So I was bored and decided to get LotSB just because my femshep space-banged Liara in ME1 and found out everyone gets other free DLC too. So far I have no idea why the crashed Normandy was ever even made and I hate Zaeed. There's only room for one space badass and that's me.
It's an obscure reference from a book that got one line in a planet's info dump and some folk think it's the key to defeating the Reapers.
here's the thing
most of those planet descriptions can be easily dismissed because they're long-dead ruins or just some crazy visions some guy had
but the Leviathan is an actual, documented thing that we know the batarians have, before ME2 I would have expected it to show up well before Klendagon and now I'm sure it will show up in ME3 if we visit Khar'shan
combine that with my multiplayer vanguard prowess and i'm saving everyone
except the Vile Batarians
actually i'll probably save them too, because the reapers are all about harvesting all organic life
can you imagine a 4 eyed reaper
WAIT
SHIT
THEY ALL HAVE 4 EYES
BATARIANS INVENTED THE REAPERS HOLY SHIT
You forgot to add another compelling clue. I keep hearing reports that the Batarians have a huge living ship. You know what we call huge living ships? Reapers.
It'd be hilarious if the Leviathan was indoctrinating the Batarians because it's a Reaper, and is the sole reason that the Batarians are the way they are.
It'd be hilarious if the Leviathan was indoctrinating the Batarians because it's a Reaper, and is the sole reason that the Batarians are the way they are.
...Becoming indoctrinated without a living Reaper to guide them, they simply act upon the 'reaping' instincts and try to enslave every race they come across. It could fly.
Don't you worry none about the noble Batarians though. Dr. Shepard is on the case. Shep is an expert on dealing with indoctrination and has successfully dealt with many notable cases. :twisted:
Is a widow-wielding Infiltrator supposed to break the Shadow Broker fight over her knee? I shot a few times, and he went down. I don't think he even scratched me. This hardcore version was easier than every normal battle I've had with an engineer, vanguard, sentinel, etc.
I don't know
vanguard and engineer at least both have a pretty easy go of it as well
it's been a while since I've run an infiltrator through it, but I feel like infiltrator would need to worry about positioning somewhat, which the vanguard does not
(is charge on cooldown? shoot. is charge not on cooldown? CHARGE.)
I had to move twice, and even that was more preference than necessity. Other than that, I just shot him in the head and waited for Cloak to recharge.
So I was bored and decided to get LotSB just because my femshep space-banged Liara in ME1 and found out everyone gets other free DLC too. So far I have no idea why the crashed Normandy was ever even made and I hate Zaeed. There's only room for one space badass and that's me.
I don't mind the crashed Normandy, only been to it a couple of times but its pretty nice
and what's with this sudden internet hate for Zaeed that I didn't notice until a few months ago
and what's with this sudden internet hate for Zaeed that I didn't notice until a few months ago
I think a lot of people didn't like him because you get his loyalty mission immediately, so basically the first real experience you're likely to get of his character is the rather unpleasant choice that mission forces on you. With everyone else, even Jack, you actually talk to them and learn about their character before having to deal with possibly unpleasant facets of their personality that come up in loyalty missions.
For example, imagine if Garrus was a totally new character ("Barrus") and in your very first conversation on board the Normandy he gave you the mission to help kill Sidonis. It isn't as sadistic a choice as Zaeed's mission, and Barrus doesn't try to shoot you in one outcome, but it would still color your perception of his character differently if your first major interaction with Barrus is to be his accomplice in the daylight murder of a guy surrounded by civilians. Also, you can't actually talk to Barrus like a normal squadmate.
Regardless Zaeed's the best because he was hating Batarians before Shepard was even born. Goddamn terrorists.
It'd be hilarious if the Leviathan was indoctrinating the Batarians because it's a Reaper, and is the sole reason that the Batarians are the way they are.
...Becoming indoctrinated without a living Reaper to guide them, they simply act upon the 'reaping' instincts and try to enslave every race they come across. It could fly.
Don't you worry none about the noble Batarians though. Dr. Shepard is on the case. Shep is an expert on dealing with indoctrination and has successfully dealt with many notable cases. :twisted:
If there's no reaper the indoctrinated just sit there and die.
Even the dead one in two was alive on some level though.
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Is a widow-wielding Infiltrator supposed to break the Shadow Broker fight over her knee? I shot a few times, and he went down. I don't think he even scratched me. This hardcore version was easier than every normal battle I've had with an engineer, vanguard, sentinel, etc.
