[Skyrim] & [The Elder Scrolls] Skyrim's second update may bork the game! Be wary!

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  • CowSharkCowShark Registered User regular
    edited November 2011
    Tougher creatures -> better souls, as a general rule of thumb.

    A List!! (edit: a partial list)
    http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Souls

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  • flapjackflapjack Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote:
    I'll have to try and see if changing the ownership of windhelm lets me get the title and house from a none complete pole smoker. It might be just me, but most of the stormcloak leaning jarls are real jerk offs.

    Mild Civil War Questline spoilers:
    After you finish the questline and the new Jarl sits in Windhelm, he will allow you to purchase Hjerim from the steward. However, you will NOT be able to do this until you have completed Blood on the Ice (the murder mystery questline in Windhelm). I was personally unable to get this quest to trigger after completing the Civil War quests, and had to reload an old save to do it. My recommendation is finishing the Blood on the Ice quest, and then doing the Civil War quests, which will allow you to purchase the house without having to worry about bugging it out.

  • Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    Unless you plan to go mammoth hunting you really want the blackened Star of Azura.

    First time I went that route I felt slightly guilty. Then I kicked myself and reminded myself that Daedra are evil, even the "nice" ones.

  • valhalla130valhalla130 13 Dark Shield Perceives the GodsRegistered User regular
    The Whiterun House is a hole. The other houses can be set up for enchanting.

    http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/House_(Skyrim)

    The Whiterun house is a simple home for a simple man, who just wants to kill dragons.

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  • Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    The Whiterun House is a hole. The other houses can be set up for enchanting.

    http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/House_(Skyrim)

    The Whiterun house is a simple home for a simple man, who just wants to kill dragons.

    Simple hovels for simple people.

    I'll take my estate in Solitude, thank you very much. Once I figured out how to add a persistent apothecary satchel to the alchemy table with the console, it was literally a perfect home.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    flapjack wrote:
    Preacher wrote:
    I'll have to try and see if changing the ownership of windhelm lets me get the title and house from a none complete pole smoker. It might be just me, but most of the stormcloak leaning jarls are real jerk offs.

    Mild Civil War Questline spoilers:
    After you finish the questline and the new Jarl sits in Windhelm, he will allow you to purchase Hjerim from the steward. However, you will NOT be able to do this until you have completed Blood on the Ice (the murder mystery questline in Windhelm). I was personally unable to get this quest to trigger after completing the Civil War quests, and had to reload an old save to do it. My recommendation is finishing the Blood on the Ice quest, and then doing the Civil War quests, which will allow you to purchase the house without having to worry about bugging it out.

    I'd read about that bug, and figured I'd have to do that. Thanks for the confirmation.

    And homes are just places I leave my junk when I'm not out murdering everything that walks, runs, or shits in Skyrim.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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  • VicVic Registered User regular
    I have a project that I hope I will be able to see through today.

    One of my characters is a pure mage, but it turns out that my build is not that expensive perk-wise. Then I heard someone mention you could put weapons on a corpse before raising it from the dead.

    So now my plan is to put points in Smithing and make three sets of enchanted Ebony Armor. One for my Huscarl and two for my dead thralls who will now have almost perfect elemental immunity and incredibly powerful enchanted weapons.

    I expect them to get lost and despawn in the first dungeon I visit, but they should at least look cool!

  • MahnmutMahnmut Registered User regular
    The Whiterun House is a hole. The other houses can be set up for enchanting.

    http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/House_(Skyrim)

    The Whiterun house is a simple home for a simple man, who just wants to kill dragons.

    Whiterun's clearly the best town. It'll be nice to mod in a better residence there eventually, though.

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  • FleebFleeb has all of the fleeb juice Registered User regular
    Aaargh why do trolls only give lesser souls? How the hell does that make sense? Should be common at least.

