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Selling games for an engagement ring

mrendelsmrendels Registered User new member
edited December 2011 in Help / Advice Forum
I have been dating my current girlfriend for about 4 years now, and have been wanting to get an engagement ring for her since July, but I haven't had any luck saving up money. I was student teaching this last semester, so I basically worked a 50-60 hour a week unpaid job which doesn't really help with putting money away (I've had enough trouble just putting gas in my car). So far, eBaying off a bunch of my old games sounds like the best way for me to get the money I need for the ring I want to get her.

I have a few concerns about this, but I think that it could work out. I would be selling the games on my friends eBay account so she wouldn't notice any activity on mine. I thought it would be easiest to ship the games from my friends house too, and I could just sneak them over one weekend when she is out Christmas shopping. The only thing I am really worried about is the timing, it seems like a bad time of year to sell collectibles when people are buying gifts for others. Most of what I am selling are Working Designs games, harder to find PS1 and PS2 JRPGs, and some SNES games like EarthBound.

Would there be enough people buying games like these at this time of year? I am hoping to propose to my girlfriend at the end of January, so should I list things now, or maybe wait until after the holiday season?

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  • TraceofToxinTraceofToxin King Nothing Registered User regular
    Don't you think the holiday season is when people would be BUYING these types of things? They make good gifts. Also, immediately after the holidays because lots of people get cash as gifts.

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    Just tossing this out there, but so you think selling your stuff to buy a ring is the best idea?

    Sounds like you've got a money issue, and whether that's due to choices by you, or just how it's worked out is something I'd suggest figuring out before you propose.

    Does she know your financial situation? If she does, and is asking/hinting for a ring, probably not the best idea. If she doesn't know, that's something you'll want to discuss with her before things go further.

  • WonderMinkWonderMink Adventure! Candy IslandRegistered User regular
    I don't know how much money you expect to get from old video games, but I seriously doubt it is engagement ring amounts.

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  • JuliusJulius Captain of Serenity on my shipRegistered User regular
    mrendels wrote:
    Would there be enough people buying games like these at this time of year? I am hoping to propose to my girlfriend at the end of January, so should I list things now, or maybe wait until after the holiday season?

    People will buy them now. Hell, there are probably plenty of people on these forums willing to buy. Especially the rares ones.

  • wonderpugwonderpug Registered User regular
    Do you know how much you want to spend on the ring?

  • zilozilo Registered User regular
    Are you planning on a courthouse wedding? Because if you can't scratch up enough for a ring you're going to give yourself a stroke when you start looking at how much a wedding costs these days.

    That said, you may have missed the prime collectibles-for-Christmas season, November seems to be the sweet spot. It doesn't hurt to do your research, see what you can reasonably expect, and give it the ol' college try though.

  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    Buying an engagement ring when you are short on funds is fucking stupid. I'm sorry, but it just is. Money was tight for my fiancee (now wife) and I, so we made the choice to skip the engagement ring and put the extra money towards a better life in other areas together. Hell, if you can't even afford an engagement ring, how are you going to fund the wedding itself? And I would think the wedding would be money better spent - you're never going to see the ring again once you're married.

    Do what you want, of course, but if money is so tight for the two of you that you have to scrape for an engagement ring, it would be retarded to buy one. They are NOT necessary.

  • Stravinsky0Stravinsky0 Registered User regular
    I just bought a ring for my girlfriend myself, and one thing to note is that sometimes you can get some very nice payment plans as well. For example, I got the ring from Rogers and Hollands with their credit plan, which has no interest at all for a full year. So as long as you are able to have the money together to afford the ring, you may not necessarily have to lay out all the money in advance and still not deal with interest on the cost. Still want to be very sure you don't spend outside your means, but not having to pay one up front lump sum can be very helpful.

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  • ahavaahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    I know you said that you've been together for 4 years, but think about this for a brief moment.

    should, in the event that things go sour and she says 'no' or things get really bad and you guys split up after the engagement, will you regret selling those games?

    I say this as a female, do not sell something that you are going to regret giving up. because that regret leads to resentment, and that can be very unhealthy.

