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Fucking chimps with spears

Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worsebefore it gets any better.Registered User regular
edited February 2007 in Social Entropy++
WASHINGTON (Feb. 22) - Chimpanzees have been seen using spears to hunt bush babies, U.S. researchers said on Thursday in a study that demonstrates a whole new level of tool use and planning by our closest living relatives.
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Perhaps even more intriguing, it was only the females who fashioned and used the wooden spears, Jill Pruetz and Paco Bertolani of Iowa State University reported.

Bertolani saw an adolescent female chimp use a spear to stab a bush baby as it slept in a tree hollow, pull it out and eat it.

Pruetz and Bertolani, now at Cambridge University in Britain, had been watching the Fongoli community of savanna-dwelling chimpanzees in southeastern Senegal.

The chimps apparently had to invent new ways to gather food because they live in an unusual area for their species, the researchers report in the journal Current Biology.

"This is just an innovative way of having to make up for a pretty harsh environment," Pruetz said in a telephone interview. The chimps must come down from trees to gather food and rest in dry caves during the hot season.

"It is similar to what we say about early hominids that lived maybe 6 million years ago and were basically the precursors to humans."

Chimpanzees are genetically the closest living relatives to human beings, sharing more than 98 percent of our DNA. Scientists believe the precursors to chimps and humans split off from a common ancestor about 7 million years ago.

Chimps are known to use tools to crack open nuts and fish for termites. Some birds use tools, as do other animals such as gorillas, orangutans and even naked mole rats.

But the sophisticated use of a tool to hunt with had never been seen.

Pruetz thought it was a fluke when Bertolani saw the adolescent female hunt and kill the bush baby, a tiny nocturnal primate.

But then she saw almost the same thing. "I saw the behavior over the course of 19 days almost daily," she said.

PLANNING AND FORESIGHT

The chimps choose a branch, strip it of leaves and twigs, trim it down to a stable size and then chew the ends to a point. Then they use it to stab into holes where bush babies might be sleeping.

It is not a highly successful method of hunting. They only ever saw one chimpanzee succeed in getting a bush baby once. The apes mostly eat fruit, bark and legumes.

Part of the problem is this group of chimps is shy of humans, and the females, who seem to do most of this type of hunting, are especially wary. "I am willing to bet the females do it even more than we have seen," she said.

Pruetz noted that male chimps never used the spears. She believes the males use their greater strength and size to grab food and kill prey more easily, so the females must come up with other methods.

"That to me was just as intriguing if not even more so," Pruetz said.

The spear-hunting occurred when the group was foraging together, again unchimplike behavior that might produce more competition between males and females, she said.

Maybe females invented weapons for hunting, Pruetz said.

"The observation that individuals hunting with tools include females and immature chimpanzees suggests that we should rethink traditional explanations for the evolution of such behavior in our own lineage," she concluded in her paper.

"The multiple steps taken by Fongoli chimpanzees in making tools to dispatch mammalian prey involve the kind of foresight and intellectual complexity that most likely typified early human relatives."

tl;dr Holy shit, fucking chimpanzees use spears now, we're fucked.

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  • HelloHello Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    that's alright that's ok

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  • ferrets54ferrets54 Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Man. Now it really does seem wrong to make ash trays out of their hands.

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  • Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    At first I was kind of impressed, and then I realized that chimps totally own humans one on one without spears. D:

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  • Wrench N RocketsWrench N Rockets Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    It's not chimps we need to worry about.

    It's penguins.

    God help us if penguins develop opposable thumbs.

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  • GOJIRA!GOJIRA! Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    It's not chimps we need to worry about.

    It's penguins.

    God help us if penguins develop opposable thumbs.


    Or thumbs.

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  • Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Down south, at the Mountains of Madness... waiting.

    Wow, clumsily made reference, that.

    Also, chimps have been known to hunt down lone members of rival chimp troops and beat them to death, then tear their genitals off.

    D:

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  • HelloHello Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    GOJIRA! wrote: »
    It's not chimps we need to worry about.

    It's penguins.

    God help us if penguins develop opposable thumbs.


    Or thumbs.

    what about thumbs

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  • Wise_aWise_a Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Is this thread about Britney Spears too?

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  • lostwordslostwords Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Man, this thread title was so misleading the way I read it. I was all ready for some bestiality snuff film or something.

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  • Wrench N RocketsWrench N Rockets Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Hello wrote: »
    GOJIRA! wrote: »
    It's not chimps we need to worry about.

    It's penguins.

    God help us if penguins develop opposable thumbs.


    Or thumbs.

    what about thumbs

    Yeah, I don't know what's going on here.

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  • Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Sorry to disapoint? :neutral:

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  • ToadTheMushroomToadTheMushroom Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Wise_a wrote: »
    Is this thread about Britney Spears too?

    She is The 'Best PR in Years'.








    Think about it.

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  • HelloHello Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Hello wrote: »
    GOJIRA! wrote: »
    It's not chimps we need to worry about.

