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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    who are staff dude and glowing lady?
    Weather Wizard and Golden Glider, Cold's sister.

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    MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    is staff dude abra kabra or whatever?

    No idea on the lady.

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    DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    is he still called weather wizard


    because I mean if you're gonna use a name like Weather Wizard why even try to cool it up, why not go full-on lightning bolt robes and pointy hat and beard of thunderclouds and staff what has a perpetual tornado whirling on the tip

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    Crimson KingCrimson King Registered User regular
    Dichotomy wrote: »
    is he still called weather wizard


    because I mean if you're gonna use a name like Weather Wizard why even try to cool it up, why not go full-on lightning bolt robes and pointy hat and beard of thunderclouds and staff what has a perpetual tornado whirling on the tip

    you might be right, hey

    generally i don't think it works to change the ridiculous names but it does mean there's no salvaging something like Captain Cold

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    edited June 2012
    They also changed up the Speed Force in a way I really like

    basically it is no longer this nebulous thing that powers all Speedsters and is also Speedster Heaven or whatever the fuck it was

    it is basically the realm of time and the timeline of Earth

    Flash is, essentially, its antibody

    It powers him and grants him superspeed and he protects Earth and makes sure everything is going alright

    He also serves as a generator for it, so everytime he runs he keeps the Speed Force going. He's basically a renewable energy source for it.

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    AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    They also changed up the Speed Force in a way I really like

    basically it is no longer this nebulous thing that powers all Speedsters and is also Speedster Heaven or whatever the fuck it was

    it is basically the realm of time and the timeline of Earth

    Flash is, essentially, its antibody

    It powers him and grants him superspeed and he protects Earth and makes sure everything is going alright

    He also serves as a generator for it, so everytime he runs he keeps the Speed Force going. He's basically a renewable energy source for it.

    yeah, this is better

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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    In my ideal Batman comic series Freeze would show up rarely. He'd have trusted Bruce Wayne once only to be fooled. And thus he is a hermit who spends his life in research & admiration.

    But Freeze is but a man, he needs help but can't trust anyone. So he begins stealing as to funnel money secretly into researchers. He starts threatening scientists who are leaving the scientific world to keep researching. Freeze steals equipment and funds.

    And you focus on the tragedy of a man without empathy locking himself away from a world he still desperately needs.

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    Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    I want more stories of Batman tackling regular criminals and crime families

    maybe the Ventriloquies or the Black Mask could be involved, I don't know

    but Batman v. gangsters is so under-used now, and I think there are still plenty of great stories to be told there

    regular men v. superhero, etc.

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    -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    Ideally, Freeze would need to constantly make ice puns to power his suit, therefore keep himself alive

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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    @Indie Winter I agree.

    I love a good ol' fashion detective story with disguises, Tommy guns and a batarang.

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    AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    i wouldn't mind seeing classic style superman and batman stories where they fought crime the way they used to

    superman for social justice and batman against the mob

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    WeaverWeaver Who are you? What do you want?Registered User regular
    Somebody said ice and snow?

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    Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    fucking, make in intertwined with the super-villains, somehow

    a henchman from Two-Faces crew says "fuck this guy", leaves him with a bunch of other people

    they don't join up with anyone else, start doing jobs by themselves, other henchman start joining them

    a villain tries taking them down, but they're too powerful now. They're the people who actually did the legwork, they know how to get shit done

    now suddenly there's a brand new criminal organization in town that uses the collective experience of a half dozen supervillains and Batman's gotta stop it

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    Crimson KingCrimson King Registered User regular
    see i love the idea of freeze as being obsessed with this beautiful, frozen, unattainable girl

    being in love with her because she is beautiful and frozen and unattainable

    and wanting to freeze the world to make it perfect like she is

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    DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    they got the money to establish themselves in the criminal organization business by selling off their themed henchman costumes

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    AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    fucking, make in intertwined with the super-villains, somehow

    a henchman from Two-Faces crew says "fuck this guy", leaves him with a bunch of other people

    they don't join up with anyone else, start doing jobs by themselves, other henchman start joining them

    a villain tries taking them down, but they're too powerful now. They're the people who actually did the legwork, they know how to get shit done

    now suddenly there's a brand new criminal organization in town that uses the collective experience of a half dozen supervillains and Batman's gotta stop it
    holy hell this is good

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    WeaverWeaver Who are you? What do you want?Registered User regular
    Is the Marvel Hood still locked up after Siege?

