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TV Tuner Card/device

Jebus314Jebus314 Registered User regular
I would like to get a tv tuner card/device for my HTPC. Just looking for people's experiences, tips, recommendations, what have you.

What I want:
1) dual tuner capability
2) ClearQAM tuners (through cable connection, so I'm assuming signal strength won't be an issue)
3) Compatibility with WMC on Windows 7

Cards/devices:
1) Hauppauge 2250. Good price, but I've heard some people have had issues with weaker signals (hopefully won't matter for me). Anyone used this card? Did it work well? Does the IR reciever play well with WMC?
2) HD HomeRun3. Everyone says it's the best, but I kind of like the built in ir blaster with the hauppauge.
3) Hauppauge 2650. Probably no one has this yet, but as it allows for using a cable card at a ridiculously cheap price I would totally get this one. However, I'm worried it won't be very stable so early in the release. So on the off chance that anyone got this right away, how is it?

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  • mcdermottmcdermott Registered User regular
    You express some interest in CableCard tuning, so while I'm willing to bet it's out of your price range I have the Ceton InfiniTV 4 and it is amazing. Yes, it's $300. But it's also an internal quad-tuner that only uses a single CableCard, and it works absolutely flawlessly in WMC. Including with extenders, such as the XB360.

    I have the internal version, I guess the USB version is coming out soon.

    Pulling the trigger on it hurt just a little bit, but honestly I've not regretted it once since.

  • Jebus314Jebus314 Registered User regular
    mcdermott wrote:
    You express some interest in CableCard tuning, so while I'm willing to bet it's out of your price range I have the Ceton InfiniTV 4 and it is amazing. Yes, it's $300. But it's also an internal quad-tuner that only uses a single CableCard, and it works absolutely flawlessly in WMC. Including with extenders, such as the XB360.

    I have the internal version, I guess the USB version is coming out soon.

    Pulling the trigger on it hurt just a little bit, but honestly I've not regretted it once since.

    Yeah, if I had the cash the ceton is definitely what I would buy. I was hoping I could get away with half the price on the hauppauge 2650, but I'm hesitant to buy so early in the cycle. I've already read a few things about driver problems (apparently it doesn't work with tuning adapters yet, which may or may not matter since I can't figure out if seattle has SDV).

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  • bigwahbigwah Registered User regular
    I'd second the Ceton. Depending on your area and your provider, you may not get anything through ClearQAM. Also, over the air is bad in some areas (like mine!)

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  • mcdermottmcdermott Registered User regular
    The only stations in got through clearqam on comcast were my local ota networks. Which they're (iirc) required to rebroadcast. Nothing else.

  • bigwahbigwah Registered User regular
    mcdermott wrote:
    The only stations in got through clearqam on comcast were my local ota networks. Which they're (iirc) required to rebroadcast. Nothing else.

    Same, immediately returned the card once I found that out.

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  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    If you go CableCard, might as well consider the HDHomeRun Prime. It does the same stuff that the Ceton InfiniTV would do, except externally and $50 cheaper.

  • bigwahbigwah Registered User regular
    TBH any of the cablecard devices are nice. Ceton has 2 models now (new USB one) and I believe someone is making another to add to the mix.

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    "Was cursing, in broken english at his team, and at our team. made fun of dead family members and mentioned he had sex with a dog."
    "Hope he dies tbh but a ban would do."
  • Jebus314Jebus314 Registered User regular
    Yeah, I'm well aware that the only clearQAM channels are the local channels. I've been thinking about switching to just local + netflix + hulu/network streaming. The only problem is I just can't justify to myself the 250-300 price for the ceton or HDHR prime when I can get the HD DVR from comcast for 15/month, and get ondemand. Has anyone tried using the non DVR comcast box, with a clearQAM card, and using a Ir blaster? How shitty is this setup?

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  • bigwahbigwah Registered User regular
    From what I've heard/seen, its not to bad with unless you are using the HD cards to pull in HD channels.

    Also, you can access Comcast on demand over the internet. I personally dont even need to, since if I want to watch something, I just record it (ie I record a ton of stuff)

    LoL Tribunal:
    "Was cursing, in broken english at his team, and at our team. made fun of dead family members and mentioned he had sex with a dog."
    "Hope he dies tbh but a ban would do."
  • mcdermottmcdermott Registered User regular
    edited September 2011
    If you go CableCard, might as well consider the HDHomeRun Prime. It does the same stuff that the Ceton InfiniTV would do, except externally and $50 cheaper.

    True, though with one less tuner (3 versus 4).

    But after six months, I'm pretty sure I've yet to max out my tuners on the Ceton. I imagine you could, and would, if you were using it with multiple people and in multiple rooms with extenders.

    Personally I prefer internal too, but that's just me. Ceton has an external in the pipe (comes out this month), but it'll still cost more. I'd bet dollars to pesos that the HDHR Prime is part of the reason Ceton has dropped their prices. When I picked mine up, it was (to my knowledge) the only item currently on the market.

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  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    Yeah I only maxxed out my tuners on my InfiniTV when I was sharing them over network to other computers. Found that approach to be kind of buggy, though, so now I just have all 4 tuners on the media center and if I want to watch TV on another computer, I'll just watch the recording.

  • BeltaineBeltaine BOO BOO DOO DE DOORegistered User regular
    I've ordered an HD Homerun. Will let you know how it goes.

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  • iTunesIsEviliTunesIsEvil Cornfield? Cornfield.Registered User regular
    edited September 2011
    This is interesting... if I were to get one of these (the Ceton things) I'd have to keep my HD box and plan and all that from Comcast, right? I assume I would, or the CableCARD itself wouldn't pick up the HD channels, right?

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  • bigwahbigwah Registered User regular
    Thats the whole point of the cablecard stuff, no box! Only thing you lose is OnDemand. (which you can still get over the internet).

    LoL Tribunal:
    "Was cursing, in broken english at his team, and at our team. made fun of dead family members and mentioned he had sex with a dog."
    "Hope he dies tbh but a ban would do."
  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    Yeah, with Comcast you'd return your HD Box then get a M-CableCard from them. Depending on how many other cable boxes you have, this will probably lower your cable bill a little bit. I think my bill dropped around $8/month.

  • mcdermottmcdermott Registered User regular
    All you pay for is the CableCard (which you were already paying for as part of the box). I believe my charge for a four-tuner CableCard is $2.

    Compared to like $15 for an HD-DVR box.

    And I don't really miss OnDemand. Partly because the same HTPC that acts as my DVR can also do NetFlix, Hulu, and any other online video source.

    Plus I have virtually unlimited space, thanks to the 4TB RAID I have on my network. But that may be overkill. 20 hours of HD recording space? Blow me.

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