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[Sandusky Sex Abuse] 60mil fine for Penn St, 4 year post season ban

So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
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Jerry Sandusky used to be a coach in the Penn State football program.

A recent scandal broke showing that several members of the program and university administration were aware of alleged sexual abuse of young boys by Sandusky and nothing was ever reported to police. Sandusky helped run a charity for at-risk young boys.

Sandusky has been indicted, with 8 victims so far, and the university president and long time head football coach, Joe Paterno, have been fired. Two others have been indicted for lying to the grand jury, Tim Curley, athletic director, and Gary Schultz, senior vp for finance and business.

Penn State students rioted at the news of JoePa being fired. Jon Stewart does not approve. http://www.newser.com/story/133116/video-jon-stewart-shames-penn-state-rioters-on-the-daily-show.html?utm_medium=fark&utm_campaign=pop

Grand jury indictment: http://www.crewof42.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Sandusky-indictment.pdf

Sandusky's bail was set by a judge who allegedly has ties to his charity. http://deadspin.com/5859075/judge-who-set-unsecured-bail-for-jerry-sandusky-is-a-second-mile-volunteer

Sandusky did a creepy national TV interview with Bob Costas. Part of it didn't air. http://pittsburgh.sbnation.com/penn-st-nittany-lions/2011/11/15/2564760/jerry-sandusky-interview-unaired-portion-raises-questions-about

Sandusky published an autobiography titled "Touched" in 2001.

Assistant coach McQueary is cited in the indictment as having directly seen Sandusky raping a boy in the locker room in 2002. He has since stated he actually stopped what was happening. He reported it to Paterno, who then reported up the chain of administration to Curley. Sandusky retired in 1999 but still had access to the facilities through the charity. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15750684


So here is a place to discuss this and the new stuff that comes out about this scandal, which is becoming worse by the day, really.

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  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products, Transition Team regular
    that TV interview is one of the craziest things I have ever heard.

    His lawyer scheduled it for him.

    Part of me hopes the lawyer did that on purpose.

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  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    syndalis wrote:
    that TV interview is one of the craziest things I have ever heard.

    His lawyer scheduled it for him.

    Part of me hopes the lawyer did that on purpose.

    I don't think it helped him, honestly.

    and I wonder if it was even ethical on the lawyer's part!

  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    Here is the part that didn't air:

    BOB COSTAS

    19:00:28:00: "But isn't what you're just describing the classic MO of many pedophiles? And that is that they gain the trust of young people, they don't necessarily abuse every young person. There were hundreds, if not thousands of young boys you came into contact with, but there are allegations that at least eight of them were victimized. Many people believe there are more to come. So it's entirely possible that you could've helped young boy A in some way that was not objectionable while horribly taking advantage of young boy B, C, D, and E. Isn't that possible?"

    JERRY SANDUSKY:

    19:01:01:00: "Well -- you might think that. I don't know. (LAUGHS) In terms of -- my relationship with so many, many young people. I would-- I would guess that there are many young people who would come forward. Many more young people who would come forward and say that my methods and-- and what I had done for them made a very positive impact on their life. And I didn't go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that I've helped. There are many that I didn't have-- I hardly had any contact with who I have helped in many, many ways."

  • Evil_ReaverEvil_Reaver Registered User regular
    So It Goes wrote:
    syndalis wrote:
    that TV interview is one of the craziest things I have ever heard.

    His lawyer scheduled it for him.

    Part of me hopes the lawyer did that on purpose.

    I don't think it helped him, honestly.

    and I wonder if it was even ethical on the lawyer's part!

    Sandusky might try to sue his attorney for malpractice if the attorney did, in fact, schedule this interview/not intervene during the interview. There's a lot that would have to be proven in a malpractice suit, but yeah, the attorney could face civil liability if he had anything to do with the interview.

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  • InvisibleInvisible Registered User regular
    Considering Sandusky's attorney impregnated and later married a 16-year-old when he was 49, he doesn't like the brightest guy.

  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products, Transition Team regular
    Invisible wrote:
    Considering Sandusky's attorney impregnated and later married a 16-year-old when he was 49, he doesn't like the brightest guy.
    I feel like reality is punking me.

    I mean, a guy who ran a charity for at risk youth, who wrote a book called "touched" is a pedophile who chooses a cradle robber for his attorney? Really?

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  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    Oh yeah I forgot to put that in the OP.