    It's penguins.

    God help us if penguins develop opposable thumbs.


    Or thumbs.

    what about thumbs

    Yeah, I don't know what's going on here.

    thumbs, bro, thumbs

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  • Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I'm waiting for her to kill herself, or announce she's a lesbian. Or, perhaps most shocking of all, get some class.

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  • Wrench N RocketsWrench N Rockets Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Hello wrote: »
    Hello wrote: »
    GOJIRA! wrote: »
    It's not chimps we need to worry about.

    It's penguins.

    God help us if penguins develop opposable thumbs.


    Or thumbs.

    what about thumbs

    Yeah, I don't know what's going on here.

    thumbs, bro, thumbs

    Well yeah, that's a given.

    I like my thumbs.

    All letting me hold things.

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  • HelloHello Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Hello wrote: »
    Hello wrote: »
    GOJIRA! wrote: »
    It's not chimps we need to worry about.

    It's penguins.

    God help us if penguins develop opposable thumbs.


    Or thumbs.

    what about thumbs

    Yeah, I don't know what's going on here.

    thumbs, bro, thumbs

    Well yeah, that's a given.

    I like my thumbs.

    All letting me hold things.

    THINK ABOUT IT

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  • Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Hello wrote: »
    Hello wrote: »
    Hello wrote: »
    GOJIRA! wrote: »
    It's not chimps we need to worry about.

    It's penguins.

    God help us if penguins develop opposable thumbs.


    Or thumbs.

    what about thumbs

    Yeah, I don't know what's going on here.

    thumbs, bro, thumbs

    Well yeah, that's a given.

    I like my thumbs.

    All letting me hold things.

    Space helicopter
    THINK ABOUT IT

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  • SpongeCakeSpongeCake Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Who locked my adopted threaHOLY SHIT

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  • HelloHello Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    i did

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  • Wrench N RocketsWrench N Rockets Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Hello wrote: »
    Hello wrote: »
    Hello wrote: »
    GOJIRA! wrote: »
    It's not chimps we need to worry about.

    It's penguins.

    God help us if penguins develop opposable thumbs.


    Or thumbs.

    what about thumbs

    Yeah, I don't know what's going on here.

    thumbs, bro, thumbs

    Well yeah, that's a given.

    I like my thumbs.

    All letting me hold things.

    Space helicopter
    THINK ABOUT IT

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  • oogmaroogmar Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    THEY'RE STABBING BUSH BABIES?!?!?!

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    Oh bush babies... if only you were less edible. :(

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    Rane, you lazy bastard, you can shut the hell up.

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  • Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Maybe if they weren't so busy evolving to be exceptionally adorable they'd have developed some fucking useful traits. Like not being delicious.


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  • TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Oh, we are proper fucked.

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  • Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Especially with those crazy goddamn penguins and their guns and their Communist landmarks.

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  • StoverStover Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I originally thought it said "Chimpanzees have been using spears to hunt babies."

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  • oogmaroogmar Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Stover wrote: »
    I originally thought it said "Chimpanzees have been using spears to hunt babies."

    Not nearly as disturbing as killing BUSH babies.

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    Rane, you lazy bastard, you can shut the hell up.

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  • Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    They have. Just... y'know... babies of the bush variety. Which, I suppose, all babies are technically... unless they're reptilian. Or platypi... fucking platypi...

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  • Wrench N RocketsWrench N Rockets Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
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  • Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    ... Guns don't kill people. People kill people.*


    And monkey's do too if they've got a gun.

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  • HelloHello Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    chimpanzees raped my father and killed my mother

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  • ferrets54ferrets54 Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Where did you get this news story from?

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  • SpongeCakeSpongeCake Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    It's on the BBC website right this very second. Read it before it's all read out!

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  • Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    AOL Main page news dealy. And the BBC website through linkz.

    The pic is from the BBC website.

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  • SpongeCakeSpongeCake Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    There's also one about the MoD doing experiments to measure psychic powers.

    Our nation's security is in good hands.

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  • Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    And you'd have your foot in your mouth if the research turned out some crazy fucking British super-soldiers.

    I tried to find a picture of the psychic guy from Starship Troopers with the Brain Bug being all "IT'S AFRAID", but GIS failed me.

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  • SilmarilSilmaril Mr Ha Ha Hapless. Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    You mean Dougie Howser?

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  • MenaceMenace regular
    edited February 2007
    what happened to all those chimpanzees reenacting movies?

    those were awesome

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  • SilmarilSilmaril Mr Ha Ha Hapless. Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I miss the Chimps from the PG Tips ads.

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  • MenaceMenace regular
    edited February 2007
    Menace wrote: »
    what happened to all those chimpanzees reenacting movies?

    those were awesome

    aha!

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  • South hostSouth host I obey without question Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    And you'd have your foot in your mouth if the research turned out some crazy fucking British super-soldiers.

    I tried to find a picture of the psychic guy from Starship Troopers with the Brain Bug being all "IT'S AFRAID", but GIS failed me.
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    Close enough.

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