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Looking for PS3 blu-ray feedback
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We just got our first HDTV, and we're loving it. But we want to start watching movies in HD, and since the players we'd buy are all at least $1200, a PS3 seems like the way to go, especially since Sony does firmware upgrades, which means I won't have to worry about compatibility issues like I would with other players. How is the PS3 as a Blu-Ray player?
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But, if you are set on the PS3 as a player, it certainly looks great. I would caution you, though, if you had an older TV as the DVD's don't scale to certain resolutions (instead defaulting to an uglier, lesser resolution). But if your TV can do 1080i/p you'll be just fine.
Of course, the usual "consoles as players" gripes apply, such as needing the controller to interface with the player, unless you investin the bluetooth remote. But I do appriciate the controller being wireless so it makes it someone palatable.
And it seems to upscale dvds to 720p, I tihnk. Mine don't look shit, and I cant imagine an SD think looking better.
The PS3 performs very well as a Blu-Ray player though.
I've seen 1080p movies on a Sony XBR2 LCD
but then we can talk about whether 1080p is needed for movies... and it's not.... 1080i out from component has the same exact picture... there's a lot of technobabble involved but the point is that movies are 24fps and using a pulldown method 1080i looks the same as 1080p for 24fps content
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So if you honestly are going to use a PS3 for games AND high-def movies, it's a good buy.
If I recall the problem was with 1080i sets. Instead of downgrading the signal to 720p, it downgraded it to 480p. And no, it hasn't been fixed.
At any rate, the problem doesn't affect 720 sets, so you're good.
I'm not sure what you're saying here, really? Are you saying that The Departed is better on Blu Ray than on HD-DVD?
If you can't go dual format, Blu Ray looks more like the way to go each day too, the content is really lining up behind that format.
I mean, everyone here remembers back when DVD players cost like $800 apiece, right? Now I can get one for thirty dollars.
Don't buy an HDMI cable at Walmart, either. Monoprice sells good ones for five dollars.
Seriously, who spends 30-40 dollars on a fucking cable? It's copper wrapped in rubber with plastic on each end, people, it's not some kind of super-sophisticated thing that costs $25-$35 to manufacture. There aren't even any chips in it or anything.
And don't anyone fucking start about high-quality cables. HDMI (being based off of DVI) carries a digital signal. You either have a perfect signal or, if the cable is actually broken, you have no picture. There is no in-between. Even for analog signals, "high-quality cables" are pretty much never worth the money.
Yes. And honestly, even with my glasses on I can't spot much of a difference between the two formats from across the room on a 42" TV, it just isn't big enough for the extra pixels to matter with my vision.
Btw, there's no such thing as 720i.
Not true. There's a bunch of CRT HDTVs out there from over 2 years ago that can only do interlaced video, no progressive scan, so those TVs are stuck with 1080i, 720i or 480i as their resolutions.
What you should have said was, "720i is rare, only old HDTVs that can't do progressive scan use it, and you won't see any 720i TV broadcasts as those are either 720p or 1080i".
I even remember reading about PS3 buyers who complained that since their TVs couldn't do progressive modes at all, the output of the console was automatically downgraded to 480i, without providing an option for 720i or 1080i.
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Are you SURE your TV is showing a true 1080p signal? There are tons of Tv's that will ACCEPT a 1080p signal, but not many plasmas at all will show 1080p aside from the Pioneer Elites. I was just at Panasonic's webpage, and there arn't any plasmas there listed to show true 1080p. Ive been in the TV industry for about 5 years, and havn't seen much for 1080p sets other than Pioneer in plasma.
After all, if Blu-Ray does win the format war I can imagine Microsoft (INCREDIBLY reluctantly) releasing a Blu-Ray add on for the 360.
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I have been researching this actually. The 360 goes like this (these are max resolutions):
Component
DVD: 480p does not upscale AT ALL
HD-DVD: 1080i
VGA
DVD: upscale
HD-DVD: 1080p
Also, from what I've heard, the PS3 is the best Blu-ray player on the market right now. Plus it's the cheapest.
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What the hell? Buy a 360 in the hopes that if Blu-ray does well, microsoft may possibly release a blu-ray addon? As un-fucking-likely as that already is, its still a poor idea. Im assuming he wants to watch HD movies now, not like, 3 years from now. Besides, by the time your solution is even practical, youll probably be able to get 90 dollar blu-ray/HD-DVD combo players.
Id say go with the 500 dollar PS3.
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I have to wonder about that. If that's true, what the hell is wrong with the other ones? Are the other companies completely incompetent, or is Sony making sure that other players are gimped in order to sell PS3s?
I don't know either. Frankly I'm against this format war entirely and refuse to purchase either.
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For image quality the PS3 over HDMI is bang on with my Toshiba HD-A2 HD-DVD player. They're both a notch up from my Xbox 360 HD-DVD add-on (over component - but given the connections, that's to be expected).
The real limitation of the Xbox 360 Add-on (currently, no telling what the future holds - patches, updates and the possibility that yes, Virginia, you WILL be able to play Beyond Good and Evil on your 360. Ahem. Still pissed about that.)
Er. As I was saying, the real limitation of the 360 add-on is the way it handles sound. Given that there's no HDMI you're limiting your options in the way of surround to DD mixes whereas the PS3 offers a full range of encoded audio throughputs, from DD to DD+ to uncompressed digital streams. (Note: Don't Cross the Streams)
I'm happy with the PS3 as a BD player; I had the opportunity to sample other players (the Panasonic, the Sony high end) and while they do add some crucial features for HT zealots (isolated sound circuitry via virtual battery, *serious* insulation and shock absorbtion) I don't think it'll make a difference that's worth the price of entry for most of us.
Final verdict - if you're going BD, go PS3. If you're going HD, while the 360 add-on is a decent option I'd still recommend spending the extra bucks and getting the HD-A2. The LG Super Multi Blue is out soon, but given its inability to process iHD (the interactive language for HD-DVD - which is one of the huge draws of HD-DVD) I'd skip that particular walrus.
Edit: The other BD players aren't "gimped" so much as they were rushed out the door. Mark my words - as consumers the two words that will be the bane of our existence over the next decade (and possibly beyond) are "firmware upgrade"; these legendary pieces of "no, it's good, we have something new to offer" provide manufacturers the opportunity to push a half finished product out the door. Given the option of bucks now, fix later or fix now, bucks later I think you can see what the major manufacturers will choose (which will weaken customer confidence, lead to a down turn in the economy, a rise in communism, cats and dogs - living together - MASS HYSTERIA).
Short version: They shipped BD before it was ready (hey, it's almost a Sony trademark at this point). However, you can poke most of them with a fork, they're ready now.
Most accurate post so far.
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There's also the fact that most new technology appeals to a small niche willing to pay high for new tech at first, so the other blu-ray players are sold at a decent profit. The PS3, while more complex and more expensive to manufacture, is having to instantly appeal to the mass market (as nearly all game consoles must do), so Sony's selling a machine that costs $900 to make for $600 in order to compete with the cheaper machines that don't (inherently) have next-gen DVD playback.