  • korodullinkorodullin What. SCRegistered User regular
    The Whiterun House is a hole. The other houses can be set up for enchanting.

    http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/House_(Skyrim)

    The Whiterun house is a simple home for a simple man, who just wants to kill dragons.

    Simple hovels for simple people.

    I'll take my estate in Solitude, thank you very much. Once I figured out how to add a persistent apothecary satchel to the alchemy table with the console, it was literally a perfect home.

    I would very much like to know how you did that. I assume by finding the refID for the actual satchel item using the Help system, then placeatme?

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Fleeb wrote:
    Aaargh why do trolls only give lesser souls? How the hell does that make sense? Should be common at least.

    These are conservative trolls so their arguments are not as good as their liberal counterparts, which makes for a weaker soul.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    dinodynamo wrote:
    Minor complaint...I know it's a fantasy universe, populated with dragons, giants, and a plethora of fictional beings. That aside, the wildlife for the most part looks like creatures similar to the world that you and I are familiar with...even the Deer and Elk. Wait a minute...these creatures labeled as "deer" look and sound suspiciously like our universe's Elk. And the creatures labeled as "elk" look suspiciously like our universe's Moose.

    Doesn't detract from the game in anyway, but it made me raise an eyebrow when I noticed it.

    I have to admit, this bothered the hell out of me too.

    Its like if they renamed 'Horse' to goat and you had mountain horses instead of mountain goats.
    Cats called dogs and dogs called cats.

    Generally it doesn't detract, but it made me chuckle and maybe wonder if the people who made this haven't seen actual wildlife before.

    An elk is a type of deer, and moose are called elks in Europe.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Man how would a guy from kansas know what they call anything in europe?

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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  • NeliNeli Registered User regular
    edited November 2011
    A moose is called "älg" here, not moose or elk

    My immersion, broken

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  • lu tzelu tze Sweeping the monestary steps.Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote:
    Man how would a guy from kansas know what they call anything in europe?
    Book learnin'

    Don't concern yourself with that crap boy, nothing good ever comes from it!

    World's best janitor
  • EnderEnder Registered User regular
    Unless you plan to go mammoth hunting you really want the blackened Star of Azura.

    First time I went that route I felt slightly guilty. Then I kicked myself and reminded myself that Daedra are evil, even the "nice" ones.

    I've heard this said before. Can you explain why?

  • Dronus86Dronus86 Now with cheese!Registered User regular
    The Whiterun House is a hole. The other houses can be set up for enchanting.

    http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/House_(Skyrim)

    The Whiterun house is a simple home for a simple man, who just wants to kill dragons.

    Simple hovels for simple people.

    I'll take my estate in Solitude, thank you very much. Once I figured out how to add a persistent apothecary satchel to the alchemy table with the console, it was literally a perfect home.

    That is all I want. I bought the house with all the upgrades, and was upset when I have to travel SO FAR to get my ingredients. My ingredients weigh over 250 pounds, by the way. So many chaurus eggs.

    Look at me. Look at me. Look at how large the monster inside me has become.
    Crunch Crunch! Munch Munch! Chomp Chomp! Gulp!
  • korodullinkorodullin What. SCRegistered User regular
    edited November 2011
    Unless you plan to go mammoth hunting you really want the blackened Star of Azura.

    First time I went that route I felt slightly guilty. Then I kicked myself and reminded myself that Daedra are evil, even the "nice" ones.

    The Black Star can hold normal souls too. I've captured Lesser and Common souls in it.

    Also, Charus Reapers having only Common souls is a grave injustice.

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  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    It's one of those weird coincidences - this morning I was reading an anecdote about Tycho Brahe, the astronomer, and his pet moose that he liked to get drunk and that finally died when it drunkenly fell down some stairs. The article specifically pointed out that Tycho called it an "elk" in his letters.

  • EnderEnder Registered User regular
    korodullin wrote:
    Unless you plan to go mammoth hunting you really want the blackened Star of Azura.

