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  • SeguerSeguer of the Void Sydney, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    Topia wrote:
    I have to play stealth because I enjoy Dark Brotherhooding it up in the proper way. But I don't think it will be too easy to sneak up on a dragon, so... I'm probably going to be a stealth/magic type character. Or stealth with bows.

    Oh snap, I totally forgot about how I'm going to slay dragons as a piss-weak Illusion Thief.

    Uh oh.

  • John ZoidbergJohn Zoidberg Registered User regular
    Seguer wrote:
    Topia wrote:
    I have to play stealth because I enjoy Dark Brotherhooding it up in the proper way. But I don't think it will be too easy to sneak up on a dragon, so... I'm probably going to be a stealth/magic type character. Or stealth with bows.

    Oh snap, I totally forgot about how I'm going to slay dragons as a piss-weak Illusion Thief.

    Uh oh.

    Poisons and lots of hiding.

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  • SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    Hey so this is probably the place to ask. I have Oblivion XP running and would like to respec my character. Is there a way/mod that I can reset all my points and level up again without starting the game over?

  • Macro9Macro9 Registered User regular
    edited November 2011
    Seguer wrote:
    Topia wrote:
    I have to play stealth because I enjoy Dark Brotherhooding it up in the proper way. But I don't think it will be too easy to sneak up on a dragon, so... I'm probably going to be a stealth/magic type character. Or stealth with bows.

    Oh snap, I totally forgot about how I'm going to slay dragons as a piss-weak Illusion Thief.

    Uh oh.

    Poisons and lots of hiding.

    Companions and some enraged giants and their mammoths.

    Alternatively just Hulk out and go all Silver Bullet on their asses.

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  • MechMantisMechMantis Registered User regular
    Okay so regarding the god-stuff discussions:
    The new Emperor banning the worship of Talos isn't entirely unheard of, there were Eight Divines before Talos ascended sometime between Daggerfall and Morrowind. I'm sure some Mer don't mind the change, since quite a few of them probably still remember the old way of things.

    As for "Wait Elves don't live that long!" Barenziah was impregnated by Tiber Septim himself (if that biography is to be believed), and was still alive and kicking in Daggerfall and Morrowind.

  • Macro9Macro9 Registered User regular
    SniperGuy wrote:
    Hey so this is probably the place to ask. I have Oblivion XP running and would like to respec my character. Is there a way/mod that I can reset all my points and level up again without starting the game over?

    You can always try the showclassmenu and advlevel commands.
    showclassmenu: WARNING: Using this menu will reset all of your skills to their default initial settings. If you want to save your current skills, you'll have to open the escape menu right before clicking the final "done" button, save the game through the console ("save test") and then reload it ("load test"). After the reload your Classes will be changed like you wanted them to be and your skills will not be reset)
    advlevel: This command does display the usual levelup dialog where you select the attributes to increase. When using this, the number of times you have to level up your major skills to level again does NOT advance. This means that if you had 3 major skill levels until your next level, and you used the advlevel command to level three times, you will need 23 major skill improves before the game starts leveling you again.

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  • KarozKaroz Registered User regular
    Vi Monks wrote:
    Archonex wrote:
    Goddamnit, I hate street release dates. Watching this LP is only increasing my hype now. Especially now that the guy is moderately more competent then in his earlier videos.

    Street release dates for games come off as pretty goddamned arbitrary nowadays, to me.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNKfucd0HYo

    It's like Bethesda is the trainer. We're the dogs. And this is the meat.

    I actually saw this on my honeymoon. Those dogs are nuts. Also, the smell. Dear God, the smell...

    I picture this happening on Midnight Release. I got Saturday AND Sunday off work. I'M SO STOKED!

    I feel like that the dog still on the ramp. I know I'm gonna get some meat but I'm not gonna make a biMEATMEATMEATMEATMEAT!

  • Macro9Macro9 Registered User regular
    edited November 2011
    MechMantis wrote:
    Okay so regarding the god-stuff discussions:
    The new Emperor banning the worship of Talos isn't entirely unheard of, there were Eight Divines before Talos ascended sometime between Daggerfall and Morrowind. I'm sure some Mer don't mind the change, since quite a few of them probably still remember the old way of things.

