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Are 6 month college degrees worth it?

Glirk DientGlirk Dient Registered User regular
edited August 2011 in Help / Advice Forum
My step mom wants me to enroll in a community college that is offering a 6 month IT degree for $500 instead of a typical 2 year degree. She heard it on the news and not an infomercial so she is convinced that it's legitimate because they need to hire people badly. Is there any credibility to these programs? Are they worth anything in the job market?

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  • ElinElin Registered User regular
    It's probably not a degree per se, but a certificate course. I'm not in the IT field myself so I don't know if it would help or not. Some of the cert courses CC's offer are more of things you add on to an already going career rather than an entry level thing.

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  • Casually HardcoreCasually Hardcore Once an Asshole. Trying to be better. Registered User regular
    If the degree is accredited, and it gives you an Associates, then I see nothing wrong with it.

    I would, though, be worried about the transfer ability of credits if she wants to pursue a BS or BA.

  • Jimmy KingJimmy King Registered User regular
    Would need to see the actual program to give more input, but I would lean imagine a waste of time/money as far as directly getting a job goes.

    The vast majority of tech jobs that will hire you with 6 months of farily generic/general "training" would hire you without any training but it may give you a slight edge over those people, much like entry level certifications like A+. It will also count for basically nothing once you try to move beyond entry level jobs.

    That's not to say you won't learn anything. Depending on the courses, your current knowledge, and your general aptitude for this stuff you may learn some useful stuff or at least be pointed in the right direction to learn cool stuff.

  • Glirk DientGlirk Dient Registered User regular
    After looking into it more I think its a program to get into IT for health services. I am guessing that is the one she was talking about. If so it looks like it's meant for professionals to advance their careers and not something anyone can jump into. Oh well...I figured there was something off about it. It did sound too good(easy) to be true.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    I'm going to say no, just because most of those certifications are practically worthless anyways. Unless you're working for a big corp, there is little benefit to you personally for having certifications like that.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    After looking into it more I think its a program to get into IT for health services. I am guessing that is the one she was talking about. If so it looks like it's meant for professionals to advance their careers and not something anyone can jump into. Oh well...I figured there was something off about it. It did sound too good(easy) to be true.

    Probably some training in regards to HIPAA and IT in the workplace.

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  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    Get your associates. If you aren't getting an AA you are wasting your time.

  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    I'd even say an AA might be wasting your time and go straight for a bachelors if you don't have a local community college or in state school with reduced tuition.

    Avoid technical schools like the plague. That is my parting wisdom for you.

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  • Jimmy KingJimmy King Registered User regular
    Look into an AA transfer degree. What you need to watch out for are the A.A.S. which will initially catch your eye because they are less work and more of it focused on what you specifically like.

    If you can find a proper transfer degree, it basically lets you take many of your gen ed and early major related classes at CC rates and difficulty (usually easier than 4 year degrees, in my experience). I have a certificate from an community college (9 class program) that was basically a waste of time and money and am now in a proper CS program at a community college that lets me transfer to one of the local 4 year universities as a Junior, with all of the first 2 years of requirements taken care of for like 1/4 the cost.

  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    bowen wrote:
    I'd even say an AA might be wasting your time and go straight for a bachelors if you don't have a local community college or in state school with reduced tuition.

    Avoid technical schools like the plague. That is my parting wisdom for you.

    I don't disagree, but at least with an AA you're getting something and a lot of kids use that to transfer to state and get a BA.

  • Glirk DientGlirk Dient Registered User regular
    Currently I am going to a community college and working specifically on the Minnesota Transfer Curriculum. It is the 2 year generals that are guaranteed to transfer to any state school. With that I plan on transfering to the University of Minnesota and finish up my 4 year degree for IT. My step mom thinks that is a waste of money when I can get the same thing in 6 months for $500. I prefer the plan that isn't too good to be true and actually requires me to put effort forth and learn something.

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  • Jimmy KingJimmy King Registered User regular
    Yeah, there's not a chance that the 6 month deal is the same thing. These transfer programs have pretty specific requirements and I guarantee cramming 2 years of courses into 6 months isn't going to fly with the 4 year university.