    If, however, you are convinced that you don't want these games, you will never replay them and they have no real sentimental value, then by all means go for it and Mazel Tov.

    of course, as others are saying, there might be better things to spend the money on, if you're in a tight enough spot that you have to sell your possessions. But that is ultimately up to you.

  • FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    I actually sold my Wii and all games/accessories a few years back around the time I was buying my wife's ring. It wasn't a sale to fund the ring, but it helped regardless. I ended up getting around $1000 for everything by just listing everything on Kijiji and having people come by to buy things.

    One tip I found useful: never have change. That sounds stupid, but if someone drives all the way to your house to buy a $10 game and only brings a $20, then they're going to have to buy another game!

    But still, do you really think you're going to scrounge up enough money for a ring? Do you have time to work somewhere over the holidays to make some extra cash? What about shoveling driveways? Walking dogs? Ask around your neighbourhood. When you get a really good snowfall, just wake up early and go offer to shovel driveways for $10-$20. I know I'd throw someone $10 if it meant that I didn't have to get bundled up and go out there to do it.

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  • Pure DinPure Din Boston-areaRegistered User regular
    If my boyfriend sold a ton of hard to find JRPGs to buy me a piece of jewelry I'd kick him.

  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    JebusUD wrote:
    I don't know how much money you expect to get from old video games, but I seriously doubt it is engagement ring amounts.

    This. People tend to grossly overvalue what their games are worth. Wait till you have the money rather than selling things (or if you do, only to supplement the cost) so you can get something memorable.

  • LibrarianLibrarian The face of liberal fascism Registered User regular
    I know you said that you've been together for 4 years, but think about this for a brief moment.

    should, in the event that things go sour and she says 'no' or things get really bad and you guys split up after the engagement, will you regret selling those games?

    I say this as a female, do not sell something that you are going to regret giving up. because that regret leads to resentment, and that can be very unhealthy.

    If, however, you are convinced that you don't want these games, you will never replay them and they have no real sentimental value, then by all means go for it and Mazel Tov.

    of course, as others are saying, there might be better things to spend the money on, if you're in a tight enough spot that you have to sell your possessions. But that is ultimately up to you.

    I totally second this minus the being female part.

  • MagicToasterMagicToaster JapanRegistered User regular
    Don't buy something you can't afford. Stable finances in marriage are infinetly better than a nice ring.

  • Skoal CatSkoal Cat Registered User regular
    Consider that women wind up with two rings in most situations, an engagement ring and a wedding ring. Some women wear both since they were designed to match, some women wear both because one is a simple band, some women wear just one on their finger and keep the other on a chain as a necklace, some women rotate between the two, etc. You can also usually get a placeholder from a jeweler if you're going to buy a ring from them.

    Point being, you don't need to spend a bunch of money on the engagement ring, even if having a really nice ring is important to you.

  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    Don't buy something you can't afford. Stable finances in marriage are infinetly better than a nice ring.

    Was just coming to post this. Get in a place where you aren't financially fucked before you propose. I mean, if you're inviting this woman to share your life, get your life sorted first.

    If you can afford to sock away $100 a month for savings and stuff, go ahead and sell your games and buy a ring. If not, selling your shit to put yourself further in the hole is probably sub optimal.

  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    Skoal Cat wrote:
    Consider that women wind up with two rings in most situations, an engagement ring and a wedding ring. Some women wear both since they were designed to match, some women wear both because one is a simple band, some women wear just one on their finger and keep the other on a chain as a necklace, some women rotate between the two, etc. You can also usually get a placeholder from a jeweler if you're going to buy a ring from them.

    Point being, you don't need to spend a bunch of money on the engagement ring, even if having a really nice ring is important to you.

    Ehhh....wedding rings are generally a damn sight cheaper than engagement rings.

  • BowenBowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Yeah hunks of metal are pretty cheap compared to artificially inflated carbon rocks.

  • wonderpugwonderpug Registered User regular
    One budget ring option is to choose a nice setting that's in your budget and then skimp on the diamond. When you and your wife are more settled financially, upgrade the diamond as an anniversary gift.