    As for "Wait Elves don't live that long!" Barenziah was impregnated by Tiber Septim himself (if that biography is to be believed), and was still alive and kicking in Daggerfall and Morrowind.
    Wasn't the ban and demolishing of worship of Talos spurred on because of the Empire's capitulation to the Aldmeri Dominion Thalmor?

    So, yeah, Elves.

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  • SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    Hrm. Unfortunately after a showclassmenu I was still level 12. Though my skills had changed, the points remained where I put them originally. So the base stuff moved around, but like, heavy armor still had 20 points in it.

  • Macro9Macro9 Registered User regular
    SniperGuy wrote:
    Hrm. Unfortunately after a showclassmenu I was still level 12. Though my skills had changed, the points remained where I put them originally. So the base stuff moved around, but like, heavy armor still had 20 points in it.

    You can change the number your skills and attributes are at with the setav command. Like setav Strength # or setav destruction #

    I don't believe there's a mod that will let you reset your points.

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  • GoodKingJayIIIGoodKingJayIII They wanna get my gold on the ceilingRegistered User regular
    Seguer wrote:
    Topia wrote:
    I have to play stealth because I enjoy Dark Brotherhooding it up in the proper way. But I don't think it will be too easy to sneak up on a dragon, so... I'm probably going to be a stealth/magic type character. Or stealth with bows.

    Oh snap, I totally forgot about how I'm going to slay dragons as a piss-weak Illusion Thief.

    Uh oh.

    Poisons and lots of hiding.

    That one shield talent that gives you elemental resistances seems really important for wrasslin' dragons.

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  • JepheryJephery Registered User regular
    Become so stealthy that the dragon just sits there taking arrows to the face?

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited November 2011
    Remember...Archery is apart of the stealth tree.

    Edit: Too late.

    Dragkonias on
  • Macro9Macro9 Registered User regular
    Dragkonias wrote:
    Remember...Archery is apart of the stealth tree.

    Edit: Too late.

    No it's not.

    Unless you actually mean apart rather than a part.

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    Oh...my bad I was thinking of that chart that split all the skills into magic, combat, stealth.

  • DerrickDerrick Registered User regular
    Banzai5150 wrote:
    So I gave in and pre-purchased through Steam not saving any money, by mistake cuz I had added it to my cart and didn't pay attention when I bought something else! Yeah for Skyrim, Boo for being retarded?

    Eh, the "deal" that's active right now with D2D isn't very impressive. I'd rather serve the Newell in thanks for Steam.


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  • GoodKingJayIIIGoodKingJayIII They wanna get my gold on the ceilingRegistered User regular
    Derrick wrote:
    Banzai5150 wrote:
    So I gave in and pre-purchased through Steam not saving any money, by mistake cuz I had added it to my cart and didn't pay attention when I bought something else! Yeah for Skyrim, Boo for being retarded?

    Eh, the "deal" that's active right now with D2D isn't very impressive. I'd rather serve the Newell in thanks for Steam.


    Because it's a Steamworks game, you kinda do that no matter where you buy it. But I imagine there will be a pretty sweet Steam Skyrim deal for Black Friday anyway, so there's also that.

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  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    From the LP video, I see that the same Gamebryo bugs are present. A book and a body got stuck on surfaces and started twitching.

  • JimpyJimpy Registered User regular
    Bought it off of Amazon. 99 cent release day shipping is something I couldn't pass up, and I wanted a box. All you techy savvy steam guys with your invisible games; sometimes a man just wants to feel the cardboard in between his fingers.

  • MatzMatz Bronze Grandmaster FurieRegistered User regular
    For someone who is new to these games, how crucial are the starting bonuses (ie +5 one handed etc) to the type of character you wish to play? Are you gimping yourself if you don't try to match at least a few with your main plan?

    Secondly is a bow pretty useless with magic (since you will need to continuously swap?).

    Thirdly is there really much value in things like lockpicking and pickpocketing? I guess I come from the background that you can/should be building your character to be able to fight (spells/weapons/stealth) and it seems to me that these skills don't really assist (apart from maybe finding some extra stuff?)

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  • SeguerSeguer of the Void Sydney, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    Yeah my plan has been Illusion + Sneak with Alchemy for Poisons.

    I'll need to determine whether I need archery in there..

