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So my son(7, almost 8) and I enjoy playing a lot of console games together(mostly wii stuff). He's a good student and a good reader, and just a smart kid all around(yeah, I know, all parents say that). I most of the time dont even have to teach him the games, he read's the directions on screen and learns on his own.
It's been cold and rainy lately, and we have gotten a bit bored of all the games we have. Being an old Magic player from way back in the day, I thought maybe Pokemon might be a good first TCG to get into. You know, get away from the tv a bit. I went by Target today(no comic/game stores near my work) because I knew I had seen the game there before. I was a little overwhelmed of the amount of versions of the game(like Magic Expansions), and the little "ages 10 and up" sticker on the box made me think twice.
Is this something that he should be able to get the hang of, or is it just to advanced? Is there any "easier/gentler to learn" decks out there that I should look for instead of any random one from a store?
I started playing magic when I was about 9, if you're going to be teaching him and playing with him I'd say take him to a shop that sells comics/cards and have him pick out a card game he's interested in. This isn't the 90's comic bubble, you shouldn't be under the impression these cards are going to ever make their money back (Barring a few very rare situations) so just have him pick a game he's interested in. You learn the rules and teach him.
As he gets older he'll migrate if he enjoys TCGs to whatever he's into.
*shrug* It's something he knows from tv and has a couple of the "action figures" that have been given to him as gifts, or out of vending machines, etc.
My son (7) has tried both Pokemon and Magic. Magic when playing with selected cards can be fun because the rules are pretty simple, however there are some more complex cards that can be tricky and obviously some with more grown up themes.
Pokemon is great, although can be a bit of a money pit! We have TONS of cards now and I think he often enjoys the collecting aspect of them more than the game itself but we still play quite frequently. I would go pick up two of the theme packs and start from there. That's how we started, that way you get rules, playmats and enough cards to play against each other.
Rules are easy - although be prepared to start by skirting a few of them to avoid frustration. We started playing by disregarding the mechanics of weaknesses and cost to retreat just to get used to the turn/attack gameplay. Now we play full rules, but it took a few months to really get to that point. He still often builds decks with no trainer cards because he likes more Pokemons to play with and that's fine, I wouldn't want him to get too competitive about it.
Some sites (or ebay) also have common/uncommon grab bags and bulk energy you can buy - those can be a fun and cheap way to build up a quick collection for a kid who just wants to play with you or against friends. We did a few of those, plus enough energy to be able to build any colored deck we wanted.
They have a flash version online that he can play to see if he understands/likes the game before taking the plunge. Personally I think pokemon is a little more luck reliant than other CCG's but YMMV.
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EsseeThe pinkest of hair.Victoria, BCRegistered Userregular
edited January 2012
Pokemon is totally great for that age and that's about the age I got into both the games and the card game. It's probably a bit of a money pit, yes, but it's a wonderful first card game. I still find it fun after all this time. I don't think MtG is the best start for a kid... but I guess if getting him into it were your main goal you could try to start with that so as to save money...
Incidentally, though, there's an online Pokemon TCG site where you can actually play online for free (with limited cards, although I don't know how limited since I mostly only played in the beta-- at the very least you can use a few premade decks, I know that) and they have tutorials for the game's rules and whatnot that tell you how to play offline or online. They launched the full version of the site not too long ago. You can play against a computer opponent or other players, but I haven't checked out the latter just yet (wasn't available in beta). So presumably you guys could start off by playing against each other for free that way? Might be a good idea.
Edit: Well apparently I was a little slow in finishing my post, but I have a bit more detail on the site. :P
Have you considered card games that are more of the deck-building variety? I've found that Dominion, for example, is fairly easy to pick up on, and you'd only need to buy one game for the both of you to play.
Munchkin might be a fun card game to get. It isn't a ccg, all cards are shared by all players. This means you won't be paying out the butt for new cards all the time when he gets into it. Plus it has goofy drawings that are probably appealing to youngins.
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My son is 6 and is into anything like Pokemon, Beyblade, etc. I picked up Redakai for him for Xmas. Mainly because its pretty easy to pick up and play the easy version. Its not a true TCG but he likes it and every time we play we add another piece to the advanced version to the mix. Its gimicky but if it gets him out from in front of the TV I'll take it.
I've also started tp play D and D with him. Again a dumbed down version but its fun and helps him with his math and decision making.
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EshTending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles.Portland, ORRegistered Userregular
Munchkin might be a fun card game to get. It isn't a ccg, all cards are shared by all players. This means you won't be paying out the butt for new cards all the time when he gets into it. Plus it has goofy drawings that are probably appealing to youngins.
Munchkin is also incredibly backstabby and competitive. I don't know if it's something I'd have a 7 year old playing. A lot of the jokes will go right over his head as well.
Why not ask your son? "Would you like to try the Pokemon card game?"
Do you have an xbox 360? Picking up the MTG xbox live arcade game, or you can get it on steam might be a very good intro. It's a great game that basically is designed as an intro to the game from the ground up. It doesn't really let you make mistakes which makes it so learning the gameplay and rules are easy. It's a great gateway to the game. Even i play it and i'm not new to magic because its fun to play against the computer on my laptop sometimes.
