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New TV search

EclecticGrooveEclecticGroove Registered User regular
edited August 2011 in Help / Advice Forum
So, I'm looking to be in the market for a new TV. Currently I have an old Loewe Aconda 30'' tv. It's awesome to look at, but it's old, HUGE.
But, more importantly.. It has limited capability for new devices. It only supports 720P as a standard, and anything higher is essentially a really funky custom variation of 1xxx resolutions. One of the things I really love about it is its stellar black level, which is understandably hard to get on a flat panel.

Things of note that I'd like to do:
1) Used for DVD's and netflix most of the time.
2) While the 360 will be the primary system I have a bevvy of older systems I hook up at times. From the PS2 back to the Genesis. Any new TV needs to be able to handle some s video and composite input as well as component and HDMI/DVI.
3) I'd love to have this available as a secondary display for my PC (currently possible with mine but horrible low resolution).
4) I'd love to be able to do all of those without swapping a bunch of wires around all the time. Hooking up the older systems 1/2 at a time is perfectly acceptable however.

I've been looking around and there's plenty that has the raw specs, but it's hard to get a real world feel for them as even the show rooms have the settings crappy and limited info of use.


Anyone here have recommendations for something that would satisfy the above, look good, perform well, and be a decent build quality that won't break down? My Loewe has been going for about 7 years of pretty hard use.

Sizes are a minimum of 30 inch widescreen, but anything up to ~50 inches diagonal would work so long as it's not too much $$$,

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited August 2011
    What's your budget? That's the big question. "Not much $$$" can mean a lot of things.

    EDIT: I have a Sony Bravia KDL-40EX500 and I love it. ( http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-500-40-Inch-Black/dp/B0035ER1I2 )

    Great picture. Really solid. Easy to use. I'm an LCD fan personally. I had a plasma (a highly rated Panasonic) before the Sony and it literally tripled my power bill.

    I think you're going to have some issues finding much with S-Video nowadays. Though I'm sure there's probably some sort of adapter or hub you can get.

    Esh on
  • EsseeEssee The pinkest of hair. Victoria, BCRegistered User regular
    Samsung is typically one of the top brands when it comes to bang for your buck. Personally, my family has bought (after quite a bit of research) two from their LN... line, a LNxxA750 (the first one we bought) and later the LNxxB610 (two years later, from a newer line), where xx is just the screen size (40" for both of these, since we liked the size of the first one) and we absolutely adore both. They have beautiful picture, and they're both 1080p supporting 120Hz, which gives them the ability to turn on glorious smoothing that makes games and TV look absolutely amazing (if you like how it looks, which we do). They also have a nice, deep black on them, which you mentioned you liked on your old TV. When it comes to all those inputs you want to hook up... well, we've got a Wii, PS2, PS3, 360, and a computer (through HDMI cable + DVI-to-HDMI converter plug, although there exist DVI-to-HDMI cables as well) hooked up right now, and we could add my SNES if it weren't at another house right now. Ours have two component inputs (one of which supports composite, don't think the second one does) plus another composite input on the side that can indeed also do S-Video, so that would cover two things that only work with composite cables (the Genesis maybe? PS1/2, and every Nintendo system from SNES up through the Wii all have component cables that match, and using those makes them look better), and they have at least 3 HDMI slots each as well. For the computer, you can put the input on "game mode," which will turn off some of the bells and whistles but make sure there's no lag when you're playing something that requires precise reaction time on it (this is a good tip for any HDTV you buy, actually). Because the video card we're using only has DVI and doesn't even support sound through it, we've got the computer's sound connected to the TV through some cheap analog cables you can pick up at any Radio Shack or what-have-you, too.

    Basically, I highly recommend any of those LNA/B TVs, at least past LNA650 (they added new features at that point, although some of the units made before our LNA750 had a bit of trouble with build quality it seems), and we've been extremely happy with ours. I think it's been the general consensus over the last couple years that Samsung makes great TVs for a good price, the line I'm referring to in particular. I've also heard good things about Sony's TVs recently, too, that's true.

