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Well...IGN is..you know. Owned by News Corp. Of course they wouldn't join a boycott.
What you should be doing is applying pressure to those people/sites in an attempt to get a message across. That consumers are telling you "this is a BAD idea" should say something. This is not the enraged minority speaking up and making geese of themselves (like some of the people with the Paul Christofolopolous situation and their twitter comments). These are the well spoken figureheads of the industry.
Does Penny Arcade represent the consumer side of things from their lofty perches? Hell yes they do, and I don't believe for a second this segment appears on their website without their full support.
This is an extreme measure to be taking, but it's reaching the right crowd right now. You should do this, it is a noble thing.
The sad thing is if their gaming sales take a dip they'll just attribute it to "pirates" and fight back with even dumber ideas. We are in a sad, circular argument with the gaming companies here. It's like an internet flamewar...
Too Galactic for you.
http://youtu.be/I3GXKg8juXM?t=6m44s
A month ago, it looked like the fix was in on this thing and we were powerless to stop it. Now, the online community has ground the bill's progress to a near halt.
Perhaps the "we can do this" view seems terribly naive, but with the momentum we have now I really think we can.
Side note - we finally got to hear Daniel's real voice! Yay!
It's an easy trap to fall into, but given my time in this community when you set aside people who fall into that trap, they more readily come around to the idea that it's a single bad decision by the ESA, rather than this one thing being enough to topple some sort of giant.
We all get why the ESA supports SOPA / PIPA. And even that's a false statement. They support fighting piracy. It's just that, for the moment, this is their one avenue of fighting it on this level of legislation. They need to be more vocal about saying they want less oppressive means.
It's slightly tricky for me as I:
- Am Not American
- Have an abstentionist for an MP in Westminster
But I will be working out how I can support the cause. For one thing I currently have no plans to follow E3 at all until ESA officially reverses their stance. It may be a token gesture, but it's still something.
James, I have to respectfully disagree with the latter part of your statement. The ESA has NEVER supported the gaming community, only their paying members. There were times when the goals of the two groups were the same and they abused a paper thin "relationship" to further the same goals, but beyond that their response has been to regard the gaming community at large as little more than sheep to fleece. If you don't believe me, let me ask you this: Where is the Video Game Voter's Network, an organization created by the ESA for the gaming community to oppose the Anti-game bill and used as a proclamation that the ESA and the gaming community speak as one, now that the goals of it's members and the ESA are not the same? The VGVN is at current, because it is part of the ESA, by default is supporting SOPA and PIPA.
And to be honest, The ESA is like the MPAA and the RIAA; a group of corporations acting to further their own goals at the expense of anyone around them. The only way to fix it would be to remove any corporation that does that. The problem with that is that after it is done, there is nothing left.
I think gamers remain a core of the problem. Since we as a "community" will make them tons of money off E3 coverage, they have every reason to do it and no reason not. If we as gamers could abstain from such news sites, we could make them think twice, but we will eat up the coverage for the same reason we bought every objectionable game in the last decade, despite mewlings of boycotts.
And oddly enough, knowing this, I've been doing anything I can anyway. I just wish that it felt like it was in some way rewarding. I mean, in the sense of the satisfaction that anything would come of it.
Sorry to be a Negative Nancy, guys. Just....Gah.
Until the retailers start boycotting E3, the show will go on, no matter what. And I don't think the retailers mind SOPA.
... Though E3 did almost die due to lack of industry support, so who knows.
In much the same way the neanderthal was a different animal than homo sapiens.
I'd have to think this had some effect as evidenced by this article showing their dropping of support.
Am I by the way the only person who is disappointed that we didn't get a real episode of Extra Credits? No offence to the cause, but releasing episode 24b a day or two later would seem like a good compromise between activism and not disappointing anyone.