  • Macro9Macro9 Registered User regular
    Matz wrote:
    For someone who is new to these games, how crucial are the starting bonuses (ie +5 one handed etc) to the type of character you wish to play? Are you gimping yourself if you don't try to match at least a few with your main plan?

    Secondly is a bow pretty useless with magic (since you will need to continuously swap?).

    Thirdly is there really much value in things like lockpicking and pickpocketing? I guess I come from the background that you can/should be building your character to be able to fight (spells/weapons/stealth) and it seems to me that these skills don't really assist (apart from maybe finding some extra stuff?)

    The starting bonuses will give an early edge. A player that doesn't have a bonus in the skills they use should level slightly faster with their leveling system. Not exactly sure, though.

    There should be open lock spells in the Alteration school of magic if you are going the route of a mage. Lockpicking will probably make more stealth oriented missions easier, and may provide better loot from locked containers.

    There will probably be a bash lock mod out soon enough after the construction set is released. I imagine Oblivion's will be ported over if the engine isn't drastically different.

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  • Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    Matz wrote:
    For someone who is new to these games, how crucial are the starting bonuses (ie +5 one handed etc) to the type of character you wish to play? Are you gimping yourself if you don't try to match at least a few with your main plan?

    Secondly is a bow pretty useless with magic (since you will need to continuously swap?).

    Thirdly is there really much value in things like lockpicking and pickpocketing? I guess I come from the background that you can/should be building your character to be able to fight (spells/weapons/stealth) and it seems to me that these skills don't really assist (apart from maybe finding some extra stuff?)

    Are you talking about Skyrim or the other Elder Scrolls games?
    I don't think anyone knows enough about Skyrim yet to make anything more than a half-educated guess.

    That said..I guess the starting bonuses are nice, but Skyrim seems to be lenient enough with its improved level up & scaling system that you won't really gimp yourself.

    About the bow & magic thing..it depends on what kind of character you're playing. If you're raising Sneak, then opening fights with a well placed arrow is definitely a good option. For a (more or less) pure mage who invests heavily in Destruction, I'd say taking Archery probably isn't worth it.

    Well, the value of lockpicking depends entirely on how many locked chests & doors there are in Skyrim that you can't open otherwise and if there is anything of worth behind them. Still..Lockpicking is probably something that's worth raising at least a little bit.
    Not sure about Pickpocketing but the perks associated with it sound amazing.

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  • MatzMatz Bronze Grandmaster FurieRegistered User regular
    Maz- wrote:
    Matz wrote:
    For someone who is new to these games, how crucial are the starting bonuses (ie +5 one handed etc) to the type of character you wish to play? Are you gimping yourself if you don't try to match at least a few with your main plan?

    Secondly is a bow pretty useless with magic (since you will need to continuously swap?).

    Thirdly is there really much value in things like lockpicking and pickpocketing? I guess I come from the background that you can/should be building your character to be able to fight (spells/weapons/stealth) and it seems to me that these skills don't really assist (apart from maybe finding some extra stuff?)

    Are you talking about Skyrim or the other Elder Scrolls games?
    I don't think anyone knows enough about Skyrim yet to make anything more than a half-educated guess.

    That said..I guess the starting bonuses are nice, but Skyrim seems to be lenient enough with its improved level up & scaling system that you won't really gimp yourself.

    About the bow & magic thing..it depends on what kind of character you're playing. If you're raising Sneak, then opening fights with a well placed arrow is definitely a good option. For a (more or less) pure mage who invests heavily in Destruction, I'd say taking Archery probably isn't worth it.

    Well, the value of lockpicking depends entirely on how many locked chests & doors there are in Skyrim that you can't open otherwise and if there is anything of worth behind them. Still..Lockpicking is probably something that's worth raising at least a little bit.
    Not sure about Pickpocketing but the perks associated with it sound amazing.

    I was talking about Skyrim so appreciate that no one really knows... Might just be a case of experimentation.

    I guess I am looking at more of a mage with sword type character. I think Macro9 might have listed a proposed style of build that looked interesting. Wasn't really looking at stealth for this character but really just a focus in offensive magic with sword where appropriate. Probably no room (or need) for bow with this.