  • JansonJanson Registered User regular
    wonderpug wrote:
    One budget ring option is to choose a nice setting that's in your budget and then skimp on the diamond. When you and your wife are more settled financially, upgrade the diamond as an anniversary gift.

    Or, don't get a diamond at all... there are plenty of beautiful alternatives out there.

    I'd like to second @lonelyahava's post, and I'll also add that as much as I liked my (inexpensive, sapphire) engagement ring, I really only ever wear my wedding ring. This is because I turned out to have an allergic reaction to the former (:(), but it certainly is more practical and comfortable to just wear the one ring anyway.

  • WildEEPWildEEP Registered User regular
    You said you already picked out a ring. How much are we talking here?

  • DisrupterDisrupter Registered User regular
    I'm going to second the "if you can't afford the ring you can't afford to get married" thing here. I'll take it a step forward and say you can't afford to BE married. Why put crazy stress on a relationship like that? What rush is there to be married if you can't afford it? I wouldn't take those major life steps until you have your financial situation stabalized with the current step.

    I think sometimes folks romanticize being poor and in love. Not saying that's what is happening here. But either way, you don't need the title of husband, I'm sure your lady knows/understand your financial position and wont hold waiting to get married against you. And if she doesn't know... thats not a good place to start an engagement/marriage from.

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  • Jebus314Jebus314 Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    I just wanted to jump in and post the oppisite of the "if you can't afford a ring don't get married" advice. I think that is terrible advice. Do not put your life on hold because your finances aren't lined up. That being said you need to be realistic. Even basic rings cost a fair bit of money, and weddings are ridiculously expensive. I DO NOT recommend going into heavy debt, or hawking all of your prized possessions, just to propose/get married. I DO recommend proposing/getting married on a lesser budget if possible, or waiting until finances come around. Some ideas for proposing now on a lesser budget:

    -Buy a nice band with a cheap rock. The rock can be updated later when you have more cash, or not.
    -Buy a wedding band now and get the engagement ring later. This seems odd but wedding bands tend to be more plain without the huge rock, which makes them significantly cheaper. Plus if you end up giving both anyways, does it matter which one is actually used for the proposal?
    -Don't buy a ring at all right now. Come up with some really cool way to propose, and just leave out the ring. I don't think proposing with a ring is as big of a deal to a lot of women, as it is for the men. It just seems like you have to have the ring to propose, but honestly with a little creative effort it can be just as fun and romantic without the actual ring.
    -In a similar vain as the don't buy a ring right now idea, get a place holder ring. Something that's simple and nice that she could wear on another finger later on if she chooses. That way you have something to symbolize your commitment now, but you can still get a nicer wedding ring/engagement ring later on. This works well if you were only planning on getting the one ring anyway.

    As far as the game selling goes, I'm not sure you will be able to predict either way. Before christmas you will benefit from people buying games as gifts, after christmas you will benefit from people buying games for themselves with christmas gift money. Honestly your best bet is to decide what you are willing to accept for the games and post them now, with a minimum. If they don't sell you can try again in January. If they still don't sell, then you'll have to consider dropping the price. Maybe others will come along and tell me I'm full of it, but I just can't see there being a significant change in the acceptable market price for your games between now and January.

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  • Kuroi OokamiKuroi Ookami Registered User regular
    Pure Din wrote:
    If my boyfriend sold a ton of hard to find JRPGs to buy me a piece of jewelry I'd kick him.

    I'd lime this if I knew how. I don't know if Pure Din is a gamer, but I'm guessing yes. I am also a gamer and if my boyfriend did this to buy me an engagement ring I'd be so pissed off with him. First, I like to keep all my games, have never sold or traded one. Never intend to. I would not want my boyfriend to either.

    Even if I wasn't a gamer, if my boyfriend auctioned off hard to find items he owned, to buy me said ring, that I likely wouldn't wear after we were married, I'd be angry. He might one day be angry he did it and resentful towards me and the situation. And those are his hard to find things, that makes them special. I wouldn't want my boyfriend to give up his special items for me, not for jewelery of any sort.