    First time I went that route I felt slightly guilty. Then I kicked myself and reminded myself that Daedra are evil, even the "nice" ones.

    The Black Star can hold normal souls too. I've captured Lesser and Common souls in it.

    Also, Charus Reapers having only Common souls is a grave injustice.

    You certain about that? I've noticed that black souls also come in ranks, but even with much testing, I have never captured a white soul in my Black Star.

    Try it - have no empty gems except the star in your inventory, and kill a wolf. Gives me the "you don't have a soul gem size etc etc etc" message.

  • General PengwinGeneral Pengwin The Last of a Dying Fanbase Long IslandRegistered User regular
    korodullin wrote:
    Unless you plan to go mammoth hunting you really want the blackened Star of Azura.

    First time I went that route I felt slightly guilty. Then I kicked myself and reminded myself that Daedra are evil, even the "nice" ones.

    The Black Star can hold normal souls too. I've captured Lesser and Common souls in it.

    Also, Charus Reapers having only Common souls is a grave injustice.

    Charus in general should be overall more rewarding to kill. After my first time encountering them in a particular ship-friendly building, I've since avoided them like the plague.

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  • MahnmutMahnmut Registered User regular
    In High Gate ruins,
    I teamed up with the deadly and charming "Sometimes I just like to watch them burn" Anska. It's too bad she's not a potential companion.

    What mages are good companions?

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  • korodullinkorodullin What. SCRegistered User regular
    Ender wrote:
    korodullin wrote:
    Unless you plan to go mammoth hunting you really want the blackened Star of Azura.

    First time I went that route I felt slightly guilty. Then I kicked myself and reminded myself that Daedra are evil, even the "nice" ones.

    The Black Star can hold normal souls too. I've captured Lesser and Common souls in it.

    Also, Charus Reapers having only Common souls is a grave injustice.

    You certain about that? I've noticed that black souls also come in ranks, but even with much testing, I have never captured a white soul in my Black Star.

    Try it - have no empty gems except the star in your inventory, and kill a wolf. Gives me the "you don't have a soul gem size etc etc etc" message.

    I just consoled in The Black Star, dropped every soul gem in my inventory, spawned in a couple soul trap daggers for expediency, and whacked a snow bear. I now have The Black Star in my inventory with a Common soul in it.

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  • Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    korodullin wrote:
    The Whiterun House is a hole. The other houses can be set up for enchanting.

    http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/House_(Skyrim)

    The Whiterun house is a simple home for a simple man, who just wants to kill dragons.

    Simple hovels for simple people.

    I'll take my estate in Solitude, thank you very much. Once I figured out how to add a persistent apothecary satchel to the alchemy table with the console, it was literally a perfect home.

    I would very much like to know how you did that. I assume by finding the refID for the actual satchel item using the Help system, then placeatme?

    Correct.

    help "satchel" 4

    Then

    player.placeatme 000xxx 1

    The trick really was getting myself positioned so that when the satchel spawned it clipped minimally with the table. Sadly, you cannot adjust that sort of item so it's extremely trial and error. And some objects will just never seat nicely on a given surface, and some will not sit nicely anywhere.

    I tried to decorate the exterior of my home with a juniper tree (which looks lovely) but it just will not spawn decently so I gave up.

  • MongerMonger I got the ham stink. Dallas, TXRegistered User regular
    So we have Skyrim mods in the OP now, huh? Has anyone recommended PhoiPhois Better Snow? It doesn't touch the snowy road texture, unfortunately, but it's otherwise goddamn beautiful.

  • Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    The Black Star is only supposed to hold black souls (which are always grand souls) but due to a bug it functions as intended, but also as a vanilla Star of Azura.

  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    not to derail, but the real time shooting in NV was MUCH better than in Fallout 3. It basically made the game playable if you didn't want to use VATS.

