One thing that always bugs me is the batarians in a creative sense. Did BioWare mean for them to be so hated, or were they supposed to be a "humans cause hardship too" parable that went horribly horribly awry?
They nicknamed them the 'Vile Batarians' in the codex, had your only interactions with them in ME1 be them setting up bombs to murder you after you foiled their plan to kill a few million people, half of the backstories have them committing some pretty heavy trauma to Shepard and they got kicked out of the council for being slaving, xenophobic assholes.
If anything ME2 had a concentrated effort to show them in a better light as there are quite a few who only threaten you with violence instead of immediately trying to kill you.
The only species less sympathetic is ME1's Geth. Which is why I predict a turnaround on them in ME3.
Still boring and irritating to fight. Especially with the shield recharge ability when your squadmates are idiots.
I will admit that you need to micromanage your teammates, because sometimes they want to do something stupid...but so long as you place them somewhere safe (I like sticking them under cover by the heavy weapon ammo), it's not bad.
Same as Horizon. I shove them in a truck while I square-dance around boxes there.
Yeah I don't have any problem with them really, though it was annoying not being able to use cloak on my infiltrator but I just don't like them because of how boring they are to fight
So you know how Bioware hinted we will have to make binary choices as to who lives to help us vs Reapers and who gets eaten/husked/indoctrinated by them? Like, Geth or space gypsies, that kind of thing.
I want to see who they pick as alternative to Batarians. My money is on the Volus. And I'd love to see the statistics on that "choice".
Hmm.
If that's the case
Geth
Krogan
Elcor
Turian
Hanar.
The Salarians and Asari both have viable outs to extinction via bulk breeding and long life spans let em get swiped as long as there are survivors they'll be fine.
Fuck the volus and batarians.
The quarians made it clear they don't want peace or even wish to apply logic to the geth situation fuck em. Im sure a microbe would have wiped them out eventually.
Im also assuming the Drell are the bulk of the Hanar military and are lumped in with them.
If Shepard can force the krogan to ally with the turians against the Reaper threat, quarians and geth should be viable.
I find it refreshing that Bioware gave us a race that is pretty much as big a bunch of assholes as they first seem, instead of preaching about tolerance.
One thing that always bugs me is the batarians in a creative sense. Did BioWare mean for them to be so hated, or were they supposed to be a "humans cause hardship too" parable that went horribly horribly awry?
Slavery is part of their culture.
All we see of them is warlords and mercs.
They invaded a human colony.
Let me think about this.
I think it's Bioware's secret plan to get everyone to hate people with glasses, personally.
I wear glasses.
Yeah, but that basically makes them Space Sioux. Or something. Isn't their whole problem with humans that we were encroaching on their territory? I can see a way to extract a sympathetic story deep deep under there.
There's the guy on Noveria. He sends an email about his therapy and shutting the door was the only sensible option.
I dunno. Locking out a coworker to be eaten by rachni is pretty high up there on the asshole scale. And you only have his word that he wouldn't have gotten away if he didn't close the door. He's a Volus, how can you believe anything he says? More likely, he closed the door to keep his coworker out so that the rachni would be too distracted devouring her to batter down the door to get him.
There's the guy on Noveria. He sends an email about his therapy and shutting the door was the only sensible option.
I dunno. Locking out a coworker to be eaten by rachni is pretty high up there on the asshole scale. And you only have his word that he wouldn't have gotten away if he didn't close the door. He's a Volus, how can you believe anything he says? More likely, he closed the door to keep his coworker out so that the rachni would be too distracted devouring her to batter down the door to get him.
Considering he saw her die as his car pulled away, it's a fair bet he wouldn't have time to save her. And the experience pretty much broke him. Read the email? He's not exactly defending his actions. Only one who says it's okay is renegade Shepard.
The Shadow Broker employee? He's on the up and up.
Hmm. Not sure which one you're talking about. If he worked for the Shadow Broker before Liara took over, though, he was probably an asshole.
He was polite and gave Shep intel for free. He's a low level intel specialist for the Broker, not one of the legbreakers. Just sells information legally. Says nice things about humans.
One thing that always bugs me is the batarians in a creative sense. Did BioWare mean for them to be so hated, or were they supposed to be a "humans cause hardship too" parable that went horribly horribly awry?
Based on the writing of Revelation and ME:1, I'd have to go with "they tried" to make the Batarians "seem" sympathetic being beat up by nasty humans a-bloobloo. Here's the thing, they did such a good job making them miserable, murdering, slaving, raping bastards it's impossible not to hate them.
So yeah, they derped up. But that's good when an artist's work is totally misinterpreted, keeps em on their toes.