    Propose when you plan to if you'd like, times are changing. I've heard of people doing it without the ring, with a simple ring, or even a ring out of a toy machine for the silliness of it (depends on her humor levels)

    Really though... Don't sell off things (anything) just to buy a piece of jewelery. What if you both end up in a bad time and you can't afford rent. She's really going to hate that ring, and maybe even you.

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  • Skoal CatSkoal Cat Registered User regular
    Anyone can afford to get married, it just depends on how much you want to spend.

  • wonderpugwonderpug Registered User regular
    I second everything Jebus314 just said.

  • WonderMinkWonderMink Adventure! Candy IslandRegistered User regular
    edited December 2011
    At the same time, women can be upset by you not getting a ring. Or getting something too chintzy. Everyone likes to think that they are a reasonable person, but when it comes to things like this, people have been told since they were old enough to understand, by society, that the ring means certain things and must be a certain way. All the reason in the world might not be enough to overcome the programmed emotional response. You don't want her to feel bad or resentful about what you give her. I'd suggest waiting and finding extra ways to make money, enough to get something you know she will be pleased with, rather than pawning your stuff and getting something cheap.

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  • Kuroi OokamiKuroi Ookami Registered User regular
    They've been together for 4 years, he should have a pretty good idea of how his gf would feel about no ring, or a less than sparkly flashy ring. I think my boyfriend and I talked about engagement rings 3 years in. I was showing him pictures of what I thought looked nice from one of those build it yourself websites. i explained to him I was on that site because someone posted a thread here and that site got linked, and I was having fun playing with the build tool *completely true*. He said while mine were ok looking, they seemed on the cheap side. I have learned that my bf thinks engagement rings need to be expensive. Hoping to change his mind about this.

    Point is, since I seemed to have gotten off track, but didn't, is; he should know her well enough to know how upset she would be depending on which situation he goes with "not getting a ring. Or getting something too chintzy" etc.

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  • XArchangelXXArchangelX Registered User regular
    I also have an opinion on this fine topic.

    Straightening out your finances beforehand is a seriously vital part of a successful marriage. One of the biggest causes for divorce is arguing over money problems, and there are a LOT of divorces in the US. Best the both of you be on the same page on that issue.

    When buying the ring, for god's sake don't go near a mall or retail store. Keep an eye on craigslist/wholesale outlets, be patient, take the time for due diligence and learn about rings and rocks and their value. Maybe do some 1v1 tutoring, can make some decent additional coin. Use a real budget, and just keep it tight. I would also go along with what others here said about getting something cheap now and upgrading later when you have dentist money.

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited December 2011
    Selling a bunch of prized possessions to finance an engagement ring that you otherwise would not be able to afford, when you presumably have not yet budgeted for a wedding ring or even the wedding ceremony itself, is a stupid financial decision.

    And you should think carefully about marrying someone who demands this sort of stupid financial decision, if indeed she does demand it.

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  • FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    How did this go from "what's the best way to sell this stuff" to "please judge me and my girlfriend, as well as her tastes?"

    OP: If you want to sell some stuff to buy a ring, more power to ya. However, I don't think you're going to get very much from those games, and it's certainly not going to be enough to buy an engagement ring.

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  • EtchEtch Registered User regular
    You all do realize that getting engaged does not mean the wedding is tomorrow right? An engagement can last well over a year, and in that time finances can change dramatically. Plus a wedding really isn't that expensive if you shop smart. Other than the catering, which would have been cheaper but my mom instead on getting an expensive one and paying for it, my wedding costs were maybe around $400.

  • KillgrimageKillgrimage Registered User regular
    For cheaper ring options: for political reasons I let my husband know I in no way wanted him to buy a diamond. However, I did want a diamond engagement ring. How did I reconcile this? I asked him to use an heirloom diamond(s) from his family. His mom had a few tiny rocks and one medium stone she never wore anymore. He got a nice band, free good quality diamonds, and no guilt from supporting the diamond trade. Just something to consider if your or her family have jewels they no longer use.