My son is 6 and is into anything like Pokemon, Beyblade, etc. I picked up Redakai for him for Xmas. Mainly because its pretty easy to pick up and play the easy version. Its not a true TCG but he likes it and every time we play we add another piece to the advanced version to the mix. Its gimicky but if it gets him out from in front of the TV I'll take it.
I've also started tp play D and D with him. Again a dumbed down version but its fun and helps him with his math and decision making.
Not to threadjack but how did you do D&D? I've been toying with the idea for ages but I haven't played since the red box so I didn't know where to start...
I just play one level/dungeon/crypt. Make the monster really easy one or two HP. I do it more for him to add and subtract the numbers. I try not to make the monster attack too much. Very very very basic.
Can't thank you guys enough for the help. Wife and I sat down and walked through the tutorials and played a couple of the single player games on the pokemontcg.com website last night. After having some fun ourselves, we put on our "grown up" hats and thought about it for a bit, and other than a few things(as suggested by Lindsey Lohan dropping weakness/retreat stuff at first) I think it's something we can actually enjoy as a family.
I am just getting back into it after not playing for over 20 something years so I just use the starter kit.
Which one? The original D&D starter kit like I had as a kid some 20+ years ago or a new current version? I think I may have a project for our next men's day.
Have you considered card games that are more of the deck-building variety? I've found that Dominion, for example, is fairly easy to pick up on, and you'd only need to buy one game for the both of you to play.
This is what I was going to suggest. Dominion is relatively simple with lots of depth and variety and none of the money pit.
I am just getting back into it after not playing for over 20 something years so I just use the starter kit.
Which one? The original D&D starter kit like I had as a kid some 20+ years ago or a new current version? I think I may have a project for our next men's day.
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I started playing magic when I was about 9, if you're going to be teaching him and playing with him I'd say take him to a shop that sells comics/cards and have him pick out a card game he's interested in. This isn't the 90's comic bubble, you shouldn't be under the impression these cards are going to ever make their money back (Barring a few very rare situations) so just have him pick a game he's interested in. You learn the rules and teach him.
As he gets older he'll migrate if he enjoys TCGs to whatever he's into.
*shrug* It's something he knows from tv and has a couple of the "action figures" that have been given to him as gifts, or out of vending machines, etc.
Oh god no, I dont expect these to make any sort of money or resale off of in the future.
I wouldn't let my kid use them.
Pokemon would be a good intro. He likes the game right? So he should be familiar with the characters already.
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Good point.
He hasen't played any of the video games of it.
You can both trade and battle and make it a race to see who finishes first.
Or even just play a few board games.
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Pokemon is great, although can be a bit of a money pit! We have TONS of cards now and I think he often enjoys the collecting aspect of them more than the game itself but we still play quite frequently. I would go pick up two of the theme packs and start from there. That's how we started, that way you get rules, playmats and enough cards to play against each other.
Rules are easy - although be prepared to start by skirting a few of them to avoid frustration. We started playing by disregarding the mechanics of weaknesses and cost to retreat just to get used to the turn/attack gameplay. Now we play full rules, but it took a few months to really get to that point. He still often builds decks with no trainer cards because he likes more Pokemons to play with and that's fine, I wouldn't want him to get too competitive about it.
Some sites (or ebay) also have common/uncommon grab bags and bulk energy you can buy - those can be a fun and cheap way to build up a quick collection for a kid who just wants to play with you or against friends. We did a few of those, plus enough energy to be able to build any colored deck we wanted.
They have a flash version online that he can play to see if he understands/likes the game before taking the plunge. Personally I think pokemon is a little more luck reliant than other CCG's but YMMV.
Incidentally, though, there's an online Pokemon TCG site where you can actually play online for free (with limited cards, although I don't know how limited since I mostly only played in the beta-- at the very least you can use a few premade decks, I know that) and they have tutorials for the game's rules and whatnot that tell you how to play offline or online. They launched the full version of the site not too long ago. You can play against a computer opponent or other players, but I haven't checked out the latter just yet (wasn't available in beta). So presumably you guys could start off by playing against each other for free that way? Might be a good idea.
Edit: Well apparently I was a little slow in finishing my post, but I have a bit more detail on the site. :P
but they're listening to every word I say
I've also started tp play D and D with him. Again a dumbed down version but its fun and helps him with his math and decision making.
Munchkin is also incredibly backstabby and competitive. I don't know if it's something I'd have a 7 year old playing. A lot of the jokes will go right over his head as well.
Why not ask your son? "Would you like to try the Pokemon card game?"
Not to threadjack but how did you do D&D? I've been toying with the idea for ages but I haven't played since the red box so I didn't know where to start...
Which one? The original D&D starter kit like I had as a kid some 20+ years ago or a new current version? I think I may have a project for our next men's day.
This is what I was going to suggest. Dominion is relatively simple with lots of depth and variety and none of the money pit.
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