A Tale as Old as Time, A Song as Old as Rhyme

DJ Eebs

Tangled is pretty good! It felt really slight, though.

Legba

Speaking of Mulan, here's a battle scene from the live action movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzPU1cN-hbo

Skip to 1:10 to get past the preamble.

Sassori

The Geek wrote:

Bolt was okay. I liked Meet the Robinsons better.

I really love Meet the Robinsons

DJ Eebs

Zonugal wrote:

The Geebs That Is A Pony wrote:

I mean, it's no Hamlet featuring animals, but ...

oooh, look at the clever guy

Edcrab

Where?

DJ Eebs

right there! good job edcrab

Bucketman

We had Beauty and the Beast in HD as a special event about 6 months ago, and I loved it. Sat up in the booth and watched it. Really excited for it in 3D. Also I think they are releasing Finding Nemo in 3D this summer, which is also exciting

Edcrab

The Geebs That Is A Pony wrote:

right there! good job edcrab

My teeth hurt and I've forgotten what I was doing

WeedLordVegeta

All I'm saying is that great mouse detective best be next on the 3D remake train

release it the weekend after the third RDJ Sherlock Holmes film

DJ Eebs

I think Aladdin and Little Mermaid are both on their list of things to make.

And the Lion King managed to stay away from a lot of the gender role/racism problem that a lot of Disney movies struggle with, I think. I mean, there's the "SCAR IS AN EVIL GAY UNCLE WTF DISNEY" thing, but I think that's...not actually a thing.

takyris

I feel bad for Mulan for all the hate it gets. The lack of historical doesn't bother me personaly, and having seen it fairly recently, I didn't see the Mongols as particularly horrible. They were bad guys, but they were competent bad guys and didn't seem like racial caricatures, just... bad guys.

Again, I am officially a blind white guy on this one. I was just pleased that Disney was doing something with people of color and treating it more seriously than they did Pocafrickinghontas.

Would it have been better without Eddie Murphy?

Muggins

No

Eddie Murphy made that movie

Tox

Went on my very first date to this movie when it was in theaters.

Bucketman

The Geebs That Is A Pony wrote:

I think Aladdin and Little Mermaid are both on their list of things to make.

And the Lion King managed to stay away from a lot of the gender role/racism problem that a lot of Disney movies struggle with, I think. I mean, there's the "SCAR IS AN EVIL GAY UNCLE WTF DISNEY" thing, but I think that's...not actually a thing.

A lot of people were murmmering about Lion King being slightly racist because the hyenas were all minority voices. Also because it was a stolen from the Japanease. But man I don't care. LION KING

takyris

Also, I will take your collective word for it that this 3D stuff is good for this movie. When I saw the commercial for BatB3D, I thought it was shitting on my childhood, so I'm glad to hear that it is apparently not doing so.

Antimatter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp_-sgX0M0I
(mulan is a good movie fuck y'all)

takyris

Bucketman wrote:

The Geebs That Is A Pony wrote:

I think Aladdin and Little Mermaid are both on their list of things to make.

And the Lion King managed to stay away from a lot of the gender role/racism problem that a lot of Disney movies struggle with, I think. I mean, there's the "SCAR IS AN EVIL GAY UNCLE WTF DISNEY" thing, but I think that's...not actually a thing.

A lot of people were murmmering about Lion King being slightly racist because the hyenas were all minority voices. Also because it was a stolen from the Japanease. But man I don't care. LION KING

I don't quite get that. Yeah, the hyenas were people of color... except that Ed is played by Jim Cummings, who, I don't know, doesn't look like a PoC in his IMDB pictures? And Mufasa is voiced by a person of color, as is Simba's mom and Rafiki. The useless comic relief guys are pretty much all white (Timon, Pumbaa, and Zazu), as is the big villain. So while, yes, there are some people of color, and there are some villains, you can't quite say "All the villains are PoC, and the good guys are all white."

Jars

The Geebs That Is A Pony wrote:

I think Aladdin and Little Mermaid are both on their list of things to make.

And the Lion King managed to stay away from a lot of the gender role/racism problem that a lot of Disney movies struggle with, I think. I mean, there's the "SCAR IS AN EVIL GAY UNCLE WTF DISNEY" thing, but I think that's...not actually a thing.

I thought they stand out a lot

everyone bows down to the lion because he's born a lion and therefor better than you
gay uncle and mexican hyenas already mentioned
all the female lions sit around waiting for simba to rescue them. seriously there's like 10 of you go kill scar. I remember thinking why aren't they doing anything even when I was a kid
maybe some other stuff I haven't seen it in many years

Walt

takyris wrote:

Also, I will take your collective word for it that this 3D stuff is good for this movie. When I saw the commercial for BatB3D, I thought it was shitting on my childhood, so I'm glad to hear that it is apparently not doing so.