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Weaver wrote: »
    Is the Marvel Hood still locked up after Siege?
    He broke out and got his hands on the Infinity Gems for a while but was stopped by all of the Avengers squads teaming up and he himself not being really ready to cope with that sort of power

    since then I think he was either locked up again or is in a coma

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    Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    Weaver wrote: »
    Is the Marvel Hood still locked up after Siege?

    well he tried to get the infinity gems but the avengers stopped him and now he's back in jail

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    Crimson KingCrimson King Registered User regular
    socialized crime

    they don't have a leader, they're completely decentralized, they just work shit out among themselves

    they have no grand plan more complex then "commit crimes, make money"

    so they're almost impossible for batman to take down

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    DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    batman suddenly finds it's really hard to be the world's greatest detective when his enemies do not employ laughing gas or riddles or giant mutant plants

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    Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    edited June 2012
    socialized crime

    they don't have a leader, they're completely decentralized, they just work shit out among themselves

    they have no grand plan more complex then "commit crimes, make money"

    so they're almost impossible for batman to take down

    yup

    that one guy who originally left is going to be the focus of the story, but definitely not the leader

    it'll be more about how he doesn't want the main spot, doesn't want to become the big man, and that's why the others don't turn on him and he can just gather his wealth and watch this thing he helped make grow

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    Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    yeah this sounds like the hood without superpowers

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    Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    except the Hood, by being the Hood, misses the whole point of such a story

    it's about not wearing a mask, not having some fancy crime persona

    it's about regular people doing incredible thing by banding together

    those incredible things are also hurtful, dangerous and criminal, but they're incredible non-the-less

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Aw man

    apparently the original New 52 pitch for Green Arrow was by an unannounced, but supposedly prominent, writer that cast Ollie as a dude who was fed up with all of the supervillains and bullshit in Star City so he tackles crime the only way he knows how: with a bow and arrow. Presumably he was either a sport archer or kept the shipwrecked story.

    instead we got JT Krul writing Ollie Queen as NOTSteve Jobs, making qPads and qPhones and going up against the "Jersey Shore of supervillains".

    Yes that is an actual quote from the solicit.

    Fuckin' DC.

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    WeaverWeaver Who are you? What do you want?Registered User regular
    Sorry, forgot about his attempt at the gems. So guess he's just shelved until needed? Which is fine. All Dark Reign stuff needs to go away.

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    MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    so, he's going to beat up snooki?

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    MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    man, i am looking at green arrow villains. wow, these aren't very many or good. Clock king is the only name i know, and even then.

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    Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    You know they're renaming Thunderbolts as a new Dark Avengers book, right

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    Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    Also Dark Reign was great you're crazy

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    WeaverWeaver Who are you? What do you want?Registered User regular
    Well Shoe I'm tired of all the Dark Reign stuff always showing up like the whole Hammer Wars thing, but I think that's over.

    Thunderbolts is still Thunderbolts, even thought the name has changed.

    Also that Songbird.

    Yowza let me holla atcha girl

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    Edith UpwardsEdith Upwards Registered User regular
    edited June 2012
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    This is like five entire comics worth of plot. In five lines.

    That's amazing.

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Ha anybody read the comic series Locke and Key?

    My girlfriend bought the first collection and gave it to me when she finished. I liked it alright. The writer does a good thing of depicting the mental state of people who have been through a traumatic event.

    Though I'm not really sure where the story is headed. Though it isn't hard to guess there will be Lovecraftian stuff.

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    I Win SwordfightsI Win Swordfights all the traits of greatness starlight at my feetRegistered User regular
    @Keith

    Keith is pretty much the Locke and Key guy

    Like i don't even read comic books and I know Keith is the Locke and Key guy

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    So with the money made on Friday, Avengers should have pulled ahead of The Dark Knight for the #3 all time domestic box office. (Avatar and Titanic are probably too far away though.). Potentially getting the #3 worldwide spot as well, beating out one of the Harry Potter movies.

    I wonder if Dark Knight Rises will be able to take the #3 spot back.

    Also, it's a little crazy that in the past, oh.. 14 years, comic books went from being a niche thing to holding the #3 and #4 spots on the top 10 highest domestic grossing movies of all time.

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    The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    That's because they were released in the last 14 years. Adjust for inflation and they barely crack the top thirty.

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    I Win SwordfightsI Win Swordfights all the traits of greatness starlight at my feetRegistered User regular
    i think he more meant that they're that popular amongst so many people

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    The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    Well box office gross isn't such a good indicator of that. Comics have been popular and accepted in the mainstream for ages.

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    I Win SwordfightsI Win Swordfights all the traits of greatness starlight at my feetRegistered User regular
    well

    no

    no not really

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    The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    Yes they have. Batman came out in 1989 and was hugely popular. That was 23 years ago, not 14. Where did this 14 number come from anyway? Comic book movies have been making hundreds of millions of dollars since the 70s.

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