    I just couldn't quite get my head around whether the starting racial bonuses were more (sorry - to use WOW as an example) like already placed skill tree bonusus or more like a weapons skill/profession skill bonus. In the first instance it would save you quite a bit of "points?" whereas in the second its just "swinging your sword" a bit more to get your one handed up to the +5 bonus. Hope I have explained what I mean...

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  • ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    edited November 2011
    The racial bonuses are simply individual perk-like attributes, you'll be fine no matter what race you choose, choose what takes your fancy. The races are mainly a aesthetic and roleplaying choice, thankfully.

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  • Steel AngelSteel Angel Registered User regular
    Matz wrote:
    Secondly is a bow pretty useless with magic (since you will need to continuously swap?).

    That will probably depend on how much magicka you're using for Destruction spells versus how much you use on heals/buffs/summons/etc. If you're blowing all your magicka on non-damage spells, a bow could by quite useful. I also get the impression that bows can hit stuff at a longer range if you invest some perks in archery.

    Plus bows are silent, magic not so much. That can be a factor for stealth/magic types.
    Thirdly is there really much value in things like lockpicking and pickpocketing? I guess I come from the background that you can/should be building your character to be able to fight (spells/weapons/stealth) and it seems to me that these skills don't really assist (apart from maybe finding some extra stuff?)

    Remember that you don't build your character so much as raise skills by using them. No other skill lets you pickpocket stuff and only two skills let you deal with locks. There are perks now, but the basic skill in lockpicking and pickpocketing isn't something you're building up at the expense of something else outside of any lock you open with lockpicks not being one you open with the Alteration school's open lock spell (assuming it's still in that school and hasn't been moved since Oblivion). You just may not want to invest perks into those skills.

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  • harvestharvest By birthright, a stupendous badass.Registered User regular
    Racial bona just give you a little head start at whatever skill. If you want to make a sneaky Imperial you aren't gimped because you don't have the Bosmer skills, you'll just have to spend an extra 5-10 minutes to get those initial points.

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  • ArchonexArchonex No hard feelings, right? Registered User regular
    edited November 2011
    MechMantis wrote:
    Okay so regarding the god-stuff discussions:
    The new Emperor banning the worship of Talos isn't entirely unheard of, there were Eight Divines before Talos ascended sometime between Daggerfall and Morrowind. I'm sure some Mer don't mind the change, since quite a few of them probably still remember the old way of things.

    As for "Wait Elves don't live that long!" Barenziah was impregnated by Tiber Septim himself (if that biography is to be believed), and was still alive and kicking in Daggerfall and Morrowind.

    Catch is
    This is a world where Gods are real and present aspects of day to day life.

    Would you flip off Satan and say "I don't believe in you", if he was standing right in front of you, cackling maniacally and stroking his beard?

    Talos is a god of war and, more importantly, governance. Stealing the throne and banning worship of him is a bit like flipping off a god in DnD. Sure, you might feel smug about it for a few seconds. But it's just as likely that that God is going to drop the fantasy equivalent of a strategic nuke on your position within the next few minutes out of spite.

    It sounds like this new Emperor has firmly taken hold of the villain and idiot ball, and ran straight off a cliff with them.

    And the problem isn't the miniscule number of elves that existed back then. It's the huge number of worshipers (The guy was pretty much the most famous and popular person ever. He was basically Aragorn if he had the blessings of a bunch of vikings, and a thirst for war.) that have been born since then and devote their lives to the guy.

    Seems like the new Emperor is trying to do the Palpatine "there were no Jedi. EVER." thing.

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  • ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    Do we know what the racial abilities are exactly yet?

  • Macro9Macro9 Registered User regular
    Prohass wrote:
    Do we know what the racial abilities are exactly yet?
      ORCS: Beserker REDGUARDS: Adrenaline Rush WOOD ELF: Resist poison, resisit disease, command animals NORD: Battlecry KHAJIIT: Night-eye, claw attacks IMPERIAL: Voice of the Emperor, find more coins when looting HIGH ELF: Regenerate Magicka more quickly DARK ELF: Ancestor’s Wrath (surround self in fire), resist fire BRETON: Dragonskin (absorb spells), resist shock ARGONIANS: Histskin (regenerate health quickly), resist disease, breathe underwater

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  • ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    edited November 2011
    I think this is the first elder scrolls game where I want to play every race, in both sexes.

