Waiting on Kepler makes sense whether or not I actually want one of the new cards. There are bound to be some price changes in the current cards as the result of the release of a whole new line.
so one of the fans on my gigabyte 5870 has started rattling.
does anyone have experience repairing or replacing GPU fans? any tips?
It's just like any other part: Be careful, and make sure you order the correct replacement. You could pull stickers off until you find the model number, and search online for it, or search for an aftermarket cooler upgrade.
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GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
Waiting on Kepler makes sense whether or not I actually want one of the new cards. There are bound to be some price changes in the current cards as the result of the release of a whole new line.
Yeah, waiting on Kepler makes some sense at this point...I just don't think waiting on Ivy Bridge does, as Ivy Bridge isn't going to drive the price of Sandy Bridge chips down that much right away, and it's farther away than Kepler's launch.
Ivy's got two strikes against waiting for it. One, we still don't know exactly when it's out. And two, intel chips seem to retain a high cost even after they've been EoL'd. Hell, some 775 stuff still costs a fair bit even today
So the PC I built last fall is starting to overheat pretty often. I noticed it would do this a few times after playing LoL for a long time in the winter or a lot of Battlefield 3 but I guess my room being much colder prevented it from happening immediately.
Speedfan just showed temperatures in the 40-50C range and my case fan is going insane (but oddly the fan on the AMD Phenom is not) the noise is bad to say the very least. What do I buy to fix this? Would just a few more fans stop the heat problem?
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ShogunHair long; money long; me and broke wizards we don't get alongRegistered Userregular
Ivy's got two strikes against waiting for it. One, we still don't know exactly when it's out. And two, intel chips seem to retain a high cost even after they've been EoL'd. Hell, some 775 stuff still costs a fair bit even today
they have no real competition. I don't mean to sound like an asshole when I say that, but it's true. If AMD had something that could compete at a better price point things might be different. As it stands now waiting for Ivy Bridge is like waiting on DDR4. As far as Kepler goes I would wait on Kepler just for Kepler. A $175 Kepler card will equal or better today's $250 card.
So the PC I built last fall is starting to overheat pretty often. I noticed it would do this a few times after playing LoL for a long time in the winter or a lot of Battlefield 3 but I guess my room being much colder prevented it from happening immediately.
Speedfan just showed temperatures in the 40-50C range and my case fan is going insane (but oddly the fan on the AMD Phenom is not) the noise is bad to say the very least. What do I buy to fix this? Would just a few more fans stop the heat problem?
Well what are the exact temps for your CPU and GPU? 40-50C for a CPU is mostly normal. The hottest thing in a computer is the GPU. My two HD4870s idle at 70C, but are built to withstand 100C.
If your case fan is getting loud, it's probably going to die soon. Try removing it and watch your temps, possibly getting a new one.
phenoms need to be run cooler then intel stuff. Still 50c isn't awful.
start by thoroughly dusting out your machine
Yeah the numbers were climbing toward 52 when I shut it down. Thing is during that spike the only thing I had running was Netflix. Although just prior to that I had mass effect open.
Would two new case fans fix all of this mess? Any recommendations?
phenoms need to be run cooler then intel stuff. Still 50c isn't awful.
start by thoroughly dusting out your machine
Yeah the numbers were climbing toward 52 when I shut it down. Thing is during that spike the only thing I had running was Netflix. Although just prior to that I had mass effect open.
Would two new case fans fix all of this mess? Any recommendations?
Pfff,those are baby temps. My cores hit over 80 without shutting down with the burn test.
Well like I said you probably need a cleaning of your heatsinks and fans. Dust buildup can thrash thermals pretty quickly.
I'd say if that doesn't solve it alone you'll probably want to look into a better cpu cooler. Something along the lines of a coolermaster 212+ should do the trick
What kind of case do you have and how many case fans are you running right now?
phenoms need to be run cooler then intel stuff. Still 50c isn't awful.
start by thoroughly dusting out your machine
Yeah the numbers were climbing toward 52 when I shut it down. Thing is during that spike the only thing I had running was Netflix. Although just prior to that I had mass effect open.
Would two new case fans fix all of this mess? Any recommendations?
Pfff,those are baby temps. My cores hit over 80 without shutting down with the burn test.
