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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Rolo wrote:
    the preference for "real" cameras over iphones is something that seems inherently justified to us and will seem like a needless, stodgy and nonsensical distinction in the future

    not until we dramatically alter the properties of how photons interact with matter

    are you fakeposter

    nah

    You actually need a decent size photosensitive sensor, and a decent-sized lens, to take in enough light for the kind of detail you get from DSLR cameras. There's not much you can do to change this, even with backlighting the iphone's CCD sensor or adding more tiny lens elements.

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    Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited October 2011
    Rolo wrote:
    Rolo wrote:
    the preference for "real" cameras over iphones is something that seems inherently justified to us and will seem like a needless, stodgy and nonsensical distinction in the future

    not until we dramatically alter the properties of how photons interact with matter

    are you fakeposter

    nah

    You actually need a decent size photosensitive sensor, and a decent-sized lens, to take in enough light for the kind of detail you get from DSLR cameras. There's not much you can do to change this, even with backlighting the iphone's CCD sensor or adding more tiny lens elements.

    that doesn't matter at all, at all

    it's not that iphones will eclipse dslr at doing what dslrs do, it's that the standards which we use to ascertain the value of a photo will shift to benefit those who use iphone cameras

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    AneurhythmiaAneurhythmia Registered User regular
    Oh man, siriously?

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    T4CTT4CT BAFTA-NOMINATED NAFTA-APPROVEDRegistered User regular
    Oh man, siriously?

    what have you done

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    ronzoronzo Registered User regular
    Oh man, siriously?

    ahahahaha :^:

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    Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    Siri seems like a neat feature no one will use because talking to a device that's in your hand already instead of just pushing a button is for crazy people.

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    Lawinator you ask TOO MUCH

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    ronzoronzo Registered User regular
    3 of the 4 livestreams I am using just crashed

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    Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    uh excuse me larlar it is clearly the iphone 4s and apple's lawyers will be having a word with you momentarily

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    LarlarLarlar consecutive normal brunches Moderator, ClubPA mod
    maybe the iphone 5 is so powerful it can take down the internet

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    ronzoronzo Registered User regular
    Siri seems like a neat feature no one will use because talking to a device that's in your hand already instead of just pushing a button is for crazy people.

    it should be awesome for driving. No more almost dying trying to put in an address, or sending a text.

    Also, this is basically the coolest thing ever for blind people

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    Time to notify my first-born the bad news

    (for him)

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    Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    ronzo wrote:
    Siri seems like a neat feature no one will use because talking to a device that's in your hand already instead of just pushing a button is for crazy people.

    it should be awesome for driving. No more almost dying trying to put in an address, or sending a text.

    Also, this is basically the coolest thing ever for blind people

    Yeah, you're right, for cars this would be pretty amazing. Texting though would depend on how good the dictation software is.

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    ronzoronzo Registered User regular
    edited October 2011
    Apple wrote:
    Scott's creating a reminder "Remind me to call my wife when I leave work." Siri asks to confirm and makes the reminder. Siri already knew who his wife is and set up a geofence around work.

    This is pretty neat

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    Siri is a bit self-defeating. It'd be nice for when I quickly need to do something, but when I'm in a hurry I'll probably speak too fast for it to understand what I want.

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Rolo wrote:
    Rolo wrote:
    the preference for "real" cameras over iphones is something that seems inherently justified to us and will seem like a needless, stodgy and nonsensical distinction in the future

    not until we dramatically alter the properties of how photons interact with matter

    are you fakeposter

    nah

    You actually need a decent size photosensitive sensor, and a decent-sized lens, to take in enough light for the kind of detail you get from DSLR cameras. There's not much you can do to change this, even with backlighting the iphone's CCD sensor or adding more tiny lens elements.

    that doesn't matter at all, at all

    it's not that iphones will eclipse dslr at doing what dslrs do, it's that the standards which we use to ascertain the value of a photo will shift to benefit those who use iphone cameras

    I don't think you can really divorce subject matter from production quality in photography, as least not entirely.

