well on Xmas Day, there were 23 unhappy families. Granted we probably sold a few hundred 360's over the xmas months but 23 at one store? Jesus.

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  • UnderHero5UnderHero5 Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I have a DS, PSP and Wii. My cousin has a 360 and is here every weekend with it, so I have experience with all but the PS3.

    My suggestion is the DS, by far. As much as I like my Wii, and as nice as the 360 is, I'm inclined to say my DS is the greatest gaming device I've ever owned. I absolutely love the thing. It's especially fun if you have a friend or friends who own one as well. Mutliplayer on it is great.

    Get the DS for now and spend the extra money you save on games for it!

    However, I realize not everyone has the same taste as me... so... yeah. I like quarky, silly games these days. So the DS has a lot that meet me needs (Ouenden, Wario Ware, Rocket Slime, Cooking Mama, Trauma Center, Animal Crossing, Nintendogs, etc). Of course it has some seriously awesome "normal" games as well (Advance Wars, New Super Mario Bros, Mario Kart, Metroid Prime Hunters).

    Get a DS!

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  • 4rch3nemy4rch3nemy Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    DS is my favorite system out right now. Later on, I'm guessing that the Wii will fit that bill.

    If you enjoy FPS games, get the 360.

    Ignore PS3 at the moment, as there aren't any games to warrant the buy until a long way down the line.

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  • PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Katchem_ash, I hate to have to ask this, but I feel I must.

    Are you fucking retarded?

    Do you really need to ask what system to buy every month? Is your memory that bad that you can't remember the answers you got in the last thread? Do you even listen?

    xbox360 is nt a jrpg machine lolol i wanna ps3 cuz it has all da jrpgs

    Christ, just stop asking and get your PS3 already.

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  • SaniusSanius Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Pancake wrote: »
    Katchem_ash, I hate to have to ask this, but I feel I must.

    Are you fucking retarded?

    Do you really need to ask what system to buy every month? Is your memory that bad that you can't remember the answers you got in the last thread? Do you even listen?

    xbox360 is nt a jrpg machine lolol i wanna ps3 cuz it has all da jrpgs

    Christ, just stop asking and get your PS3 already.
    Yeah, ash, I remember specifically you making a topic just like this one not too long ago.

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  • Anonymous RobotAnonymous Robot Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
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  • Katchem_ashKatchem_ash __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2007
    mcdermott wrote: »
    This is true. I was recommending under the assumption that you might one day venture out of your JRPG comfort zone. There is some decent JRPG goodness to be had on the DS, but there are also a lot of other great games to be had...a majority of which also have strong Japanese influences (which seems to be a must for you).

    I was just assuming that since you mentioned DOA that JRPGs weren't the only thing you play, but rather that you tend towards Japanese-style games in genearal (while leaning heavily towards JRPGs).

    Also, when talking about the DS library I'm also including the GBA library, but since you already have a GBA that might not make much sense...you're really only "gaining" the DS games, obviously.

    The thing with DOA is that, I personally want DOA:Beach Volleyball 1 & 2. The others in the series are also important because I can play with my brother. Norally we will play me in Tekken Tag or others in the Tekken series or Soul Caliber II for the GC. Other than that he doesn't play much anyway except for the occasional Zelda and FF.

    Obviously the 360 is important to me in this aspect that allows him and myself to play said fighting games. I don't have an extensive library and my brother owns all of the Tekken's we have in the house so something which does have a good use for fighting is the 360.

    As for Japanese style games, yeah I tend to go towards them rather than the NA style games. I seem to be intriged by the Cooking Mama game for the Wii which was reviewed in NewType as well as Blue Dragon for the 360 and Persona 3. I know that the PS2 was never the fighting machine and while the GC could have been, only Mortal Combat and Soul Caliber II was interesting enough for me.

    In short, something which allows be to play said Fighting games, play Said JRPG's/SRPG's and have a library of both in the present and near future.

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  • Anonymous RobotAnonymous Robot Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    The thing with DOA is that, I personally want DOA:Beach Volleyball 1 & 2. The others in the series are also important because I can play with my brother. Norally we will play me in Tekken Tag or others in the Tekken series or Soul Caliber II for the GC. Other than that he doesn't play much anyway except for the occasional Zelda and FF.

    Obviously the 360 is important to me in this aspect that allows him and myself to play said fighting games. I don't have an extensive library and my brother owns all of the Tekken's we have in the house so something which does have a good use for fighting is the 360.

    As for Japanese style games, yeah I tend to go towards them rather than the NA style games. I seem to be intriged by the Cooking Mama game for the Wii which was reviewed in NewType as well as Blue Dragon for the 360 and Persona 3. I know that the PS2 was never the fighting machine and while the GC could have been, only Mortal Combat and Soul Caliber II was interesting enough for me.

    In short, something which allows be to play said Fighting games, play Said JRPG's/SRPG's and have a library of both in the present and near future.

    I think you should try Guilty Gear. I think you would like it.

    Also, I don't want to get off topic, but what is it about JRPGs that you find so alluring?

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  • PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Also, I don't want to get off topic, but what is it about JRPGs that you find so alluring?
    They're Japanese.

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  • SquashuaSquashua __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2007
    ShimSham wrote: »
    That's a bit of a silly rule. HDTV's certainly enhance the experience, but only in very few games does not owning one actually hurt the experience.

    Have fun reading the text in Dead Rising.

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  • PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Squashua wrote: »
    Have fun reading the text in Dead Rising.
    That's a bit of a silly rule. HDTV's certainly enhance the experience, but only in very few games does not owning one actually hurt the experience.
    i dun liek reedin

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  • ShimShamShimSham Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    The thing with DOA is that, I personally want DOA:Beach Volleyball 1 & 2.
    Big fan of Volleyball huh?

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  • RainbowDespairRainbowDespair Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Squashua wrote: »
    Have fun reading the text in Dead Rising.

    Hence, he said ONLY IN A FEW games does not having an HDTV hurt the experience. The only games I've played where not having an HDTV hurt the experience are Dead Rising (and I still highly enjoyed the game despite having difficulty reading the text) and Enchant Arm (Then again, even on a good HDTV, the text can be difficult to read at times on that game).

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  • ben0207ben0207 Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
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    He raises an excellent point.

    And Ash: Just get your gorram PS3. You've already made the decision, you're just looking for others to the same one for you.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Hate to tell you, but if you're looking to really soak up all things Japanese as is your apparent mission in life, you're going to have to buy all five systems.

    Start saving your pennies.

    Edit: Unless you refuse to trade in filthy American money and convert everything to Yen. In which case, save that.

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