    So messed up.

  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    That interview was the most uncomfortable thing I've ever seen/heard on television. Going forward, I'm going to pretend this case doesn't exist.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    So It Goes wrote:
    Here is the part that didn't air:

    BOB COSTAS

    19:00:28:00: "But isn't what you're just describing the classic MO of many pedophiles? And that is that they gain the trust of young people, they don't necessarily abuse every young person. There were hundreds, if not thousands of young boys you came into contact with, but there are allegations that at least eight of them were victimized. Many people believe there are more to come. So it's entirely possible that you could've helped young boy A in some way that was not objectionable while horribly taking advantage of young boy B, C, D, and E. Isn't that possible?"

    JERRY SANDUSKY:

    19:01:01:00: "Well -- you might think that. I don't know. (LAUGHS) In terms of -- my relationship with so many, many young people. I would-- I would guess that there are many young people who would come forward. Many more young people who would come forward and say that my methods and-- and what I had done for them made a very positive impact on their life. And I didn't go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that I've helped. There are many that I didn't have-- I hardly had any contact with who I have helped in many, many ways."

    Kids are like a Subway club card - get it punched every time you help a kid; turn in a fully-punched card for a guilt-free child-rape.

    Ugh, maybe now that the famous coach guy is gone the media will turn back to burning this motherfucker alive.

  • Magus`Magus` The fun has been DOUBLED! Registered User regular
    That is one HELL of a 'flub', my god.

  • BullioBullio Registered User regular
    edited November 2011
    So he's using the Herman Cain defense? That will work out well for him.

    That Costas interview was just...strange. I don't know if Sandusky is totally oblivious or emotionally detached from his current situation and what he's done, or if he was medicated during the interview. He did not come across as a person that is feeling anything resembling remorse or guilt.

    EDIT: Also, I nominate this photo for the OP.
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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    That interview is unbelievably surreal.

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  • SiskaSiska Shorty Registered User regular
    edited November 2011
    So It Goes wrote:
    Here is the part that didn't air:

    BOB COSTAS

    19:00:28:00: "But isn't what you're just describing the classic MO of many pedophiles? And that is that they gain the trust of young people, they don't necessarily abuse every young person. There were hundreds, if not thousands of young boys you came into contact with, but there are allegations that at least eight of them were victimized. Many people believe there are more to come. So it's entirely possible that you could've helped young boy A in some way that was not objectionable while horribly taking advantage of young boy B, C, D, and E. Isn't that possible?"

    JERRY SANDUSKY:

    19:01:01:00: "Well -- you might think that. I don't know. (LAUGHS) In terms of -- my relationship with so many, many young people. I would-- I would guess that there are many young people who would come forward. Many more young people who would come forward and say that my methods and-- and what I had done for them made a very positive impact on their life. And I didn't go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that I've helped. There are many that I didn't have-- I hardly had any contact with who I have helped in many, many ways."

    What the crap! Either that is the poorest choice of words ever, or he just admitted on camera to having sex with kids. He must have the worlds dumbest lawyer.

    Siska on
  • The EnderThe Ender Registered User regular
    That Costas interview was just...strange. I don't know if Sandusky is totally oblivious or emotionally detached from his current situation and what he's done, or if he was medicated during the interview. He did not come across as a person that is feeling anything resembling remorse or guilt.

    it's called 'psychopathy'.

    "It doesn't matter what I did! These kids will vouch for me! THEY'LL VOUCH FOR ME, DAMMIT! I'm always allowed to get away with this shit when people cover-up my horrifying behavior for me because I'm a smooth-talker, so I don't see why it should be different this time!"


    Yeah, 'Touched' the biography. What a sick motherfucker. Well, at least we now know that he's been an active predator since at least 2001, which makes the idea that he's only raped 8 victims pretty laughable.

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  • ThisThis Registered User regular
    I liked the part in the video when Sandusky is answering the "are you attracted to kids question" and it cuts to his lawyer swallowing nervously.

  • ZampanovZampanov You May Not Go Home Until Tonight Has Been MagicalRegistered User regular
    "Listen, I didn't bang every kid I ever met, c'man what'm I some kinda jerk?"

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  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    Zampanov wrote:
    "Listen, I didn't bang every kid I ever met, c'man what'm I some kinda jerk?"

    In his defence, some of them might have been ugly.