Yeah I know. My 6870 is running at 57c right now playing rift.
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Well like I said you probably need a cleaning of your heatsinks and fans. Dust buildup can thrash thermals pretty quickly.
I'd say if that doesn't solve it alone you'll probably want to look into a better cpu cooler. Something along the lines of a coolermaster 212+ should do the trick
What kind of case do you have and how many case fans are you running right now?
It's a cheap-o NZXT mid tower case. Classic something or other? I'll have to look it up. Unfortunately I'm st my parents place for spring break so I can't do any further trouble shooting til Friday or Saturday but a can of compressed air is on the list. Just debating if I should go ahead and order some more things now.
Oh and I don't have any additional fans. Now that I think about it my old case came with three fans as opposed to this single one.
Really the fan sounds like a jet engine. It's astounding. I thought it might have been the GTX 570 when it first started up.
Well like I said you probably need a cleaning of your heatsinks and fans. Dust buildup can thrash thermals pretty quickly.
I'd say if that doesn't solve it alone you'll probably want to look into a better cpu cooler. Something along the lines of a coolermaster 212+ should do the trick
What kind of case do you have and how many case fans are you running right now?
It's a cheap-o NZXT mid tower case. Classic something or other? I'll have to look it up. Unfortunately I'm st my parents place for spring break so I can't do any further trouble shooting til Friday or Saturday but a can of compressed air is on the list. Just debating if I should go ahead and order some more things now.
Oh and I don't have any additional fans. Now that I think about it my old case came with three fans as opposed to this single one.
Really the fan sounds like a jet engine. It's astounding. I thought it might have been the GTX 570 when it first started up.
I'd hold off on buying anything else until you can try just dusting stuff out. If that doesn't yield results that you're happy with we can go from there, but canned air is cheaper than most any other solution.
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Well like I said you probably need a cleaning of your heatsinks and fans. Dust buildup can thrash thermals pretty quickly.
I'd say if that doesn't solve it alone you'll probably want to look into a better cpu cooler. Something along the lines of a coolermaster 212+ should do the trick
What kind of case do you have and how many case fans are you running right now?
It's a cheap-o NZXT mid tower case. Classic something or other? I'll have to look it up. Unfortunately I'm st my parents place for spring break so I can't do any further trouble shooting til Friday or Saturday but a can of compressed air is on the list. Just debating if I should go ahead and order some more things now.
Oh and I don't have any additional fans. Now that I think about it my old case came with three fans as opposed to this single one.
Really the fan sounds like a jet engine. It's astounding. I thought it might have been the GTX 570 when it first started up.
I'd hold off on buying anything else until you can try just dusting stuff out. If that doesn't yield results that you're happy with we can go from there, but canned air is cheaper than most any other solution.
Hmm. Good point. Now that I think about it my last rig is here st my parent's place. I could probably canabalize one of the case fans from it.
So, I need to replace my headset with a new one, as well as a new monitor. I can spend 20 bucks on another Lifechat LX 3000 and that will last me another 2 years, but I'm wondering what is better that uses usb as the hookup (my front audio ports on my otherwise perfect aluminum case stopped working years ago), and is circumaural?
As the the monitor, I looked around my usual parts suggestions places like Tech Report, but their system build monitors were a bit pricey. Destructoid and RPS had some recent articles, but there wasn't much consensus. Then I saw the msot recent build guide over at Ars and after looking at their suggestions, I found this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236153&Tpk=VS248H-P 24" LCD and they spoke highly of this model. Thoughts?
EDIT I forgot to mention my current monitor is a Samsung SyncMaster 710N, which is 17" and not even widescreen. It still works perfectly fine but I think I could sue something bigger for gaming.
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GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
Ivy's got two strikes against waiting for it. One, we still don't know exactly when it's out. And two, intel chips seem to retain a high cost even after they've been EoL'd. Hell, some 775 stuff still costs a fair bit even today
they have no real competition. I don't mean to sound like an asshole when I say that, but it's true. If AMD had something that could compete at a better price point things might be different. As it stands now waiting for Ivy Bridge is like waiting on DDR4. As far as Kepler goes I would wait on Kepler just for Kepler. A $175 Kepler card will equal or better today's $250 card.