I don't know
vanguard and engineer at least both have a pretty easy go of it as well
it's been a while since I've run an infiltrator through it, but I feel like infiltrator would need to worry about positioning somewhat, which the vanguard does not
(is charge on cooldown? shoot. is charge not on cooldown? CHARGE.)
I had to move twice, and even that was more preference than necessity. Other than that, I just shot him in the head and waited for Cloak to recharge.
yeah I just did this as an engineer again
drone ties him up for about five or six seconds at a time, during which he completely turns his back on you
the only time even got a shot at me was for fractions of a second between reupping it and he barely even managed to advance on me
i'm beginning to think the drone is right up there with adrenaline rush in being borderline bullshit
My first insanity run was as an engineer, out of a fit of masochism which turned out to be remarkably easy.
I like when the drone survives long enough for you to fire off an incinerate in between refreshes. I wouldn't say it's anywhere near adrenaline rush, though, because it tanks one dude...the other scion and husks, for example, are still a problem.
It'd be hilarious if the Leviathan was indoctrinating the Batarians because it's a Reaper, and is the sole reason that the Batarians are the way they are.
...Becoming indoctrinated without a living Reaper to guide them, they simply act upon the 'reaping' instincts and try to enslave every race they come across. It could fly.
Don't you worry none about the noble Batarians though. Dr. Shepard is on the case. Shep is an expert on dealing with indoctrination and has successfully dealt with many notable cases. :twisted:
If there's no reaper the indoctrinated just sit there and die.
Even the dead one in two was alive on some level though.
Right. Not 'no' reaper, 'no living' reaper. By which I mean a mostly dead reaper. There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead the only thing to do is search through the hull an look for loose technology.
The problem with Cerberus is that they did not employ a talented miracle man to assess the deadness of the derelict reaper.
It'd be hilarious if the Leviathan was indoctrinating the Batarians because it's a Reaper, and is the sole reason that the Batarians are the way they are.
...Becoming indoctrinated without a living Reaper to guide them, they simply act upon the 'reaping' instincts and try to enslave every race they come across. It could fly.
Don't you worry none about the noble Batarians though. Dr. Shepard is on the case. Shep is an expert on dealing with indoctrination and has successfully dealt with many notable cases. :twisted:
If there's no reaper the indoctrinated just sit there and die.
Even the dead one in two was alive on some level though.
Right. Not 'no' reaper, 'no living' reaper. By which I mean a mostly dead reaper. There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead the only thing to do is search through the hull an look for loose technology.
The problem with Cerberus is that they did not employ a talented miracle man to assess the deadness of the derelict reaper.
was sure it would be harder to punch him down but it turned out his attacks were weak enough that I could just charge every time he dropped my shields with melee
My first insanity run was as an engineer, out of a fit of masochism which turned out to be remarkably easy.
I like when the drone survives long enough for you to fire off an incinerate in between refreshes. I wouldn't say it's anywhere near adrenaline rush, though, because it tanks one dude...the other scion and husks, for example, are still a problem.
I remember doing my first insanity playthrough with an engineer as well, and it was night and day easier than subsequent insanity playthroughs with other classes. For me, the sexiest thing about the drone was that it would knock enemies out from cover for easy takedowns. It was the first thing I would activate in battle, then reactivate if (when) it was destroyed. Really, it has to be treated as a sort of buff that you want to keep activated for as long as possible.
I upgraded it all the way and finally settled on Attack Drone, but to this day I still don't know if the upgraded attack was worth it over the situational explosion damage you get with Explosive Drone--especially given the way you have to constantly recycle these things on insanity, and so have that many more "explosion" opportunities. I would say probably Attack worked better, but it was a close call. It will cheese boss fights regardless.
But yeah, I had all these preconceptions about how Engineer would be a non-scaling "mage" class and the weakest one to try on insanity, and it ended up being the easiest instead. As long as you're rock paper scissoring intelligently against armor and shields and throwing out the drone on cooldown, then it's a cakewalk, the forums poster posted feelingly.
Given the tendency of drone to only tie up single enemies, the feebleness of the "explosion" and the fact that they often survive for quite a bit, I usually just go with Attack Drone.
Of course, the utility of the Drone isn't wrapped up in its upgrades though, so it doesn't matter all that much which you go with.
Edit: I guess it also depends somewhat on how you use it. I tend to sic it on the same enemies I'm currently attacking, to drive them out of cover or stall them, so I'm actually protecting the drone. If you tend to just dump it somewhere and move onto another target, explosive might be better.
Ugh. I still don't know if I'm willing to pay the $7 for Arrival, or the extra $20 for the deluxe edition. If I had a real job, this decision would be much easier.