    Also the only flaw in the Whiterun house is that it doesn't have an enchantment table. Everything else is awesome. You're right between three blacksmith shops, a general goods store to sell whatever you need to, and it's cozy....

    are YOU on the beer list?
  • korodullinkorodullin What. SCRegistered User regular
    The Black Star is only supposed to hold black souls (which are always grand souls) but due to a bug it functions as intended, but also as a vanilla Star of Azura.

    Correct. So unless you really, really want the follower you can get as a reward (who is actually a very good companion NPC), always go for the Black Star.

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  • Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
  • General PengwinGeneral Pengwin The Last of a Dying Fanbase Long IslandRegistered User regular
    not to derail, but the real time shooting in NV was MUCH better than in Fallout 3. It basically made the game playable if you didn't want to use VATS.

    Also the only flaw in the Whiterun house is that it doesn't have an enchantment table. Everything else is awesome. You're right between three blacksmith shops, a general goods store to sell whatever you need to, and it's cozy....

    I have to say, I strongly agree about the Whiterun house. Running all the way to the castle just to enchant stuff is a little obnoxious, but the house in general is nice.

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  • NeliNeli Registered User regular
    edited November 2011
    Ender wrote:

    First time I went that route I felt slightly guilty. Then I kicked myself and reminded myself that Daedra are evil, even the "nice" ones.

    I've heard this said before. Can you explain why?
    I don't know so much about elder scrolls lore, but here's what the internet says;
    In the Elder Scrolls universe, Daedra are not easily defined within the ordinary bounds of good or evil, however due to the destructive acts of some Daedric princes they have come to be regarded by most as evil beings. Amongst the majority of Tamriel's populace, the Daedra are seen as naturally evil, as many concepts of evil are directly relative to the mortal world (i.e. destruction is evil, and chaos is evil), though the Daedra are simply different in and of themselves, being entities of change. As such, their evilness is not borne out of malice, but out of genuinely conflicting natures. Similarly, humans who evince Daedric behavior are commonly thought evil, as that sort of behavior often controverts the natural order.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Cozy? Is that what we're calling it?

    Ok then.

    I imagine you saying this with two snaps.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    edited November 2011
    Okay, so I now know the 360 glitches to get unlimited skill points in sneak, speech, archery, and pickpocket....

    I'm going to have a lvl 40 badass coming out the gate... I'm going to kill everyone so hard

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  • HeisenbergHeisenberg Registered User regular
    Fuck all Daedra just for The House of Horrors quest.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Okay, so I now know the 360 glitches to get unlimited skill points in sneak, speech, archery, and pickpocket....

    I'm going to have a lvl 40 badass coming out the gate... I'm going to kill everyone so hard

    Wait archery and pickpocket... Tell me more.

    And the house of horrors quest is nothing compared to the other daedra quest in Markarth.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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  • MahnmutMahnmut Registered User regular
    http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197991839457/screenshot/595829056131160786

    My Whiterun got disturbing. Fast-traveled in and found this. D:

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Mahnmut wrote:
    http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197991839457/screenshot/595829056131160786

    My Whiterun got disturbing. Fast-traveled in and found this. D:

    What the... WHAT DID YOU DO!?

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
  • General PengwinGeneral Pengwin The Last of a Dying Fanbase Long IslandRegistered User regular
    Mahnmut wrote:
    http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197991839457/screenshot/595829056131160786

    My Whiterun got disturbing. Fast-traveled in and found this. D:

    That's not strange or anything...

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  • EnderEnder Registered User regular
    The Black Star is only supposed to hold black souls (which are always grand souls) but due to a bug it functions as intended, but also as a vanilla Star of Azura.

    That's weird, I thought for sure it didn't work for me. Maybe I'll have to check it again.

  • FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    Preacher wrote:
    Mahnmut wrote:
    http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197991839457/screenshot/595829056131160786

    My Whiterun got disturbing. Fast-traveled in and found this. D:

    What the... WHAT DID YOU DO!?

    The crossed arms and subtitle make the screenshot.

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