I hate to say it, but Shoun has a point. Intel is so firmly in the drivers seat with the discreet microprocessor right now, AMD has a lot of work to do to catch up. Sure, Intel could get lazy and have another Pentium 4 incident, and AMD could have another Thunderbird up their sleeve...but it's not seeming likely with what we see today.
I am sad about it too, I love AMD's stuff...but I also a pragmatic and I use what's best, and right now that's Intel.
Waiting on Kepler makes sense whether or not I actually want one of the new cards. There are bound to be some price changes in the current cards as the result of the release of a whole new line.
Yeah, waiting on Kepler makes some sense at this point...I just don't think waiting on Ivy Bridge does, as Ivy Bridge isn't going to drive the price of Sandy Bridge chips down that much right away, and it's farther away than Kepler's launch.
Kepler might be worth waiting for, but I do agree that it's mostly a price point issue. Kepler's essentially just the same architecture as the 4/5 series cards from NVIDIA, but on a smaller die (much like Ivy Bridge is just Sandy Bridge on a smaller die and tri-gate transistors) which lets them cram more stuff (CUDA cores) into the cards. Early reports indicate a performance improvement over the 7970, but I haven't seen much about power consumption and heat, which doesn't surprise me at all, because NVIDIA is usually behind AMD in that area. Depending on pricing (and how AMD prices their cards in response) Kepler may or may not be worth the time, particularly at release.
I sure as poop hope the 7850 or 6950 drop... poopnuts
also - I don't know anything about tv screens. I have an active matrix tft right now (samsung syncmaster b2430 and it's great) but thinking about switching to IPS as my iPad seems to be easier on my eyes and it's IPS correct?
looking rather indulgently at the 27"+ road but just 1080p resolution (able to plug in ps3 via HDMI)
came across this tv and it got me thinking - are those big tv's good for being used as a computer monitor? I once used a 37" vizio that had a 13xx by 768 res and it was terrible as a pc monitor.
so thoughts? anything IPS, 1080p, LED? 27"+ that won't break the bank or is it an inevitable 800 bucks?
I use a sharp 1080p 32" for my comp monitor, and had a westinghouse 1080p 38" before that until it died. they work just fine, but your going to want to be further away than you normally would with a regular monitor and going above 38" probably won't work very well.
just make sure to check reviews on the tv for it's response time and any issues it may have, some tv's have weird little problems when used as a monitor.
@cormac this may sound weird but...WAY too many pixels and no HDMI. As it stands I run 1920x1080 and have windows magnified 150% and then chrome another 150% on top of that ^o^
more pixels=more strain on eyes and gfx card. Kind of why I've been thinking about these tv's,. They're all 1080 p and ginormous for about the same price but I'd hate to get something as terrible as the super cheapo vizio I used in a temp furnished apartment. However a good IPS screen not only looks real purty but is easier on the braino
No, I can understand where your'e coming from. I guess I've just grown accustomed to small font sizes on large monitors. I missed that you were looking to buy a TV as a monitor and not a 27" computer monitor, sorry about that. I'll admit I know next to nothing about using a TV as a PC monitor because my knowledge of current TV tech, other than know that when I do buy a TV that I want a plasma. I haven't kept current with what's going on with TV because I barely watch TV as is outside of F1 and sports car races and a few other shows, and my computer monitor serves as my TV.
preference wise I guess it's just IPS. I know about as much about tv tech as you do ^o^ I don't watch TV so the main use would be for my PC and PS3. I did just find this guy but reading up a couple people posted that has a bit of lag in games...which is poopoo =( probably good for ps3 (metal gear/final fantasy/silent hill type stuff).
although looking at other IPS monitors in that 27" range they all seem to have a 12ms GTG response =/
If you're looking for a good 27" IPS that's cheap I'd suggest the ACHIEVA Shimian QH270 or CATLEAP Q270. It's the same panel Dell uses in their 2712s, without the anti-glare coating, at half the price ($380 is the going rate at the moment, although a lot of people are grabbing them for $365 or so). They've just started showing up in the past couple months in the US, I'm not sure you can get them anywhere but Ebay (the companies in Korea seem to be doing essentially direct sales). Korean law requires them to replace any monitor with more than 5 dead pixels, but some companies offer a (worthwhile) service to ensure that you get no dead pixels. Head over to the monitor section of HardForum if you want to know more, they're the hot topic and shouldn't be hard to find more info on.
