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Girl Problems (warning: some drug references)

TB1TB1 Registered User new member
edited October 2011 in Help / Advice Forum
I'm having some problems with my girlfriend. We're both 20, in school. It's my first relationship, it's her third.

We got together ~7 months ago, and we had a great time. I recently transferred schools and at first we didn't think we wanted to do the long-distance thing, but about a week or two ago we decided to give it a shot. We thought it might work because we're not continents apart - I visit her every month or so. We have things planned out several months in the future for when we can see each other again.

There are some things that worry me, though. My biggest beef with her is that she is (in her words) "blunt". I try to be more diplomatic about things but I feel that I still get my point across; I try to understand different perspectives and give people leeway. She views this as me being a doormat. As an example, a friend of mine recently broke my bong on accident; I brushed it off as no big deal. It's still functional and I don't really smoke anymore, it was an accident, and the guy that broke it is my friend. She says she would be pissed, but I just sort of let it go.

The upshot of this, and how it relates to me, is that I feel that she criticizes me constantly. However, she is honestly, objectively right about a lot of the things she is critical about. For example, I'm not responsible with money, and she basically verbally abused me into saving money and being more responsible. I feel that this is a worthy goal (being more responsible) but that she could have been less blunt about it - she says this is "sugarcoating it" and thinks it's pointless/stupid. She says she has my best interests in mind and that she loves me - things that I 100% believe to be true.

Like I said, I haven't smoked in a while. I voluntarily quit smoking weed for about a month, and I was thinking about smoking again, maybe once every 1-2 weeks. She, however, does not think I should, and basically gave me an ultimatum last night saying that it's either weed or her.

I don't give a flying fuck about weed. I could never smoke again and be perfectly happy. But the ultimatum really pissed me off. Again, it's her being "blunt" - if she had said that it was important to her for me to quit, please quit, etc, I think I would have probably quit with no problem.

We have talked about her being blunt, and she says it's just her personality, and she will try to be less blunt about small stuff that bothers her, but in general if I don't like it then it's not going to work.

What this boils down to, I think, is that she is just more of a "tough love" kind of person, whereas I am the complete opposite. I honestly think that she should be more like me, and I should be more like her (ie, meet in the middle).

Are we simply incompatable? I don't know what to do.

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  • V1mV1m Registered User regular
    Since she prizes "not sugarcoating" things so much, tell her to either stop giving you orders or pack her shit up and get out.

  • IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    How are you defining verbally abusive, here? If shes brash and inappropriate, degrading you, and making you feel terrible about yourself, then yes, you should get away from her. If she doesnt want her partner smoking weed and said "listen Im not into having a partner that smokes, its a deal breaker" and you're mad she didnt put a "so please sweetheart" on the end, you maybe just sound incompatible. I'm not saying she shouldn't figure out where to balance her strait forwardness with social graces and politeness, but its not your job, and if she considers it "her nature" she probably doesn't plan on really changing.

  • TB1TB1 Registered User new member
    edited October 2011
    The conversation on skype last night basically went like this (we skype every day, usually 2-3 times a day):

    Me: So I think I'm going to start smoking again, like maybe once every week or two.
    Her: Fine, you can smoke and we can schedule a time once a week for us to talk when I know you're not going to be high and you can do whatever the fuck you want the rest of the time.
    Me: Uhh, what? It's not that big of a deal. What about if I told you ahead of time that I was going to smoke? Or on a certain day of the week I would potentially smoke?
    Her: No.

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  • IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    if she is terminally unreasonable I recommend breaking it off. You are 20 and in school, you'll be able to find something else. If you feel like she had good points for your self improvement, take it upon yourself to work at them while single for your own sake, but don't suffer through constant failed communication just because a little push benefits you here and there.

  • SneakertSneakert Registered User regular
    Strangely, she wants you to stop being a doormat, but treats you like one herself. I don't understand why you felt the need to explicity tell her you're thinking about smoking weed again. It sounds like you were asking permission (doormat behavior). But okay, what's done is done.

    In my opinion, if you want to smoke weed just go for it. Don't let her dictate your life, specially not in a long distance relationship. Ironically you'll be doing what she says you should; stop being a doormat.

    I disagree with her saying you should be mad at your friend for breaking a bong though. Accidents happen and holding a grudge won't make anyone happy.

  • LeptonLepton Registered User regular
    I don't give a flying fuck about weed. I could never smoke again and be perfectly happy. But the ultimatum really pissed me off. Again, it's her being "blunt" - if she had said that it was important to her for me to quit, please quit, etc, I think I would have probably quit with no problem.