  • zilozilo Registered User regular
    $400? Lucky. Mine was a 20-person Vegas wedding and it cost $10k. The average cost of a wedding in the US is over $25k, with a majority spending between $20k and $30k. Can you save up $25k in a year? Two years? Not me, and I'm a lot more financially secure than the OP. It can be done for $50 at the county courthouse but that's not a likely scenario.

    @Figgy: If somebody posted on these boards to ask "How do I remove my own appendix?", I think we'd be in the right by telling them "Dude, don't remove your own appendix, you're going to die, go see a doctor." There's no judgement here, when I met my wife I was poorer than the OP (I'd already sold everything I had that was worth selling for food and rent) but we still made it work by not rushing into any bad financial decisions. It took me two years to save up enough to ask her to marry me.

    Here's my advice to the OP: don't buy a ring yet. If you have to sell stuff to raise money, you can't afford it. Talk to your girlfriend, make it clear that marriage is in your future and you're saving up money, and make sure you're both in the same page. There's no need to do the "gotcha!" out-of-the-blue proposal. Even if she knows it's coming, the when and where still makes it special. If you've already talked about it with her, good for you. But don't go pawning your possessions.

  • FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    @zilo Right, but comments like
    And you should think carefully about marrying someone who demands this sort of stupid financial decision, if indeed she does demand it.

    are entirely unwarranted.

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  • zilozilo Registered User regular
    Yeah, that's off-base for sure. No need to leap to conclusions about the future-fiancee. Since the OP hasn't posted again, for all we know all she wants is one of those whistle rings you get out of a plastic egg.

  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    For cheaper ring options: for political reasons I let my husband know I in no way wanted him to buy a diamond. However, I did want a diamond engagement ring. How did I reconcile this? I asked him to use an heirloom diamond(s) from his family. His mom had a few tiny rocks and one medium stone she never wore anymore. He got a nice band, free good quality diamonds, and no guilt from supporting the diamond trade. Just something to consider if your or her family have jewels they no longer use.

    This is what I did for my wife. I used heirloom diamonds and made a beautiful ring (which is awesome because while I didn't forge it in the fires of Mount Doom I did create it from the ground up) for about 1/10 the cost of buying one.

    Not sure if that's an option for the OP, but if you've got a mom that supports the marriage, she's probably got a fair bit of jewelry with diamonds that she hasn't worn in 15 years she'd be willing to part with.

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  • Lindsay LohanLindsay Lohan Registered User regular
    I know costs have increased (I got engaged about 13 years ago) but I was in school and not terribly well off and I got a charge card with a jewelry store and got a $600ish ring with it. I know it wasn't the best decision financially, but the bill wasn't a major burden, the credit rate was good on it, and it allowed me to get engaged.

    I second the question of "How much of a ring are you shopping for?"

  • faerielaurelynfaerielaurelyn Vancouver, BCRegistered User regular
    Well it all depends on how the fiancee feels and what she knows - given the circumstances, if she understands that right now finances aren't the best, a simple placeholder "promise" ring, even something silver and under $100 would work. You can still ask her to marry you and be engaged, with the promise of "the perfect ring" when things are better. It may be cheesy to say, but it's the thought that counts. Rather than risking the above-mentioned resentment, and maybe keeping those games around for a much more dire time (hey, if things get worse they could keep you off the street), let her know what's in your heart, and I'm sure she will understand.

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    My wife explicitly stated she didn't want a diamond (same as killgrimage) but she wanted something like a diamond. So we both picked out a synthetic one together.
    zilo wrote:
    $400? Lucky.
    It's not luck, it's planning and work. My wife and I had a wedding with 80ish people. We spent about $500 of our own money (my parents covered the use fee and donation to the church for the pastor's time, which was only about another $150). Our wedding cake was white-chocolate raspberry cheesecake. We made it ourselves. Even counting my parent's contribution we actually ended up pulling a profit on our wedding. Not to make it sound super mercenary. We were surprised ourselves.

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