    And the people with the DSLRs are going to be the ones who are most invested in both, anyway.

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    BeastehBeasteh THAT WOULD NOT KILL DRACULARegistered User regular
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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Beasteh wrote:

    I love this

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    LarlarLarlar consecutive normal brunches Moderator, ClubPA mod
    Rorus Raz wrote:
    Siri is a bit self-defeating. It'd be nice for when I quickly need to do something, but when I'm in a hurry I'll probably speak too fast for it to understand what I want.

    you'd be surprised

    back when it was an independent app it was pretty fucking awesome

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    Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    I would love if that's actually what happened

    quick bullet point of new features, no pointless statistic-fudging graphs that assume your audience is incapable of logic, less self-wankery

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    ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    So no new iPod touch just a new color?

    PSN: idontworkhere582 | CFN: idontworkhere | Steam: lordbutters | Amazon Wishlist
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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Siri search [tiny]big black boners 7[/tiny] and download to my icloud please

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    Well Larlar, I talk really fast to the point where people don't understand me except my family. Like, I've had situations where my brother is like C-3PO translating my beeps.

    It looks cool, but what is the cost?

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    oh god the tags don't work anymore

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    mrt144mrt144 King of the Numbernames Registered User regular
    it's weird that they wouldn't even TRY to label the y-axis there

    I mean, for all we know, the y-axis could be "registered users on flickr that own iphones"

    Keynote just sucks that bad.

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    Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    Rorus Raz wrote:
    Well Larlar, I talk really fast to the point where people don't understand me except my family. Like, I've had situations where my brother is like C-3PO translating my beeps.

    It looks cool, but what is the cost?

    well you could always learn to talk coherently

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    BeastehBeasteh THAT WOULD NOT KILL DRACULARegistered User regular
    i cant get tinytext to work either

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    Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    I'm gonna stick with Android

    I just don't like iOS

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    Rorus Raz wrote:
    Well Larlar, I talk really fast to the point where people don't understand me except my family. Like, I've had situations where my brother is like C-3PO translating my beeps.

    It looks cool, but what is the cost?
    well you could always learn to talk coherently
    But that's hard.

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    so let's see if there's some super special surprise announcement

    or if this is it

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    KrunkMcGrunkKrunkMcGrunk Registered User regular
    haven't been paying attention to any streams, just popping in here and on twitter every few minutes.

    Is siri basically apple's version of the computer from Star Trek TNG?

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    Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    Siri seems the biggest reason to get an iphone 4S, at least from what I've seen so far. Dictation for texts on the road would be really rad.

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    ronzoronzo Registered User regular
    The Siri tech is pretty wild in that it follows along with what you say. You might ask it to make an appointment for you, and if you have something scheduled, it will tell you and ask if you want to move it.

    Again, very neat.

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    AneurhythmiaAneurhythmia Registered User regular
    that doesn't matter at all, at all

    it's not that iphones will eclipse dslr at doing what dslrs do, it's that the standards which we use to ascertain the value of a photo will shift to benefit those who use iphone cameras

    Just like they did for Polaroids?

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    ronzoronzo Registered User regular
    edited October 2011
    Rolo wrote:
    so let's see if there's some super special surprise announcement

    or if this is it
    Basically just waiting on price/capacity/carriers now. And when its available

    edit: $400 64GB iPhone
    edit2: 3gs free on contract, 4 is $100

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    nevilleneville The Worst Gay (Seriously. The Worst!)Registered User regular
    incremental releases make me sad

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    Whoa 3GS is free with contract?

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Black and white versions 16GB: $199, 32GB for $299, 64GB for $399.

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    Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    16 GB for 199$ seems the best deal so far. 100 bucks more for all the new 4S features and double the space.

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    Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    that doesn't matter at all, at all

    it's not that iphones will eclipse dslr at doing what dslrs do, it's that the standards which we use to ascertain the value of a photo will shift to benefit those who use iphone cameras

    Just like they did for Polaroids?

    just like what did

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