    If you could not smoke again and be happy, why do you want to start again? Is it for the social aspect? I'm assuming you live in the USA, where marijuana is illegal, and it costs money in any case.

  • Aurora BorealisAurora Borealis runs and runs and runs away BrooklynRegistered User regular
    That skype conversation makes me think that she doesn't care if you smoke, she just doesn't want to talk to you when you are high. Which is not an unreasonable proposition. It is really annoying to try and have a decent productive conversation when one person is sober and the other is not.

    That being said, it is entirely possible that the two of you are incompatible. You are 20. That means you are but mewling babes when it comes to relationships, and the odds that you will stay together long term are not good. Learn what you can from this relationship, savor the good times, and don't beat yourself up too much when it comes time to move on.

  • flowerhoneyflowerhoney Registered User regular
    If she's hurting your feelings then you might just be incompatible, if you think its kind of endearing but sometiemes she gets overly critical of stuff you dont think is a big deal (like getting high) then maybe you just need to have more conversations about this with her

    Is smoking weed a big clashing point with the two of you? . Again, if her bluntness is something you find endearing or attractive when I would have a conversation with her about the things she seems to get overly upset about in your opinion, why it bothers you when she says those things and why it bothers her when you do them.

  • NylonathetepNylonathetep Registered User regular
    I think it's a problem of incompatibility. However I think it's actually for your own good and you might regret it if you let her go.

    She's convincing you to save money and stop smoking weed... While she might be very "blunt" about it... these advice is probably for your own good.

    I'll say you two are in a different maturity level, with different goals and ideals and hence the incompatibility. Unless one of you match their line of thinking with another the relationship will be very painful...

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  • eponagirleponagirl Registered User regular
    if you feel she is putting you down all the time, you should tell her how you feel. i think that a partner should be someone who brings out the best in me while still challenging me to grow. if i felt depleted in a relationship, i can't say that sounds very healthy.

    though, regarding your weed habit, i agree on the point that she probably just wants assurance that you're not high when you're interacting with her. it is likely she just wants to know that you are fully "there" and listening.

  • minirhyderminirhyder BerlinRegistered User regular
    But why would she doubt that he's not high when he's talking to her? Sounds kind of like a trust issue there, caused by her dislike and fear of weed.

    I'm not sure how you would go about this - if she has such a huge problem with weed and you don't, either of your stances are probably not going to change in a major way and this issue will come up again and again.

  • BlarghyBlarghy Registered User regular
    From the sounds of it, it seems that she likes you but wishes you were a little more mature. You're still young, so don't take that as insult but rather the kind of frame of mind she's likely in.

    To her, randomly announcing that you'd like to start smoking up again is an indication of backsliding and is going to be met with annoyance not really directed at the act itself, but what it represents to her. Whether or not you're willing to accept this is up to you, but she seems to making her expectations of you fairly clear.

  • Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User, Moderator, Administrator admin
    TB1 wrote:
    The conversation on skype last night basically went like this (we skype every day, usually 2-3 times a day):

    Me: So I think I'm going to start smoking again, like maybe once every week or two.
    Her: Fine, you can smoke and we can schedule a time once a week for us to talk when I know you're not going to be high and you can do whatever the fuck you want the rest of the time.
    Me: Uhh, what? It's not that big of a deal. What about if I told you ahead of time that I was going to smoke? Or on a certain day of the week I would potentially smoke?
    Her: No.
    Erm. This sounds like a perfectly reasonable request to me. I wouldn't want to try to connect and have a conversation with my beloved if she was high. She doesn't want to schedule her life around your whim, and she's giving you a potentially better choice. "You can do anything the fuck you want, but reserve this time just for me", in other words. Putting it the other way, "I'm reserving this time just for weed" definitely sounds like you value weed more than her, which is not your intent.

    Having a "blunt" personality isn't necessarily a bad thing. She won't let things get completely out of hand or fall apart without saying something. Constant feedback is better than no feedback at all.

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  • DekuStickDekuStick Registered User regular
    You're 20. While some of the things she's trying to change about you are good things you're still only 20. Most of your peers are smoking weed and spending all their student loans at the bar. Not a high point of male maturity. Relationships among young adults are expected to fail. Long distance relationships even more so. This is only your first relationship. Take what you've learned from it and move on. You're in a new school that more than likely involves many eligible bachelorettes for you. Enjoy your time and do what you want. If you decide to try and keep this relationship going don't let her control your actions. You see this girl once a month, smoke all the weed you want, blow some money on frivolous things, whatever you want. She doesn't need to have a copy of the captain's log and know everything you've done.