After seeing the Blu Ray for this more times than I am comfortable admitting I have absolute faith in Disney's ability to re-master this movie.

PiptheFair

also who is excited for studio ghibli doing a The Borrowers adaptation

takyris

Jars wrote:

I thought they stand out a lot

everyone bows down to the lion because he's born a lion and therefor better than you
gay uncle and mexican hyenas already mentioned
all the female lions sit around waiting for simba to rescue them. seriously there's like 10 of you go kill scar. I remember thinking why aren't they doing anything even when I was a kid
maybe some other stuff I haven't seen it in many years

So you're angry that a movie explicitly stated in the title as being about kings contained class stuff about people bowing down to and respecting the authority of kings?

Honestly never saw Scar as gay, although I appear to be in the minority there. I actually felt bad for Sarafi for having to mate with him while he was king. Where is he set up as gay?

Liiya

PiptheFair wrote:

also who is excited for studio ghibli doing a The Borrowers adaptation

I am.

Antimatter

takyris wrote:

Honestly never saw Scar as gay, although I appear to be in the minority there. I actually felt bad for Sarafi for having to mate with him while he was king. Where is he set up as gay?

"you're weird, uncle Scar."
"You have no idea."

is usually something pointed to, along with his voice and preening. I'm not sure I agree, but whatevs.

Edcrab

Scar never really struck me as gay and the hyenas never really struck me as Mexican

I guess I was an unobservant kid

PiptheFair

wait scar is gay

what

when was this

Antimatter

Edcrab wrote:

Scar never really struck me as gay and the hyenas never really struck me as Mexican

I guess I was an unobservant kid

the Mexican thing I can kind of see maybe? barely.

if we're talking about things we missed from the lion king

PiptheFair

the hyenas were about as cholo as you could get without a fucking serape and low rider

Antimatter

PiptheFair wrote:

wait scar is gay

what

when was this

SENSATIONAL news

Tox

That seems to presume a lot of stereotypes about gay people though, imo.

Scar wasn't weird because he was gay. He was weird because he was evil, and consorting with hyenas.

PiptheFair

like I thought he was just a snydley whiplash level effete schemer

Antimatter

Tox wrote:

That seems to presume a lot of stereotypes about gay people though, imo.

Scar wasn't weird because he was gay. He was weird because he was evil, and consorting with hyenas.

i agree, personally

Centipede Damascus

PiptheFair wrote:

also who is excited for studio ghibli doing a The Borrowers adaptation

me me, I am

Tox

Antimatter wrote:

Tox wrote:

That seems to presume a lot of stereotypes about gay people though, imo.

Scar wasn't weird because he was gay. He was weird because he was evil, and consorting with hyenas.

i agree, personally

I mean it's one thing to point out obvious stuff. Like if a character had a large nose, used yiddish slang, and acted miserly, yeah, you could say that character is meant to portray jews in a negative light, even if the creator claims it wasn't intentional.

but Scar doesn't do any of those types of things. They're just presuming stuff that is stereotypical and ascribing it to him, basically making it up out of whole cloth.

Jars

clearly I'm frothing at the mouth over the issue

takyris

The problem is that Scar is the classic intellectual villain -- the sinister scheming vizier character who pulls strings to get what he wants. It feels to me like because that type of character was often ALSO made gay in other stories as a primitive and offensive way to show the audience that the character was an evil deviant, the audience now assumes that anyone who is that character type is also gay.

Is Jaffar from Aladdin also gay?

Raijin Quickfoot

Jaffar totally loves the cock. The whole movie takes place because he is secretly in love with Aladdin and is disappointed in his current lover, Gilbert Godfried.

Jars

also the lion king ruined the reputation of hyenas who are totally awesome

Taya

takyris wrote:

The problem is that Scar is the classic intellectual villain -- the sinister scheming vizier character who pulls strings to get what he wants. It feels to me like because that type of character was often ALSO made gay in other stories as a primitive and offensive way to show the audience that the character was an evil deviant, the audience now assumes that anyone who is that character type is also gay.

Is Jaffar from Aladdin also gay?

He wasn't interested in Jasmine except as a way to become sultan.... so, maybe?

Tam

Centipede Damascus wrote:

PiptheFair wrote:

also who is excited for studio ghibli doing a The Borrowers adaptation

me me, I am

yes me too please
some of it don't look too great, but in general yes yes yes

also saw Porco Rosso again
did not hold up quite as well as I expected

Raijin Quickfoot

Popeye was also gay. His forearms were only that big because he was jacking sailor dick all day long. The fight between him and Bluto was over who got to use Olive Oil as a beard.