The collector edition joke was already made, by Bioware, for the game that actually had collectors. Collectors' Edition. Grammar is power!
Carrot, I don't think you're missing anything by watching a Let's Play of Arrival, preferably post-suicide mission. As for ME3, consider the likelihood of your paying presumably $7 for the day 1 DLC squadmate/mission, and if you'd do that, whether $13 is worth a postcard litho, tie-in artbook, and a pack of extra guns (and the tin and robodog and whatever else is in there). If you had to pick one or the other, I'd definitely go for the ME3 one, but if only the squadmate interests you, that's no sweat.
I think it would be weird if that huge living ship played any role seeing as it is a Farscape reference.
oh please, if you're going to start that we may as well list all the parallels between the mass effect franchise and others.
I will have my day, mark my words!
i'm willing to bet the Leviathan does show up in ME3
but i'm also betting the Batarians don't have it
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I loaded up ME1 to see how far I need to go before I can take my last run through of the game to ME2.
Was promptly reminded that the Paragon way of dealing with Corporal Toombs is killing him without the extra decisions. God I hope he isn't important in 3.
Corporal Toombs is the only man in the galaxy who knows where The Illusive Man is hiding...
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So guess who finally got around to wiping out an entire system of Batarian scum? ME! Yaaaay!
So that's one canon playthrough done. I think I accidentally started a romance with Thane so I stopped talking to him. I intend to remain loyal to Liara so matter what. At least for this save.
Anyway, that's enough Mass Effect for me right now. I have a bunch of other games to play. Mainly fallout New Vegas.
So guess who finally got around to wiping out an entire system of Batarian scum? ME! Yaaaay!
So that's one canon playthrough done. I think I accidentally started a romance with Thane so I stopped talking to him. I intend to remain loyal to Liara so matter what. At least for this save.
Anyway, that's enough Mass Effect for me right now. I have a bunch of other games to play. Mainly fallout New Vegas.
You could have always just dumped him hardcore when he tries to get with you before the suicide mission. Make him cry.
I keep meaning to play through Mass Effect 2 again and get myself up to speed for Mass Effect 3. I haven't got any of the extra DLC except what you get for buying the game new. Is any of the DLC great enough that I can feel good about shelling out the extra cash for it? Kasumi tempted me and my canon run through of Mass Effect I did romance Liara so should I get Shadow Broker?
I just did the Arrival last night and I thought that was worth the cash. I had a lot of fun with that. It also gives you a better idea of how imminenet the attack is. Kasumi is an awesome squad mate. I love her abilities. The SMG you get during her mission is fucking amazing. And her quest was a lot of fun!
Firewalker is meh so far.
I haven't done Overlord of Shadow Broker yet.
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In order of greatness:
Shadow Broker (So. Good.)
Stolen Memory (Ocean's 11 2 in space, new gun, excellent squadmate)
Overlord (Good fun, some nice combat and probably the best Paragon Interrupt you will ever take)
Arrival (Bridging story into ME3, quite good fun, but a lot of people didn't like it because it is just Shepard. This makes it badass, so sod 'em :P )
Kasumi is one of the best squad mates personally and mechanically and nets you an amazing SMG to boot, so you can decide whether that's worth it or not -- having her means she'll show up in ME3, but it will probably be a very minor role since only a fraction of people have her, and while it also means the SMG carries over to ME3, presumably you can acquire it there for the first time even without. If you were looking for only one, Shadow Broker is unquestionably the winner. It's as good as anything in the main game, and better yet if your Shep pursued Liara in ME1.
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here's the thing
most of those planet descriptions can be easily dismissed because they're long-dead ruins or just some crazy visions some guy had
but the Leviathan is an actual, documented thing that we know the batarians have, before ME2 I would have expected it to show up well before Klendagon and now I'm sure it will show up in ME3 if we visit Khar'shan
Origin: Viycktor
Don't you worry none about the noble Batarians though. Dr. Shepard is on the case. Shep is an expert on dealing with indoctrination and has successfully dealt with many notable cases. :twisted:
Origin: Viycktor
I don't mind the crashed Normandy, only been to it a couple of times but its pretty nice
and what's with this sudden internet hate for Zaeed that I didn't notice until a few months ago
You're using a gun designed to shoot through tanks, so I'm going to go with "yes."
I think a lot of people didn't like him because you get his loyalty mission immediately, so basically the first real experience you're likely to get of his character is the rather unpleasant choice that mission forces on you. With everyone else, even Jack, you actually talk to them and learn about their character before having to deal with possibly unpleasant facets of their personality that come up in loyalty missions.