  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    Hahnsoo1 wrote:
    TB1 wrote:
    The conversation on skype last night basically went like this (we skype every day, usually 2-3 times a day):

    Me: So I think I'm going to start smoking again, like maybe once every week or two.
    Her: Fine, you can smoke and we can schedule a time once a week for us to talk when I know you're not going to be high and you can do whatever the fuck you want the rest of the time.
    Me: Uhh, what? It's not that big of a deal. What about if I told you ahead of time that I was going to smoke? Or on a certain day of the week I would potentially smoke?
    Her: No.
    Erm. This sounds like a perfectly reasonable request to me. I wouldn't want to try to connect and have a conversation with my beloved if she was high. She doesn't want to schedule her life around your whim, and she's giving you a potentially better choice. "You can do anything the fuck you want, but reserve this time just for me", in other words. Putting it the other way, "I'm reserving this time just for weed" definitely sounds like you value weed more than her, which is not your intent.

    Having a "blunt" personality isn't necessarily a bad thing. She won't let things get completely out of hand or fall apart without saying something. Constant feedback is better than no feedback at all.

    "I wouldn't want to try to connect and have a conversation with my beloved if she was high."

    why

    what kind of crazy misconceptions do you people have about smoking a little weed? this sounds horrible and toxic and poisonous, to the OP, by the way. controlling stuff like that is never any good.

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  • Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User, Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited October 2011
    Fandyien wrote:
    "I wouldn't want to try to connect and have a conversation with my beloved if she was high."

    why

    what kind of crazy misconceptions do you people have about smoking a little weed? this sounds horrible and toxic and poisonous, to the OP, by the way. controlling stuff like that is never any good.
    Substitute weed for alcohol and it's the same thing. OR video games OR anything else that you do recreationally. I wouldn't want to connect and have a conversation over skype with the love of my life over long distance while they were wasted or currently playing Starcraft or watching a favorite TV show. That particular conversation actually sounds reasonable, and I could see her side of it. Especially since there's so much going on at that time in most people's lives.

    All the rest of the stuff may or may not be unreasonable. *shrugs* But that particular request is completely reasonable.

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  • LemmingLemming Registered User regular
    He says they talk 2-3 times on Skype a day, and she says if he smokes she'd schedule one time a week to talk to him. Going from 14-21 times a week to 1 sounds like an overreaction to me

  • BeckBeck Registered User regular
    edited October 2011
    I may have a weird perspective but, I would talk to her about why she doesn't like weed. Really break the issue down and distill it. If she refuses to talk about it, then you have a genuine problem. If she's never smoked before, I would say that you have another problem, because it would be impossible for her to understand how weed may affect a human being and, most importantly, you!

    She honestly sounds pretty upset and a bit brainwashed, though she could have genuine issues here that need to be talked about.

    Also, if you don't like how she's speaking to you, tell her. Be honest and kind but, yeah, I would personally let her know you want her to be honest but, a little more gentle to facilitate the real relationship you both want to cultivate.
    Hahnsoo1 wrote:
    Fandyien wrote:
    "I wouldn't want to try to connect and have a conversation with my beloved if she was high."

    why

    what kind of crazy misconceptions do you people have about smoking a little weed? this sounds horrible and toxic and poisonous, to the OP, by the way. controlling stuff like that is never any good.
    Substitute weed for alcohol and it's the same thing. OR video games OR anything else that you do recreationally. I wouldn't want to connect and have a conversation over skype with the love of my life over long distance while they were wasted or currently playing Starcraft or watching a favorite TV show. That particular conversation actually sounds reasonable, and I could see her side of it. Especially since there's so much going on at that time in most people's lives.

    All the rest of the stuff may or may not be unreasonable. *shrugs* But that particular request is completely reasonable.

    I sort of see what you mean (being sober around some high people can suck) but, weed can affect some people wildly different than others and I think that's an important aspect of brain chemistry to remember.

    I definitely understand where you're coming from but, I do know some people who can function perfectly well high and it is worth taking that kind of person into consideration to avoid that awful misconception that all high people are stupid, boring, or not themselves because it does damage people and their relationships.

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  • KorlashKorlash Québécois TorontoRegistered User regular
    edited October 2011
    Maybe she's not afraid of his behavior while high, but simply is philosophically opposed to the idea of taking drugs? It happens. If that's how she feels, it's perfectly legitimate of her to threaten him over this issue, and a talk about the effects of weed isn't going to change that.

    Honestly, it seems to me like she generally only wants your own good, even though she might be rude about it. That Skype conversation doesn't seem so out of line for me.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    Arguably, your example isn't her being blunt, it's her being passive aggressive. She has a problem with you smoking weed. When you said "I am thinking of taking it up occasionally, as just something fun maybe once or twice a month," her response was not "I would like it if you did not smoke weed," which is what she actually *meant* to say. That would have been blunt.

