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What should I do?

YaitsajYaitsaj Registered User regular
edited August 2011 in Help / Advice Forum
So, I hope this doesn't make me come off like a asshole, because truly i'm not, but I need some advice.

Ill try and be concise:
I'm teaching in Korea right now and i've met a truly wonderful girl here. My contract ends in the end of Jan, her's ends in March. After that, it's almost for certain that we'll go our separate ways. We both know this, it has been briefly discussed.

Difficulty:
I have a lot of student loans and credit card debt. I'm getting a huge chunk of cash (about 5,000 dollars) at the end of this month. I love her.

We're talking about taking a vacation together in September. It'll cost about 2000 dollars, which I could use to eliminate one credit card. I'd really love to do it, I could use a vacation and it would be an amazing time together. Ultimately however, in 5 months it will just be a memory and the credit card will still be there, minus the minimum payments.

Do I go? Do I pay off the credit card so when I go home my life will be easier? There aren't very many chances in life where a chunk of money can buy you extreme happiness for a week, right?

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  • ParielPariel Registered User regular
    I would take long term happiness over short term happiness. For me, not being in debt would make me happier. How long will it take you to pay off the debt once you head home?

  • RocketSauceRocketSauce Registered User regular
    My Honeymoon didn't even cost $2000. Where are you going that is so expensive? Why not go somewhere cheaper?

  • ParielPariel Registered User regular
    You definitely fall on the cheap end then Rocket.

  • YaitsajYaitsaj Registered User regular
    The flight alone cost 1000 dollars.

  • ParielPariel Registered User regular
    edited August 2011
    How long is it going to take you to pay off your debt given your plans now? Is it going to keep looming over your head for the foreseeable future or do you have a plan to pay it off?

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  • EncEnc A Fool with Compassion Pronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered User regular
    Why not go the middle road and take a shorter, cheaper vacation? If you are both teaching in Korea, why not take a boat over to Japan or the Ryukul Islands? There are a ton of amazing places and substantially cheaper ways to get there. What is important is you and your friend, not where you go.

    Dropping a ton of cash on any vacation when you have a lot of debt is a bad call, as is calling off any sort of relationship because it could potentially end. You never know, you two might get together after, if either of you care to take the effort. If she is insisting on really expensive vacations over just spending time with you someplace nice, though, I wouldn't go at all.

  • SeñorAmorSeñorAmor !!! Registered User regular
    Keep in mind that not paying off the $2000 credit card bill right now means you'll be paying way more than $2000 in the future due to interest.

    Much as I'm sure the vacation would be fun, the smart choice is to postpone it while you pay off your debt.
    There aren't very many chances in life where a chunk of money can buy you extreme happiness for a week, right?

    It's not like your vacation destination is going away. It'll still be there when your debt is paid off. Besides, if it were me, I wouldn't enjoy the vacation because the whole time there I'd be second guessing myself for not paying the credit card off.

  • YaitsajYaitsaj Registered User regular
    The card will probably take me an additional year to pay off, realistically. I know 2,000 doesn't seem like a whole lot to pay down in a year, but with all the other bills and such, I can only put about 200 dollars or so towards it a month (with interest it'll be about a year).

  • The Crowing OneThe Crowing One Registered User regular
    edited August 2011
    From a purely financial point of you, you'd be crazy to spend that money on a luxury when you have debt that could be paid.

    Though I'd really think that it isn't all of the story. Your contract is up in January, and I assume that you probably don't have anything for certain lined up after that end. The only way to justify such spending would be if you knew that you'd have the earnings for it to be a small dent and not a rather large loss. Unless there's something unsaid, you don't have that luxury. If that $2k is something you'll make back in a week, not a big deal. If it's going to take you even a month and change, it's really irresponsible. You said you were "getting" the cash, and if that means a one-time deal it isn't even something that should be spent at all unless in emergency. The usual "windfall" advice still stands: when you come into a chunk of cash (and $5k is enough to bat a few eyelids) you want to invest it. In your case, you're investing in yourself by reducing your debt so that you can, in the future, hopefully begin making money off your money.

    You obviously want to spend time with this woman, so spend time with her. You don't need to spend thousands of dollars to do so. If you were to take $200-300 for something special, I think that's more justifiable.

    In the end you should pay off the debt. Even if only because the next time you want to do something like this you don't want to be in the same position.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    You should pay off your debt, and adjust your life in order to not be financially screwed in the short term. If going on the trip prevents you from paying rent, from meeting your normal bills, and from eating, then you don't really have a choice.

    If the difference is that the trip actually costs 30% more because you're paying interest? Hmmm.

    Consider it this way -- you are paying off your credit card, but you're immediately putting this trip back on the card. Maybe that helps to clarify it. Is going back into debt worth it? That's a better question, in my opinion.

    I'm not entirely sure how the girl comes into the equation. Are you dating each other? Are you looking for a relationship? Are you seeing this trip as the only chance you'll have to have sex with her? You need to answer yourself as to your real motivations for the trip.

    That being said, I don't think I've ever met someone who said "I wish I had traveled less," even those who were in debt.

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  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    Don't buy things you can't afford.

    What is this I don't even.
  • YaitsajYaitsaj Registered User regular
    Well guys, I decided to take your advice(s). Instead of a 2000 dollar trip i talked to her and we are taking a 400 dollar trip. Best of both worlds. Thanks to everyone who pit their input in.

  • rockmonkeyrockmonkey Little RockRegistered User regular
    Good for you. Wise choice. Perhaps between now and Jan. you could even skimp a little more and save up an extra $400.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Pay the card.

    Strictly speaking, you've been living in a foreign country for a long time. There is absolutely no reason you couldn't move to be with her, is there? It's not like you're not going to pick up your life at some point in the near future, why not settle it closer to where she lives? Unless of course the obvious is she's from the UK and you're from Canada or something.

    But, pay off your debt first. It's amazing how much money you have when you're not paying interest or loans. It may take you a year to pay off that $2000 credit card debt, but not having it means you might have $2000 in 1/4 a year.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • MagicToasterMagicToaster JapanRegistered User regular
    When you're done paying that debt. Keep putting that money into a bank account just as timely as if you were paying your card.

  • ToxTox I kill threads they/themRegistered User regular
    Yaitsaj wrote:
    Well guys, I decided to take your advice(s). Instead of a 2000 dollar trip i talked to her and we are taking a 400 dollar trip. Best of both worlds. Thanks to everyone who pit their input in.

    Good call :^: Sounds like you get the best of both worlds: a nice vacation together. And who knows, she could be the one! I know I'd pay waaay more than $2K to spend a week with the woman I'm going to spend the rest of my life with.
    When you're done paying that debt. Keep putting that money into a bank account just as timely as if you were paying your card.

    Also, this. The best way to stay out of debt is to continue to act like you're in debt. Until all of your debt is paid off, no less than 90% of the money you were paying on this card should go to the next debt issue. Rinse and repeat.

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