Hopefully we get to 'drop rocks' on their homeworld for a nice DLC change of pace.
I think Batarians are a lot like other controversial racial/religious cultures and how they are perceived in the world. I could honestly tell you the majority of race X or creed Y I have met in my life have been lazy/assholes/crazy people. However, even my own vast personal experience is miniscule, and I would be wrong to say that.
Shepard has killed hundred of thousands of Batarians but only talked to a few, or interacted with a few handful. Do you see what I'm saying? She doesn't let herself get distracted with if she should be killing Batarians or if they deserve it. Shepard just makes the galaxy a better place. We should follow her example.
Relieved: Now that all the Batarians are dead, the galaxy is a better place.
bah someone needs to fraps that bit in me1 where shep walks into that asteroid station and simply says "batarians!".
It succinctly expresses everything.
While most people would leave the batarians to die and save race XXX, the batarians have that biologicalsuperdoomsdayship that will in all likelyhood be a big variable in an all out gunfight with the reaper armada.
Do you choose morality or pragmatism?
PARAGON or ASSHOLEGADE?
tip.. tip.. TALLY.. HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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bah someone needs to fraps that bit in me1 where shep walks into that asteroid station and simply says "batarians!".
It succinctly expresses everything.
While most people would leave the batarians to die and save race XXX, the batarians have that biologicalsuperdoomsdayship that will in all likelyhood be a big variable in an all out gunfight with the reaper armada. Do you choose morality or pragmatism?
PARAGON or ASSHOLEGADE?
When it comes to batarians, they're both the same thing.
bah someone needs to fraps that bit in me1 where shep walks into that asteroid station and simply says "batarians!".
It succinctly expresses everything.
While most people would leave the batarians to die and save race XXX, the batarians have that biologicalsuperdoomsdayship that will in all likelyhood be a big variable in an all out gunfight with the reaper armada. Do you choose morality or pragmatism?
PARAGON or ASSHOLEGADE?
When it comes to batarians, they're both the same thing.
Suffer not a batarian to live!
now now, it's precisely that sort of thinking that the batarians use to justify their slavery.
I'm onto you, Orca.
tip.. tip.. TALLY.. HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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bah someone needs to fraps that bit in me1 where shep walks into that asteroid station and simply says "batarians!".
It succinctly expresses everything.
While most people would leave the batarians to die and save race XXX, the batarians have that biologicalsuperdoomsdayship that will in all likelyhood be a big variable in an all out gunfight with the reaper armada. Do you choose morality or pragmatism?
PARAGON or ASSHOLEGADE?
When it comes to batarians, they're both the same thing.
Suffer not a batarian to live!
now now, it's precisely that sort of thinking that the batarians use to justify their slavery.
I'm onto you, Orca.
Do you know who knows how Batarians try to justify slavery?
One thing that always bugs me is the batarians in a creative sense. Did BioWare mean for them to be so hated, or were they supposed to be a "humans cause hardship too" parable that went horribly horribly awry?
They nicknamed them the 'Vile Batarians' in the codex, had your only interactions with them in ME1 be them setting up bombs to murder you after you foiled their plan to kill a few million people, half of the backstories have them committing some pretty heavy trauma to Shepard and they got kicked out of the council for being slaving, xenophobic assholes.
If anything ME2 had a concentrated effort to show them in a better light as there are quite a few who only threaten you with violence instead of immediately trying to kill you.
The only species less sympathetic is ME1's Geth. Which is why I predict a turnaround on them in ME3.
Even in ME1 it was possible to be sympathetic to the geth. So the batarians are worse still.
I found the demo inoffensive but uninteresting. Salvatore+McFarlane isn't really a creative team that rouses me, but hey, free ME stuff and a new IP, so I wish them well.
And the praetorian on the ship is easier than the one on Horizon, I think, because of the pillar Orca mentions. I just leave my squadmates up on the overhang so they can help shoot down husks/collectors while I do the safety dance around the pillar.
I just use the Cain
knocks off three quarters of its health and takes a few husks out in the process
i'd do that on horizon, too, but the Cain is better reserved for double-Scion time there
I've been rocking the DLC, and Firewalker is a nice distraction, but man that auto aim shit is annoying!. I would aim at the guy offloading on m e with a machine gun and teh rocket would just take a right and go after the Armature who was already knocked down by me slamming into it.
And since the Firewalker has as much armor as my johnson, I ended up cheesing the fight cause the game thought it could aim better then my mouse!