  • JepheryJephery Registered User regular
    State universities usually have very good relationships with local employers. For example, the University of Texas has a job fair every semester, and company recruiters come to campus very often. I'd stick with your current plans for this reason.

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  • LilnoobsLilnoobs Alpha Queue Registered User regular
    Ask your mom how she thinks the program crams 4 years of college into 6 months. Magic?

  • ToxTox I kill threads they/themRegistered User regular
    Currently I am going to a community college and working specifically on the Minnesota Transfer Curriculum. It is the 2 year generals that are guaranteed to transfer to any state school. With that I plan on transfering to the University of Minnesota and finish up my 4 year degree for IT. My step mom thinks that is a waste of money when I can get the same thing in 6 months for $500. I prefer the plan that isn't too good to be true and actually requires me to put effort forth and learn something.

    I'm doing the same thing, although I'm working on both a Transfer program, and an AAS in Network Technology. This way I figure if the job market improves, I may be able to get something sooner, and can finish working on my transfer/4-year part time without having to incur quite as much debt.

    Transfer programs are insanely good ideas, I'm so glad states are developing them.

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  • NeitherHereNorThereNeitherHereNorThere Registered User regular
    Just look at how many credits are required to obtain this "degree". An AA is 60 credits, B.Sc is 120 or more for certain programs. There's no way you can accumulate 60 credits in 6 months.

    Unless you already have a solid degree, certificates aren't worth it IMO. They are worth it though afterwards, to show employers you continue your education, want to learn new things, etc.

  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    My step mom wants me to enroll in a community college that is offering a 6 month IT degree for $500 instead of a typical 2 year degree. She heard it on the news and not an infomercial so she is convinced that it's legitimate because they need to hire people badly. Is there any credibility to these programs? Are they worth anything in the job market?

    Not really.

    Frankly, AA's are barely worth anything except to funnel into a higher degree.

    HOWEVER, if your credits will count toward an AA then $500 is a hell of a good deal.

    I've heard many people suggest that taking basic courses at the CC level is a very wise choice to save tuition money.

    Just make sure this college is legit, fully accredited with the state, and so on. You'll want your credits to transfer to a state university.

    If so... sure... that's not a bad idea. Just don't expect it to land you a great job... do it to get on the first step to a higher degree.

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  • ToxTox I kill threads they/themRegistered User regular
    AAs in IT fields aren't actually terrible. Those, combined with some basic certifications, can give you exactly what a smaller company is looking for. Yeah, you're not going to be making six figures, but you're also not going to have as much headache. Right now a good friend of mine is pulling down about $60k. He got his AAS in Information Technology or something, spent four years with one small company, working on his MCSE Windows Server 2k3, moved to another company where he reports directly to the VP, and now he's finishing up his bachelors and plotting out his next move.

    Smaller companies that just don't need huge amounts of IT needs (like a small tire company, for instance), can save more money by employing one or two people on staff as IT people, rather than contract everything out to something like IBM. Business/Enterprise systems is obviously a good way to go.

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    Taking courses at your local CC and transferring to a larger uni to finish your BA is a great decision if your goal is to save money. Intro courses are substantially the same everywhere, and CCs are much less expensive (and generally tied into the state system so it's easy to transfer the credits.)

    Anyway OP, the main thing is to have a very good idea of what you're getting and how the cert/degree will be helpful to you beforehand. Something like an HIPAA training might be useful if your employer was asking you to retrain for it or something, but on it's own it's probably not that likely to open new doors for you.

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  • splashsplash Registered User regular
    edited August 2011
    I wouldn't go for the 6-month program. People that hire for IT/computer jobs want you to have a 4-year business or computer science degree. It's a major sign of your ability to commit and to accomplish major tasks/goals.

    But after that, a lot of employers (if they're smart) are most concerned with what specific skillset you possess and that you can demonstrate them. You can even self-teach yourself and as long as you put those skills into practice and have a degree they don't necessarily care if you took a class or not to get certain skills. So I'd also highly recommend taking as much as you can at CC to save money because computer skills are computer skills, it doesn't matter where you went but what you yourself put into learning.

    Plus as long as you have a degree it's then easy to go back and pick and choose whatever class or self-teaching you want to tailor yourself to getting hired for certain jobs.

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