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Avengers: AvX CHAMPIONS. "wedabes" declares Captain America.

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  • AmiguAmigu Registered User regular
    Yeah I guess that is an element that Superman lacks. I guess he's also just that extra bit patriotic and Problematic for me I mean his name is ... Captain America.

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Cap's an unusual kind of Patriot though

    the opposite of what you might think he was, very anti-jingoism

  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    He even gave up the Captain American name in the 70s after becoming disillusioned with the american government.

    These days he's very specifically portrayed as someone who embodies the American ideal, rather than some sort of spokesperson or representative of the american government.

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    i feel like Waid portrayed Cap as someone unwilling to kill in his run in the 90s though I might be misremembering.

  • Vann DirasVann Diras Registered User regular
    i think comparing cap's unwillingness to kill his enemies to what's going on in new avengers is unfair, too
    the moral they're asking steve to compromise is killing an entire world's worth of people to save their own. mostly innocent people, even

    that's a fucked up line to cross, even if it seems necessary. that's cap's whole point

  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Vann Diras wrote: »
    i think comparing cap's unwillingness to kill his enemies to what's going on in new avengers is unfair, too
    the moral they're asking steve to compromise is killing an entire world's worth of people to save their own. mostly innocent people, even

    that's a fucked up line to cross, even if it seems necessary. that's cap's whole point

    With the additional fact that he's worried that
    The killing option will be the easier and they'll fail see less terrible alternatives

    Honestly I think everybody who is cheering the Illuminati smacking down Cap are going to be pretty sad when this story resolves. Especially considering how the alternate universe Reed story ended in FF.

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  • WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    I still think Cap
    Sent the stones away, he was wearing the Gauntlet, he could do anything

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  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    I still think Cap
    Sent the stones away, he was wearing the Gauntlet, he could do anything
    Me too.
    I assume he was worried about the Gauntlet's abuse and did something that would allow him to summon the gauntlet if it came to it but convince the Illuminati to work on other solutions.

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  • DarcsteelDarcsteel Wildcard NC United StatesRegistered User regular
    Vann Diras wrote: »
    i think comparing cap's unwillingness to kill his enemies to what's going on in new avengers is unfair, too
    the moral they're asking steve to compromise is killing an entire world's worth of people to save their own. mostly innocent people, even

    that's a fucked up line to cross, even if it seems necessary. that's cap's whole point

    Actually its a bit larger then that
    the worlds colliding destroys both realities. Thats how Hyperion was floating in a blanked out universe. the Illumanti realize this and also realize that they have to have the option of destroying one earth to protect that reality as well as our own.

    Caps morals aside he's treating everyone else as if they can't understand the weight of what it is they are considering and like Mr. F. said that's straight up insulting.

  • ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    Avengers Arena #4 spoiler
    Chase is the new Darkhawk.

    He found the amulet at the end of he issue. They haven't shown what happened to Chris Powell yet, but neither he nor Juston are X'ed out on the credits page yet.

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Hell yes, that sounds fantastic.

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  • UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    Avengers Arena #4 spoiler
    Chase is the new Darkhawk.

    He found the amulet at the end of he issue. They haven't shown what happened to Chris Powell yet, but neither he nor Juston are X'ed out on the credits page yet.
    Fearghaill wrote: »
    by "someone" you guys mean Chase or Cammi, right?

    because those are the best choices.

    fuckin called it

    yes yes yes

  • UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    man did I ever not like how they drew Chase in this issue though

  • OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    So how good or bad was the first issue of the new Secret Avengers series?

  • Vann DirasVann Diras Registered User regular
    Darcsteel wrote: »
    Vann Diras wrote: »
    i think comparing cap's unwillingness to kill his enemies to what's going on in new avengers is unfair, too
    the moral they're asking steve to compromise is killing an entire world's worth of people to save their own. mostly innocent people, even

    that's a fucked up line to cross, even if it seems necessary. that's cap's whole point

    Actually its a bit larger then that
    the worlds colliding destroys both realities. Thats how Hyperion was floating in a blanked out universe. the Illumanti realize this and also realize that they have to have the option of destroying one earth to protect that reality as well as our own.

    Caps morals aside he's treating everyone else as if they can't understand the weight of what it is they are considering and like Mr. F. said that's straight up insulting.

    oh yeah no i understand the threat described in the book
    and reed's reaction to cap's refusal to budge is completely warranted

    just that rooting for like cap getting taken out of the group or something is weird since while someone might be sick of high and mighty steve, his stance on this issue is... pretty understandable. it's a fucked up thing, and cap doesn't want to compromise this point so easily because he's afraid they'll miss the better solution by doing it

  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    So i was catching up on avengers today and i noticed an ar box in one of the panels in 3... how do you access those?

  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    You download the Marvel AR app on your smartphone, which scans the page and then plays the content on your phone. It's pretty neat. It even works when you're scanning pages on a tablet!

  • ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    Owenashi wrote: »
    So how good or bad was the first issue of the new Secret Avengers series?

    I decided to be the canary in the coal mine and picked it up.

    It's....not bad. Not particularly mind-blowing, but decent I guess. It's certainly a departure from the previous series, and given how many great Avenger books there are right now this isn't quite in that tier. I might read another issue or two but it definitely didn't jump to the must buy list.

  • Man of the WavesMan of the Waves Registered User regular
    I picked up Secret Avengers, but I haven't read it yet. It's at the bottom of my Marvel read pile.

    I had to pick up the Leinil Yu variant cause the regular cover was so bad.

  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    http://www.uproxx.com/gammasquad/2013/02/the-comic-you-should-be-reading-this-week-secret-avengers-1/
    What’s most likeable about it is that it’s a tight, concise, balanced team. The cast is small, Spencer introduces them efficiently, and within the confines of an editorial mandate, he makes the book tense. Hawkeye does not get the long end of the stick in this issue, and it’ll make you cringe.

    Meanwhile, Luke Ross is enjoying himself, bringing a fairly cinematic sense to the book. Like this interchange:

    Ross doesn’t get much of a chance to show off: This book is mostly dialogue. But it’s a hint of things to come.

    Calling this an Avengers book seems a bit of a stretch, but that’s not for lack of talent on display. If Spencer can keep up this pace, this will be a great espionage book.

  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    I read it and I frankly didnt like it very much

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    Nothing about it sounds good to me, but I figured there's one opinion from someone who read it. I'm inclined to listen to Bale though.

  • UltimateInfernoUltimateInferno Registered User regular
    Seems like Spencer is probably just cow rioting avengers while the Infinity Event happens.

    "Ride or Die?" asked Goku

    "Ride or Die" confirmed Dominic Toretto, as they took off to find the Dragon Balls in hopes of reviving their friend Sonic
  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    You're going to have to help me out with the meaning of "cow riot". Google is not coming up with anything.

  • UltimateInfernoUltimateInferno Registered User regular
    Oh my autocorrect , should have been co-writing. Though cow riot sounds awesome.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    It sounded like a slang term from the Old West for something!

  • GethGeth Legion Perseus VeilRegistered User, Moderator, Penny Arcade Staff, Vanilla Staff vanilla
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  • WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    Geth, what you think does a body good, and what actually does a body good, are WILDLY different things !

    ( still donate to solidsaints tho)

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    Adam Kubert was labeled as the artist for all of Avengers #6 but I swear the Shang-Chi/Captain Universe stuff was a ghost penciller compared to the Tony/Spidey/Bomb Boy/Solar Flare stuff, just the faces and how the panels were structured.

  • TurambarTurambar Independent Registered User regular
    G-g-ghost?!

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  • AmiguAmigu Registered User regular
    Can I just say I really dig the little nod to tumblr in the summary page of Young Avengers. Also "Hawkeye: Not the hawkguy".

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  • UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    if anyone else is reading Avengers Arena
    Who else thinks that Katy/Apex has some ability to control technology, and that's how she's both using Deathlocket to do her dirty work, and also possibly what happened to Juston's sentinel and Darkhawk. I'm definitely getting scheming mastermind vibes here.

    I thought the Avengers Academy kids were the ones at risk of becoming supervillains, and yet the Braddock Academy kids seem more bad then good.

    I'm digging Cullen and Anachronism though. I can't wait to find out what Bloodstone's abilities are.

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Yeah the first part of your post is totally what I am expecting. And I love the Braddock Academy kids. Bloodstone and Anachronism are a great duo and Kid Briton is an entertaining ass.

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  • SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    You just know that Bloodstone is going to end up being a crazy badass. I assume he'll either be a crazy monster hunting badass like Elsa Bloodstone or he will be a monster himself.

    Also, in the Kid Briton flashback did anyone else notice that the kid he was picking on started to transform into something? It was odd that nothing came of that.

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    No, that's Anachronism. He transformed into what he looks like in the present.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Hey, Young Avengers readers, check out the top comment on this song:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzhbGaCwBzs

  • SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    No, that's Anachronism. He transformed into what he looks like in the present.

    Oh! Really? I had no idea. That went right over my head.

  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    it is taking ENTIRELY TOO LONG for a new issue of New Avengers to come out

  • WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    it is taking ENTIRELY TOO LONG for a new issue of New Avengers to come out

    This statement holds true even if it had only been 5 minutes since the last issue came out!

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited March 2013
    Avengers #7, nice reveal in the story. Beautiful art, kind of a waste of the first few pages in terms of taking too long for the setup.

    It basically read like a much better version of that Xorn/Guardian issue Bendis wrote where Alpha Flight died.

    TexiKen on
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