    Edit: Awesome thanks Macro

    Does anyone know if body types for beast races are different? I want to make an Argonian thats the size of the beefy Nord in the videos, basically I dont want a skinny reptile I want a demon-looking son of a bitch that people will mistake for a de-winged dragon.

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  • Macro9Macro9 Registered User regular
    Archonex wrote:
    MechMantis wrote:
    Okay so regarding the god-stuff discussions:
    The new Emperor banning the worship of Talos isn't entirely unheard of, there were Eight Divines before Talos ascended sometime between Daggerfall and Morrowind. I'm sure some Mer don't mind the change, since quite a few of them probably still remember the old way of things.

    As for "Wait Elves don't live that long!" Barenziah was impregnated by Tiber Septim himself (if that biography is to be believed), and was still alive and kicking in Daggerfall and Morrowind.

    Catch is
    This is a world where Gods are real and present aspects of day to day life.

    Would you flip off Satan and say "I don't believe in you", if he was standing right in front of you, cackling maniacally and stroking his beard?

    Talos is a god of war and, more importantly, governance. Stealing the throne and banning worship of him is a bit like flipping off a god in DnD. Sure, you might feel smug about it for a few seconds. But it's just as likely that that God is going to drop the fantasy equivalent of a strategic nuke on your position within the next few minutes out of spite.

    It sounds like this new Emperor has firmly taken hold of the villain and idiot ball, and ran straight off a cliff with them.

    And the problem isn't the miniscule number of elves that existed back then. It's the huge number of worshipers (The guy was pretty much the most famous and popular person ever. He was basically Aragorn if he had the blessings of a bunch of vikings, and a thirst for war.) that have been born since then and devote their lives to the guy.

    Seems like the new Emperor is trying to do the Palpatine "there were no Jedi. EVER." thing.
    Who is the current emperor and isn't the Thalmor technically responsible for the Talos thing?

    The Empire did allow them do snuff out his worship in the Empire, but it looks like they didn't have much choice unless they wanted to keep warring with them.

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  • MatzMatz Bronze Grandmaster FurieRegistered User regular
    Thanks guys. I think that helps a lot. So I really shouldn't be too concerned about choosing a race with particular starting bonuses.

    However the racial abilities is a bit different though perhaps. ie - having an inante 25% resistance to magic (Breton?) or a 50% resistance to fire (Dark Elf) looks useful...

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  • Vi MonksVi Monks Registered User regular
    edited November 2011
    Plus bows are silent, magic not so much. That can be a factor for stealth/magic types.

    Just FYI, there's an Illusion perk to make all spellcasting silent.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    How will skills work? Looks like the old "gain skill points on use, level up every X points", but can you max all skills if you keep grinding? (Not that I'd do that, just curious.)

  • ArthilArthil Registered User regular
    Skills? Probably yeah. Perks? No.

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  • MatzMatz Bronze Grandmaster FurieRegistered User regular
    Echo wrote:
    How will skills work? Looks like the old "gain skill points on use, level up every X points", but can you max all skills if you keep grinding? (Not that I'd do that, just curious.)

    I just read this in the OP which seems to answer that:

    "If you raise all your skills to 100, the hard level cap you reach is 70. Bethesda has stated the soft level cap, or the cap they've built content around, is 50."

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  • DecoyDecoy Registered User regular
    Ugh. The sweet, sweet shield perks have me rethinking my first playthrough. They sounded just too damn good. And I'm liking the DE racial. If the fire thing is an actual animation I think I might be sold.

  • Steel AngelSteel Angel Registered User regular
    Vi Monks wrote:
    Plus bows are silent, magic not so much. That can be a factor for stealth/magic types.

    Just FYI, there's an Illusion perk to make all spellcasting silent.

    There is, but I'm not sure it fully silences a destruction spell. The casting part should be silenced for sure but the part where fire strikes a target may be another matter. And since spells don't get sneak attack bonuses, I imagine the yelling of the roasting target might make noise too.

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  • Toxic PickleToxic Pickle Thash grape! Registered User regular
    I've been thinking I might go with a Khajiit archer type of character, and seeing the racial bonuses, I believe this would be a good choice indeed.

    Not really sure what magic I'd add to that, but probably would need something like Illusion or the like. Wonder if we can poison arrows in this.

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