For example, imagine if Garrus was a totally new character ("Barrus") and in your very first conversation on board the Normandy he gave you the mission to help kill Sidonis. It isn't as sadistic a choice as Zaeed's mission, and Barrus doesn't try to shoot you in one outcome, but it would still color your perception of his character differently if your first major interaction with Barrus is to be his accomplice in the daylight murder of a guy surrounded by civilians. Also, you can't actually talk to Barrus like a normal squadmate.
Regardless Zaeed's the best because he was hating Batarians before Shepard was even born. Goddamn terrorists.
If there's no reaper the indoctrinated just sit there and die.
Even the dead one in two was alive on some level though.
drone ties him up for about five or six seconds at a time, during which he completely turns his back on you
the only time even got a shot at me was for fractions of a second between reupping it and he barely even managed to advance on me
i'm beginning to think the drone is right up there with adrenaline rush in being borderline bullshit
I like when the drone survives long enough for you to fire off an incinerate in between refreshes. I wouldn't say it's anywhere near adrenaline rush, though, because it tanks one dude...the other scion and husks, for example, are still a problem.
The problem with Cerberus is that they did not employ a talented miracle man to assess the deadness of the derelict reaper.
Origin: Viycktor
But even a dead god can dream
on my vanguard fight with SB
he tried melee bashing me once or twice
and it didn't even take off half my shields
you don't step to shep
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was sure it would be harder to punch him down but it turned out his attacks were weak enough that I could just charge every time he dropped my shields with melee
I remember doing my first insanity playthrough with an engineer as well, and it was night and day easier than subsequent insanity playthroughs with other classes. For me, the sexiest thing about the drone was that it would knock enemies out from cover for easy takedowns. It was the first thing I would activate in battle, then reactivate if (when) it was destroyed. Really, it has to be treated as a sort of buff that you want to keep activated for as long as possible.
I upgraded it all the way and finally settled on Attack Drone, but to this day I still don't know if the upgraded attack was worth it over the situational explosion damage you get with Explosive Drone--especially given the way you have to constantly recycle these things on insanity, and so have that many more "explosion" opportunities. I would say probably Attack worked better, but it was a close call. It will cheese boss fights regardless.
But yeah, I had all these preconceptions about how Engineer would be a non-scaling "mage" class and the weakest one to try on insanity, and it ended up being the easiest instead. As long as you're rock paper scissoring intelligently against armor and shields and throwing out the drone on cooldown, then it's a cakewalk, the forums poster posted feelingly.
Of course, the utility of the Drone isn't wrapped up in its upgrades though, so it doesn't matter all that much which you go with.
Edit: I guess it also depends somewhat on how you use it. I tend to sic it on the same enemies I'm currently attacking, to drive them out of cover or stall them, so I'm actually protecting the drone. If you tend to just dump it somewhere and move onto another target, explosive might be better.
This is the best engineer
Carrot, I don't think you're missing anything by watching a Let's Play of Arrival, preferably post-suicide mission. As for ME3, consider the likelihood of your paying presumably $7 for the day 1 DLC squadmate/mission, and if you'd do that, whether $13 is worth a postcard litho, tie-in artbook, and a pack of extra guns (and the tin and robodog and whatever else is in there). If you had to pick one or the other, I'd definitely go for the ME3 one, but if only the squadmate interests you, that's no sweat.
oh please, if you're going to start that we may as well list all the parallels between the mass effect franchise and others.
I will have my day, mark my words!
What heathens do you refer to my son?
he'll get a hero's death, protecting the crew.
but i'm also betting the Batarians don't have it
Was promptly reminded that the Paragon way of dealing with Corporal Toombs is killing him without the extra decisions. God I hope he isn't important in 3.
So that's one canon playthrough done. I think I accidentally started a romance with Thane so I stopped talking to him. I intend to remain loyal to Liara so matter what. At least for this save.
Anyway, that's enough Mass Effect for me right now. I have a bunch of other games to play. Mainly fallout New Vegas.
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You could have always just dumped him hardcore when he tries to get with you before the suicide mission. Make him cry.
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Firewalker is meh so far.
I haven't done Overlord of Shadow Broker yet.
Shadow Broker (So. Good.)
Stolen Memory (Ocean's 11 2 in space, new gun, excellent squadmate)
Overlord (Good fun, some nice combat and probably the best Paragon Interrupt you will ever take)
Arrival (Bridging story into ME3, quite good fun, but a lot of people didn't like it because it is just Shepard. This makes it badass, so sod 'em :P )
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Guess I'm good to go then!
You can watch the other two on Youtube.