  • KistraKistra Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote:
    Kids are like a Subway club card - get it punched every time you help a kid; turn in a fully-punched card for a guilt-free child-rape.

    Ugh, maybe now that the famous coach guy is gone the media will turn back to burning this motherfucker alive.

    Hahaha. You mean now that Paterno has been fired maybe the media will actually start talking about Sandusky? ESPN managed to talk about the scandal for 3 or 4 days without regularly mentioning anyone by name other than Paterno.

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  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    It's times like this I'm glad I don't follow sports at all. People have talked about Paterno like he's some kind of local god, but he's a nobody to me. Fuck whatever special treatment these guys got because they're in football.

  • Panda4YouPanda4You Registered User regular
    Zampanov wrote:
    "Listen, I didn't bang every kid I ever met, c'man what'm I some kinda jerk?"
    That location/sig/everything...
    :^:

  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    Kistra wrote:
    KalTorak wrote:
    Kids are like a Subway club card - get it punched every time you help a kid; turn in a fully-punched card for a guilt-free child-rape.

    Ugh, maybe now that the famous coach guy is gone the media will turn back to burning this motherfucker alive.

    Hahaha. You mean now that Paterno has been fired maybe the media will actually start talking about Sandusky? ESPN managed to talk about the scandal for 3 or 4 days without regularly mentioning anyone by name other than Paterno.

    Its disgusting that the media did this.

    Joe Paterno was wrong he admitted as much but maybe focus on the deranged sexual predator

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  • The EnderThe Ender Registered User regular
    Hahaha. You mean now that Paterno has been fired maybe the media will actually start talking about Sandusky? ESPN managed to talk about the scandal for 3 or 4 days without regularly mentioning anyone by name other than Paterno.

    That's downright fucked. Why would they be interested in protecting Sandusky?

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    The Ender wrote:
    Hahaha. You mean now that Paterno has been fired maybe the media will actually start talking about Sandusky? ESPN managed to talk about the scandal for 3 or 4 days without regularly mentioning anyone by name other than Paterno.

    That's downright fucked. Why would they be interested in protecting Sandusky?

    I think everybody knows that Sandusky is going down, the media doesn't need to condemn him for that to happen. Paterno is the celebrity going down in flames, of course he gets the media coverage.

  • acidlacedpenguinacidlacedpenguin Institutionalized Safe in jail.Registered User regular
    Don't you guys know? It's not rape if you call it horseplay!

    Also it's not gay if you say "good game."

    but seriously, Sandusky's going to burn in hell, and I don't even believe in it... I just hope he burns on earth, too-- just in case the afterlife is make believe.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Mcqueary's new statements read like so much ITG bs. I wonder if that email could be used to hit him for perjury since his new statement directly contradicts what he told the grand jury. Especially about talking to police.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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  • DrukDruk Registered User regular
    When calling the attorney a cradle robber, that's going by the '1/2 Age + 7' rule, right? Because the age of consent in PA is 16.

  • RocketSauceRocketSauce Registered User regular
    The really fucked up thing about his interview is he claims he was just showering with young boys, as if that was better. Any adult who isn't looking to exploit a child knows this is wrong and he is creating a situation where the possibility of exploitation could occur. I'm going to bet this is not even the worst of what will come out.

  • a5ehrena5ehren AtlantaRegistered User regular
    Druk wrote:
    When calling the attorney a cradle robber, that's going by the '1/2 Age + 7' rule, right? Because the age of consent in PA is 16.

    If you're damn near 50 and banging someone that's young enough that you'd have to get their parents' written permission to marry them, it's pretty safe to say you're a cradle robber. At a minimum, it's horribly unethical to bang a current/former client (of any age).

  • Modern ManModern Man Registered User regular
    syndalis wrote:
    that TV interview is one of the craziest things I have ever heard.

    His lawyer scheduled it for him.

    Part of me hopes the lawyer did that on purpose.
    His lawyer scheduled the interview? A sane lawyer would threaten to quit if his client decided to do an interview like this.

    I read a comment somewhere that this interview might turn out to be Sandusky's suicide note.

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  • a5ehrena5ehren AtlantaRegistered User regular
    Modern Man wrote:
    syndalis wrote:
    that TV interview is one of the craziest things I have ever heard.

    His lawyer scheduled it for him.

    Part of me hopes the lawyer did that on purpose.
    His lawyer scheduled the interview? A sane lawyer would threaten to quit if his client decided to do an interview like this.