  • AurinAurin Registered User regular
    Get the television you like, then buy one of these: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Dynex%26%23153%3B+-+S-Video+A/V+Selector+Switch/6352298.p?id=1076628516373&skuId=6352298&st=switch&cp=1&lp=1. My Dad just bought a Samsung 240Hz and we were still able to hook up the old PS2 and the Nintendo. ;)

  • EclecticGrooveEclecticGroove Registered User regular
    Aurin wrote:
    Get the television you like, then buy one of these: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Dynex%26%23153%3B+-+S-Video+A/V+Selector+Switch/6352298.p?id=1076628516373&skuId=6352298&st=switch&cp=1&lp=1. My Dad just bought a Samsung 240Hz and we were still able to hook up the old PS2 and the Nintendo. ;)

    I have a switch like that, but I know some flat panels are absolutely terrible about upscaling content from analog sources other than Component (and some even with that).

    And I've been looking at some of the Samsung models, they look pretty good. the UNxxD6xxx line in specific is the one's I've been looking into.

    My price ranges are pretty lenient. ~2K USD is the most I'm looking to spend on a TV, but the lower the better if it's a quality TV.

  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    Aurin wrote:
    Get the television you like, then buy one of these: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Dynex%26%23153%3B+-+S-Video+A/V+Selector+Switch/6352298.p?id=1076628516373&skuId=6352298&st=switch&cp=1&lp=1. My Dad just bought a Samsung 240Hz and we were still able to hook up the old PS2 and the Nintendo. ;)

    I have a switch like that, but I know some flat panels are absolutely terrible about upscaling content from analog sources other than Component (and some even with that).

    And I've been looking at some of the Samsung models, they look pretty good. the UNxxD6xxx line in specific is the one's I've been looking into.

    My price ranges are pretty lenient. ~2K USD is the most I'm looking to spend on a TV, but the lower the better if it's a quality TV.

    2k is quite a bit. You can definitely go lower than that. I'd recommend looking at the "viewing distance chart" in the TV thread over in the technology sub-forum ( http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/141038/the-tv-thread-more-for-less/p1 ) to see the size you need.

    And yeah, your PS2 is going to look horrible on your new TV. I have an SNES hooked up to mine and that looks pretty good though since jaggies were par for course in the day.

  • EclecticGrooveEclecticGroove Registered User regular
    Esh wrote:
    2k is quite a bit. You can definitely go lower than that. I'd recommend looking at the "viewing distance chart" in the TV thread over in the technology sub-forum ( http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/141038/the-tv-thread-more-for-less/p1 ) to see the size you need.

    And yeah, your PS2 is going to look horrible on your new TV. I have an SNES hooked up to mine and that looks pretty good though since jaggies were par for course in the day.

    Yeah, I've used charts like that the 40 inch is pretty much my sweet spot for a 1080p TV. But I would not be adverse to a bit smaller or bigger depending on price/features.

    As for the PS2/Dreamcast and earlier systems, yeah I don't expect much out of that. I'm more worried about things like extreme latency from the upscaling. I've seen a few older LCD's that were so noticeable that the A/V was actually out of synch because of it.

    That's the sort of thing I don't really have a good way to check and need to rely on finding people that have tested/used various models. I doubt I could roll into a bestbuy with an old console and ask them if I could hook it up to each tv to test it out.

  • Skoal CatSkoal Cat Registered User regular
    Simple answers: Top brands are Samsung and Panasonic. Sony is good but buys their panels from other manufacturers now, so there is no reason to pay top dollar. LG has been making good waves. Vizio is your go to in the best budget set category.

  • EclecticGrooveEclecticGroove Registered User regular
    In case anyone was interested. update!

    So, after looking at various models and checking out a local b&m place with TV's on display, I wound up going with the Panasonic tc-p50gt30 plasma.

    I went with the plasma since the blacks looks much deeper on this than the LCD's I saw (not that they were bad), and the power use really isn't an issue since it is still using less than my old beast of a tube HDTV.
    Pricing was ~1400 and change after tax for a 50 inch. They had "free" shipping but a mandatory $99 basic instal fee, which was fine since it got it to my place and they helped me move my old TV (HEAVY and unwieldy) so all good.