    Instead, she said "Fine, do whatever you want, I don't care, and because I don't care I'm going to cut down on the time that we talk as punishment."

    Regardless of what any of us feel about marijuana, your girlfriend obviously has an opinion. She has an opinion about quite a few things in your life, too. She is apparently interested in changing you to fit what she believes would make her happy, rather than accepting you. Whether that affects important elements of your life is up to you. For example, I asked my girlfriend to load the dishwasher from back to front. It's a small request, so I assume she's not bothered by it. When she doesn't, I don't get angry. When I notice it and we're loading the dishwasher together, I'll mention it again -- not in a condescending way, but in a direct, "blunt" way like "hey, you should load from back to front due to weight on the shelf -- and so you don't have to touch the dirty stuff while sliding the shelf out." I could say something like how your girlfriend does, such as "fine, if you're going to load the dishwasher, I don't want to touch it until it's full and you run it and empty it after."

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  • Chop LogicChop Logic Registered User regular
    edited October 2011
    Honestly, she sounds like a totally controlling bitch. She "verbally abused" you into saving money? AKA she was telling you what to do, and you let her.

    And dude, if you don't live near her, then why should she care if you're getting high? I can almost guarantee she cares because it's an aspect of your life that she isn't able to control. I mean look at your skype conversation. You said, I might start smoking weed again, and she said, well I better fucking be able to tell you when you're smoking.

    Also, to these people saying her reaction to you smoking is reasonable, fuck that. Sometimes I call my girlfriend, and she is high, and I don't give a shit because it's her life and her time and she can do whatever she wants. Honestly, I'm kind of happy because it means that she is just chilling and having a good time. No one gets really stoned and then blacks out and cheats on their girlfriend, her reaction is entirely unreasonable. If you were smoking all day every day there could be some justification for her trying to stop you, but otherwise that is just ridiculous.

    Also your friend broke your bong, and she told you that you should be mad at him? Even though she's against you smoking weed. Interesting, analyze if this is the type of person you want to be with.

    If you're TWENTY YEARS OLD, you really shouldn't be having to tolerate stuff like this from a girlfriend. Honestly, you should break up with her, because from what I've seen, controlling significant others only get more controlling, and you end up getting sucked into their spiral and they run your life. Think about it.

    Do you want a girlfriend who is constantly struggling to change you into a different person, or one that augments how awesome you are, and enjoys who you are without trying to change you?

    I could be totally wrong, just my 2 cents.

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  • acidlacedpenguinacidlacedpenguin Institutionalized Safe in jail.Registered User regular
    I've got some self-help media filed away specifically for this kind of situation. . .

    yup, here it is. Filed under J.

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  • Modern ManModern Man Registered User regular
    Chop Logic wrote:
    Do you want a girlfriend who is constantly struggling to change you into a different person, or one that augments how awesome you are, and enjoys who you are without trying to change you?
    Sometimes, change is for the better. I personally don't see anything wrong with a significant other who does not want you to smoke weed. Most people I know who smoked weed when they were younger gave it up as they got older and more mature. The whole mantra of "you're okay exactly the way you are" is pretty much bullshit- we all have flaws we need to work on.

    From what the OP has written about his girlfriend, she comes off as undiplomatic, but generally correct in her views on life. Getting pissed at someone for wrecking your stuff (and presumably not paying to replace it) is not unreasonable. Being responsible with your money is a good thing. Not smoking weed is generally a positive choice in one's life. All of the stuff she's pressuring you on are things you should be doing on your own.

    The question for the OP, I guess, is whether he's at a point in his life where things like smoking weed is more important this particular relationship. His girlfriend's dislike of weed is not irrational and I don't think she comes off as controlling. But, the two of them might be at different points in their lives, which can be a major source of incompatibility. She seems like she has a good head on her shoulders and is pretty mature, but she probably needs to work on her lack of tactfulnes.

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  • Penguin_OtakuPenguin_Otaku Registered User regular
    Sounds like she could use a hit from the bong, man.

    But really the ultimatum thing is never a good sign. There's some quote about ultimatums this or that not being good. I'd talk to her about this, how it makes you feel.

    Sounds like she's had some positive effects on your life which is good. It's good to have someone to call you on your shit sometimes. I've enjoyed being in relationships like this just because it's nice to have someone not let you get into your own ego so much, but that relationship got out of hand and she went on a power trip and I wanted nothing more to do with her.

    Is it worth it, especially being a long-distance relationship?

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    As a rule, when you're in your late teens/early twenties, a long-distance relationship is way, way more trouble than it's worth. And it sounds like this isn't even all that good of a long-distance relationship.

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