    I read a comment somewhere that this interview might turn out to be Sandusky's suicide note.

    Originally, the interview was going to be of the lawyer. He then had the brilliant idea to let Sandusky speak for himself. Worst. Lawyer. Ever.

  • adytumadytum The Inevitable Rise And FallRegistered User regular
    a5ehren wrote:
    Druk wrote:
    When calling the attorney a cradle robber, that's going by the '1/2 Age + 7' rule, right? Because the age of consent in PA is 16.

    If you're damn near 50 and banging someone that's young enough that you'd have to get their parents' written permission to marry them, it's pretty safe to say you're a cradle robber. At a minimum, it's horribly unethical to bang a current/former client (of any age).

    According to the article she worked for his law firm and they were "friends" before he represented her for emancipation. So there was a personal relationship before he represented her.

    FWIW.

    Which isn't much.

  • Modern ManModern Man Registered User regular
    Druk wrote:
    When calling the attorney a cradle robber, that's going by the '1/2 Age + 7' rule, right? Because the age of consent in PA is 16.
    Just because a relationship is legal, doesn't mean it isn't creepy.

    A guy pushing 50 banging someone less than half his age is just creepy.

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  • a5ehrena5ehren AtlantaRegistered User regular
    adytum wrote:
    a5ehren wrote:
    Druk wrote:
    When calling the attorney a cradle robber, that's going by the '1/2 Age + 7' rule, right? Because the age of consent in PA is 16.

    If you're damn near 50 and banging someone that's young enough that you'd have to get their parents' written permission to marry them, it's pretty safe to say you're a cradle robber. At a minimum, it's horribly unethical to bang a current/former client (of any age).

    According to the article she worked for his law firm and they were "friends" before he represented her for emancipation. So there was a personal relationship before he represented her.

    FWIW.

    Which isn't much.

    Wow. So he was banging her (a subordinate employee at that), her parents wouldn't let them get married, so he had her legally emancipated? Super creepy.

  • 3lwap03lwap0 Registered User regular
    Elki wrote:
    That interview was the most uncomfortable thing I've ever seen/heard on television. Going forward, I'm going to pretend this case doesn't exist.

    Moral of this story:

    If you can't answer the question "Are you sexually attracted to young boys?" with "Absolutely not, don't be stupid." Then don't do the interview.

  • Modern ManModern Man Registered User regular
    3lwap0 wrote:
    Elki wrote:
    That interview was the most uncomfortable thing I've ever seen/heard on television. Going forward, I'm going to pretend this case doesn't exist.

    Moral of this story:

    If you can't answer the question "Are you sexually attracted to young boys?" with "Absolutely not, don't be stupid." Then don't do the interview.
    I'd go beyond that and say that if you find yourself in a situation where someone asking you that question is actually a realistic possibility, you shouldn't do the interview.

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  • rockrngerrockrnger Registered User regular
    One of the lawyers here could help me out but could this be a attempt Screw with the trial? I mean, smart money is on this guy going to jail for the rest if his life so the longer the trial takes the better off he is.

  • Modern ManModern Man Registered User regular
    It's not unheard of for lawyers in high profile cases to try and influence the public's perception of their client. I guess if you make your client seem more sympathetic, you hope to have a better shot with the jury.

    If that's what Sandusky and his lawyer were trying to do with this interview, I can't say that it was a success.

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    Kistra wrote:
    KalTorak wrote:
    Kids are like a Subway club card - get it punched every time you help a kid; turn in a fully-punched card for a guilt-free child-rape.

    Ugh, maybe now that the famous coach guy is gone the media will turn back to burning this motherfucker alive.

    Hahaha. You mean now that Paterno has been fired maybe the media will actually start talking about Sandusky? ESPN managed to talk about the scandal for 3 or 4 days without regularly mentioning anyone by name other than Paterno.

    Its disgusting that the media did this.

    Joe Paterno was wrong he admitted as much but maybe focus on the deranged sexual predator


    Yeah, someone who covers up child rape should be lauded! Because FOOTBALL.

  • Magus`Magus` The fun has been DOUBLED! Registered User regular
    Yeah, how dare they fire that dude for covering up rape. There's SPORTS to be done.

  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    I didn't say that at all you goose.

    I just see no reason in focusing on Paterno to the point where some people had no clue what Sanduskys name was.

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