    So far I like it, and the only complaint I had seen about this TV is in regards to it's an automatic function that adjusts brightness/contrast... which I've seen no evidence of so far all day today. It's possible this is the C.A.T.S function (disabled) and maybe older versions of the TV firmware didn't have the option to disable... but hey, so far I like it.

  • LiudnaLiudna Registered User new member
    Hello..Just bought new Samsung led tv...and as i found out it has very strange connecting ports on its back .it has plenty of usb and hdim ports...but only yellow and green plus one black which says audio...so i tried to plug in my Wii which came with standard i think yellow, red and white cable ends....so there is no ay i can connect them to my tv according the colors it has...so i'm really lost in how i can connect my wii?any help appreciated...i did research online...but could find answer hich can help...thanks...

  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited August 2011
    Liudna wrote:
    Hello..Just bought new Samsung led tv...and as i found out it has very strange connecting ports on its back .it has plenty of usb and hdim ports...but only yellow and green plus one black which says audio...so i tried to plug in my Wii which came with standard i think yellow, red and white cable ends....so there is no ay i can connect them to my tv according the colors it has...so i'm really lost in how i can connect my wii?any help appreciated...i did research online...but could find answer hich can help...thanks...

    What's the model of the TV?

    Esh on
  • MushroomStickMushroomStick Registered User regular
    edited August 2011
    A lot of the new Samsungs have these headphone jack looking ports that have adapters so you can hook up composite cables and such. I guess RCA plugs are too thick these days.

    MushroomStick on
  • EsseeEssee The pinkest of hair. Victoria, BCRegistered User regular
    Liudna wrote:
    Hello..Just bought new Samsung led tv...and as i found out it has very strange connecting ports on its back .it has plenty of usb and hdim ports...but only yellow and green plus one black which says audio...so i tried to plug in my Wii which came with standard i think yellow, red and white cable ends....so there is no ay i can connect them to my tv according the colors it has...so i'm really lost in how i can connect my wii?any help appreciated...i did research online...but could find answer hich can help...thanks...

    I don't know anything about your specific model, but based on my Samsung LCD TV, if there isn't a composite connection on the side of the TV, I think at least one of the component connections I assume is in the back (are they red/green/blue with the usual white/red for audio next to them? That's component, which would give better picture quality if you had the better cable for it) should work just like the yellow/red/white connection you're used to. Plug in the red and white plugs where the seperate red/white ones are, and then move the yellow around between the other three until you find the one that works. I think the last time I did this, it turned out to be the blue one that made it work? Not sure. Assuming this is correct, the source you're looking for on the TV should be labeled as AV1/2 (again, based on my own TV). If it doesn't show up in the source list, close and reopen the source menu, and/or turn the TV off and back on again.

    Otherwise, check your user manual. There should be a neat couple of pages where they show, and usually explain, every single one of the connections available on your TV.

  • EclecticGrooveEclecticGroove Registered User regular
    A lot of the new Samsungs have these headphone jack looking ports that have adapters so you can hook up composite cables and such. I guess RCA plugs are too thick these days.

    Like he said, check to see if you have 1 or two adapters that came with your TV. My new tv has combo jacks like this as well. You basically turn the composite video or component video into what most people would call headphone type adapters. Then those plug into the TV. It lets them reuse the same ports for both types but also have less ports on the TV. My component for instance merges all 3 video cables into 1, and then both audio cables into 1, resulting in 2 connections to the TV instead of of 5.

    For composite it would be the same 2 connections into the TV instead of the normal 3.

  • LiudnaLiudna Registered User new member
    tv model is 46C6000FHD LED...tv was bought from discounted shop....so didnt came with any additional plugs...so thats why i confused how to connect it...i thought to bought any extra components to connect...but i dont know what type is should be...i have tried to look on ebay or amazon...but it so many so dont know which one should be exactly...thanks...

  • EclecticGrooveEclecticGroove Registered User regular
    Honestly, I'd just contact samsung and ask what adapters it comes with normally and what their part numbers are. They may even sell them cheap. Even if not, that will let you find what you need online. You can try picking through google searches to find a listing of the part numbers you need, but they should be able to provide you that information pretty quickly.

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