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08/23/2011 - Anonymous
I was part of a group working on a big QA project and was lucky enough to have a friend working on that same team. On the way to a Halloween party, our boss called him and explained that this big, important title we had been working on for a year had been cancelled and that, unfortunately, he was no longer needed.
I remember at the time thinking this didn’t make a lot of sense given the size of the project, but with this new information in hand, the plan of a mellow, mid-week costume party turned into an all-night bender commiserating with my fellow unemployed friend.
In the morning, blurry eyed, I realized I had left some personal effects in my cubical and decided to head in to get my stuff. When I stumbled into the lab, still aching from the previous night’s debauchery, I found everyone hard at work. Indeed, when I asked “Aren’t we cancelled?” all I got in return were weird looks. The only one missing from the team was my friend.
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I am with you on this. I find it very poor practice not to call someone back after their interview to let them know their application wasn't successful.
This is not the same as just sending in an application, obviously, but I mean if you took the time to turn up to the interview, it should be a simple courtesy to get a call, E-mail, or letter back saying you didn't get the job.
By and large if a company didn't get back to me I like to think that I'd be pretty glad I didn't get the job anyway since it speaks volumes of their corporate culture.
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I think it's likely that his boss was just a total chickenshit.
Just, unable to say something as simple as "you're fired" and had to make up a story so that he's not to blame.
As a hiring manager for a very large corporation I have to say that sadly this is next to impossible.
For example, when we look for a new hire, I have to sift through over two-thousand applications. From those applications I tend to pull the top two-hundred for round 1 interviews. I spend a week on round 1, cut it down to 100, spend another week on round 2, cut it to 25. At round three I bring in another two managers to narrow it to my top five picks, then interview them all again with my boss. I'll normally hire one, but if somebody really stands out I'll take two. At the end I have two new employees making next to minimum wage that I need to spend a month training.
I don't have time to call two-hundred interviewees to tell them we're not moving forward. All I can do is tell interviewees that if they don't hear from me within 48 hours that we've decided not to continue the process.
Seriously... although I'm pretty sure the person who told the story let his friend know he got screwed, but even if he hadn't... I mean I'd be incredibly pissed, walking past a shelf at a game store and going, "Wait, what?"
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Where 'best' = 'most horrible'.
These stories depress me, but I just can't look away.
Also, lima bean shaped boss (Lima Boss?) is funny.
Not being notified is one of the reasons I have chosen not to re-apply to my company's network operations department. In that case it was even more annoying since I'm an employee of the company (The fact that the particular person hired instead of me was more than unqualified made it even worse).
at that point what does it matter?
And that story is just awful. What a terrible way to get fired.
Not a testing story, but in the sorta in the same vein (ie: released from a sucky job):
I worked at Books-a-Million whilst pursuing my second Bachelor's degree. After I graduated, I didn't really care to be there any more, but hadn't moved on yet. I got written up for drawing at the front counter and when asked to sign the write up report, I added in the comments section "I could not care less" (classy, I know). Anyway, I come back from X-mas vacation and I'm not on the schedule - only no one bothered to tell me this until I called in to ask what my hours were for the week. The general manager was flat out avoiding me. No one ever said to me "you're fired" or "we don't want you here anymore" or "we're letting you go," they just took my name off the schedule and hoped I'd get the hint.
In retrospect, it was probably a good thing - I've since moved on to make way more than they would ever pay - but at the time, it just felt really lame.
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When this happens, show back up and clock in. what are they going to do? fire you? They might of been doing this so they could write down you quit instead of having to offer services for firing you. You probably could of made out better if you were a dick about it.
Not getting called back does indeed suck, but I get it... like someone said they did 200 interviews for phase 1. I wait a day, send my "thanks for interviewing me" correspondence, and move on.
I can understand why no one does; there's basically no incentive whatsoever to do it. But by no means whatsoever is it technically infeasible.
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No. When this happens, you look for another job. You don't show back up and clock in, because you will get in trouble. You're not on the schedule to work that day, you're not working. Period. Strictly speaking, he wasn't fired. This is an easy trick that retail/food service use (we did it ALL THE TIME at Papa John's) to fire someone without actually "firing" them, so that they had no recourse for unemployment and the like.
What trouble will you get in?
What trouble can you get in, if you've already been, for all intents and purposes, fired?
I'm glad that this is outrageously illegal over here.
I'm pretty sure that in Washington at least, you can qualify for unemployment by just not getting enough hours.
your = belonging to you
their = belonging to them
there = not here
they're = they are
I prepare a second form letter noting why the candidates were chosen, if the applicants politely inquire as to how they might improve their chances in the future.
I wait a week and then I bulk mail that one to any who asked.
It is easy and it takes like 20 minutes to write both letters.
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That's because you're good people.
Take note, future managers, and remember what Khoo would do.
Maybe he works for the actual company though. I've only had experiences with contract agency managers when it comes to product testing.
I wish all the shitty firing stories weren't so true, but it just happened to me yesterday. Pretty much exactly what happened to @kingworks, except I can't think of anything I might have done to dissatisfy my supervisors. It's too bad so many employers come up with lies and excuses instead of being upfront and honest.
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It should be partially peeled.
On behalf of people who look for jobs, thank you. Double thank you, for the second email.
You too, Mr. Khoo.
your = belonging to you
their = belonging to them
there = not here
they're = they are
That is likely BAM's corporate policy, as that happened to a bloke when I worked there during college.
That makes you outstanding. And while it should be the example all businesses follow, it isn't. And it sucks that it isn't. But for now, that adds onto the awesomeness that is Khoo.
In the meanwhile, I stick with the usual plan of calling the places I apply to once in a while.
or that he wouldn't talk to any of his friends/co-workers?
"bummer about our project gettin cancelled huh"
".... what?"
If you go in for an actual interview and don't get hired, most places will send an email or postcard back I think..
For me lately the "interview" is all but a formality, since if I reach that point I've pretty much already got the job.
I can vouch for this firsthand.. regarding the Child's Play position.
(thanks... kinda!)
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This isn't 1887. You don't have to hand write each letter.
your = belonging to you
their = belonging to them
there = not here
they're = they are