But I digress, otherwise, nice distraction. The Master Theif one was good and I love having her on my team. Her backstab is just a wonderful FUCK YOU to some of these assholes I must kill!
it's perplexing that as distinct as the mako and hammerhead are, combat winds up being exactly the same: get out of range and hop up and down while firing away
it's perplexing that as distinct as the mako and hammerhead are, combat winds up being exactly the same: get out of range and hop up and down while firing away
It's all there in the manual, the Hammerhead is designed to be immediately familiar to tank crews.
Question about ME2 on insanity. Does it hinder you to go into the final mission with the minimal number of crew and 0 loyalty? Or does it increase your own chances of survival by having more people and loyal people on your crew? I'm looking to knock off insanity without having to grind through any missions I don't need to also but without making things extra difficult for me. I wanna 100% this game before all the cool new shiny games coming out in the next little while!
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Loyalty, etc. matters for outcome more than gameplay.
Question about ME2 on insanity. Does it hinder you to go into the final mission with the minimal number of crew and 0 loyalty? Or does it increase your own chances of survival by having more people and loyal people on your crew? I'm looking to knock off insanity without having to grind through any missions I don't need to also but without making things extra difficult for me. I wanna 100% this game before all the cool new shiny games coming out in the next little while!
Bear in mind that the loyalty missions give you upgrades and money (for more upgrades). You want to go into the final fight with the best gear, right?
I hope that in ME3 we'll get some Batarian assistance against the Reaper threat. Shepard (who is nearly as charismatic as Saren) will go to their homeworld and tell them that if the Reapers win, they will have no humans left to enslave. Seeing a threat to their culture and way of life, they can only agree.
Then Shepard gets to assign a military commander to coordinate/lead the Batarian attacks against the Reapers. Shepard sends Zaeed.
Geth. Not war focused, and no idea what they have in the way of a fleet, but they have tech.
If you read the planet descriptions in ME2, it seems like the Geth have a massive fleet. United, they've probably got the largest potential military presence in the galaxy.
Geth. Not war focused, and no idea what they have in the way of a fleet, but they have tech.
If you read the planet descriptions in ME2, it seems like the Geth have a massive fleet. United, they've probably got the largest potential military presence in the galaxy.
Their dropships are better than other species dropships since they don't need a full room with breathable air. You can see this in Project Firewalker when Dropships just fly by and drops Geth mid-flight from some height.
Also, Geth don't use windows. Windows are structural weaknesses. I guess that means you can't just eliminate an entire room of them by shooting a windows and let the vacuum of space do the rest.
playing on insanity really illustrates how terrible the teammate ai is.
if squad power use is on, they should be using their damn powers whenever the cooldown lapses. (preferably at my current target, but using it at all is better than not)
if I wanted to micromanage my whole team, I would have checked the "force me to micromanage" box
left to her own devices, miranda will fire off a warp about once every 2 minutes (but only if she isn't dead from charging into a group of 3+ enemies)
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I hope that in ME3 we'll get some Batarian assistance against the Reaper threat. Shepard (who is nearly as charismatic as Saren) will go to their homeworld and tell them that if the Reapers win, they will have no humans left to enslave. Seeing a threat to their culture and way of life, they can only agree.
Then Shepard gets to assign a military commander to coordinate/lead the Batarian attacks against the Reapers. Shepard sends Zaeed.
playing on insanity really illustrates how terrible the teammate ai is.
if squad power use is on, they should be using their damn powers whenever the cooldown lapses. (preferably at my current target, but using it at all is better than not)
if I wanted to micromanage my whole team, I would have checked the "force me to micromanage" box
left to her own devices, miranda will fire off a warp about once every 2 minutes (but only if she isn't dead from charging into a group of 3+ enemies)
Yeah, especially on insanity the best thing to do is just get really used to managing your teammates powers
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They nicknamed them the 'Vile Batarians' in the codex, had your only interactions with them in ME1 be them setting up bombs to murder you after you foiled their plan to kill a few million people, half of the backstories have them committing some pretty heavy trauma to Shepard and they got kicked out of the council for being slaving, xenophobic assholes.
If anything ME2 had a concentrated effort to show them in a better light as there are quite a few who only threaten you with violence instead of immediately trying to kill you.
The only species less sympathetic is ME1's Geth. Which is why I predict a turnaround on them in ME3.
Yeah I don't have any problem with them really, though it was annoying not being able to use cloak on my infiltrator but I just don't like them because of how boring they are to fight
very glad they got taken out for ME3
Yeah, but that basically makes them Space Sioux. Or something. Isn't their whole problem with humans that we were encroaching on their territory? I can see a way to extract a sympathetic story deep deep under there.
But if the space drugs had worked, he wouldn't have been sorry at all. So... asshole.
I dunno. Locking out a coworker to be eaten by rachni is pretty high up there on the asshole scale. And you only have his word that he wouldn't have gotten away if he didn't close the door. He's a Volus, how can you believe anything he says? More likely, he closed the door to keep his coworker out so that the rachni would be too distracted devouring her to batter down the door to get him.
Hmm. Not sure which one you're talking about. If he worked for the Shadow Broker before Liara took over, though, he was probably an asshole.
OK, Doran wasn't an asshole. I forgot about him. But one dancing Volus doesn't really redeem the rest of them.
Volus, not Batarians, are the true blight on galactic civilization.
He was crazy on space drugs. Hardly his fault.
Didn't you see space PSAs? Everyone is a jerk on space drugs.
Considering he saw her die as his car pulled away, it's a fair bet he wouldn't have time to save her. And the experience pretty much broke him. Read the email? He's not exactly defending his actions. Only one who says it's okay is renegade Shepard.
He was polite and gave Shep intel for free. He's a low level intel specialist for the Broker, not one of the legbreakers. Just sells information legally. Says nice things about humans.
Now that's just crazytalk.
Why I fear the ocean.
Based on the writing of Revelation and ME:1, I'd have to go with "they tried" to make the Batarians "seem" sympathetic being beat up by nasty humans a-bloobloo. Here's the thing, they did such a good job making them miserable, murdering, slaving, raping bastards it's impossible not to hate them.
So yeah, they derped up. But that's good when an artist's work is totally misinterpreted, keeps em on their toes.
Hopefully we get to 'drop rocks' on their homeworld for a nice DLC change of pace.
Shepard has killed hundred of thousands of Batarians but only talked to a few, or interacted with a few handful. Do you see what I'm saying? She doesn't let herself get distracted with if she should be killing Batarians or if they deserve it. Shepard just makes the galaxy a better place. We should follow her example.
Relieved: Now that all the Batarians are dead, the galaxy is a better place.
It succinctly expresses everything.
While most people would leave the batarians to die and save race XXX, the batarians have that biologicalsuperdoomsdayship that will in all likelyhood be a big variable in an all out gunfight with the reaper armada.
Do you choose morality or pragmatism?
PARAGON or ASSHOLEGADE?
When it comes to batarians, they're both the same thing.
Suffer not a batarian to live!
now now, it's precisely that sort of thinking that the batarians use to justify their slavery.
I'm onto you, Orca.
Do you know who knows how Batarians try to justify slavery?
Batarians.
Why I fear the ocean.
Do you know who knows who knows how Batarians try to justify slavery?
conservative batarians.
fun fact: Batarians were originally going to be bat people and be the main bad guys of ME1 instead of the Geth
knocks off three quarters of its health and takes a few husks out in the process
i'd do that on horizon, too, but the Cain is better reserved for double-Scion time there
And since the Firewalker has as much armor as my johnson, I ended up cheesing the fight cause the game thought it could aim better then my mouse!
But I digress, otherwise, nice distraction. The Master Theif one was good and I love having her on my team. Her backstab is just a wonderful FUCK YOU to some of these assholes I must kill!
It's all there in the manual, the Hammerhead is designed to be immediately familiar to tank crews.
Besides, an eccentric Volus billionaire seeking lost super weaponry after having angelic visions is much cooler.
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On the other hand, the last (meant to be important) batch of Cerberus stories focused on it no?
Would be surprised if it isn't at least referenced in game.
Don't be ridiculous now!
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Actually there is a survival calculator in the OP I think. It'll give you all the numbers you need.
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Then Shepard gets to assign a military commander to coordinate/lead the Batarian attacks against the Reapers. Shepard sends Zaeed.
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If you read the planet descriptions in ME2, it seems like the Geth have a massive fleet. United, they've probably got the largest potential military presence in the galaxy.
Their dropships are better than other species dropships since they don't need a full room with breathable air. You can see this in Project Firewalker when Dropships just fly by and drops Geth mid-flight from some height.
Also, Geth don't use windows. Windows are structural weaknesses. I guess that means you can't just eliminate an entire room of them by shooting a windows and let the vacuum of space do the rest.
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if squad power use is on, they should be using their damn powers whenever the cooldown lapses. (preferably at my current target, but using it at all is better than not)
if I wanted to micromanage my whole team, I would have checked the "force me to micromanage" box
left to her own devices, miranda will fire off a warp about once every 2 minutes (but only if she isn't dead from charging into a group of 3+ enemies)
YES
Yeah, especially on insanity the best thing to do is just get really used to managing your teammates powers
they are really dumb otherwise