They are 2560x1440, however, so they may not be what you're looking for.
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proyebatGARY WAS HEREASH IS A LOSERRegistered Userregular
preference wise I guess it's just IPS. I know about as much about tv tech as you do ^o^ I don't watch TV so the main use would be for my PC and PS3. I did just find this guy but reading up a couple people posted that has a bit of lag in games...which is poopoo =( probably good for ps3 (metal gear/final fantasy/silent hill type stuff).
although looking at other IPS monitors in that 27" range they all seem to have a 12ms GTG response =/
GTG response is a flawed benchmark that people use to justify monitors for gaming. Most people have their monitors set at 60Hz, which means the fastest response of their monitors would be 16.7ms. Another point is that the human reaction time (>200ms) is the limiting factor in gaming. Any monitor should be more than enough to game with.
Also, all IPS displays are going to have slower response times than TN panels. Personally, in the almost 10 years Ive been using IPS displays Ive never noticed any ghosting (although Ive basically only owned two IPS displays - Dell 2005FPW and the HP zr24w).
A quality IPS panel shouldn't have any ghosting issues.
It won't look quite as silky smooth as a 120hz panel that's actually running at 100+FPS, but it looks pretty damn good. I've had my IPS for over a year now, and even if I play games without vsync on and push the FPS up really high there are no visual artifacts really.
With my tax return, I'm thinking of getting an LG 23'' IPS236V for $200. Any one have one? Any have other recommendations instead? Looking for a 21-24" inch IPS without breaking the bank.
Note: I'm currently using an LG L204WTX so I think anything will be an upgrade.
You can always look at the Dell U2312HM for around $250. Some people really hate the AG coating, which you can remove if you don't want the warranty. I have one and don't mind it in the least.
So I use my HTPC as a home server, but I have it set to go to sleep when its not in use. Is it possible for it to wake from sleep over the internet? I still want it to sleep, but I also want to be able to access files on the thing without having to make sure its awake before I do so (well, I want people to be able to access the server without having to first go into my room where its located to make sure its on).
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Yeah, look up using WOL with a Magic Packet sending program. It generally works better when it is sent from another PC on the same subnet because it uses UDP (port 7, I think), but it seems like I have read that you can get it to work over the internet somehow.
Looks like I'm gonna have to delay my PC build for another two weeks due to new bills to pay.
On the bright side, that gives me more time to look it over.
For example, this EVGA GTX 560 is only $30 more than the Sapphire 6850 that I was planning on buying (and $20 less than most other 650s). And according to the Anandtech benches, the 650 would give me significantly better performance on the games I'd play most often right now (Skyrim and Battlefield 3). So, three questions: would making the switch be worth it? Has anyone had experience with that EVGA 650? And would the 550W PSU in my wishlist be able to run it, or would I need to bump up to a 650W?
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Yeah, waiting on Kepler makes some sense at this point...I just don't think waiting on Ivy Bridge does, as Ivy Bridge isn't going to drive the price of Sandy Bridge chips down that much right away, and it's farther away than Kepler's launch.
Speedfan just showed temperatures in the 40-50C range and my case fan is going insane (but oddly the fan on the AMD Phenom is not) the noise is bad to say the very least. What do I buy to fix this? Would just a few more fans stop the heat problem?
they have no real competition. I don't mean to sound like an asshole when I say that, but it's true. If AMD had something that could compete at a better price point things might be different. As it stands now waiting for Ivy Bridge is like waiting on DDR4. As far as Kepler goes I would wait on Kepler just for Kepler. A $175 Kepler card will equal or better today's $250 card.
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Well what are the exact temps for your CPU and GPU? 40-50C for a CPU is mostly normal. The hottest thing in a computer is the GPU. My two HD4870s idle at 70C, but are built to withstand 100C.
If your case fan is getting loud, it's probably going to die soon. Try removing it and watch your temps, possibly getting a new one.
start by thoroughly dusting out your machine
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Yeah the numbers were climbing toward 52 when I shut it down. Thing is during that spike the only thing I had running was Netflix. Although just prior to that I had mass effect open.
Would two new case fans fix all of this mess? Any recommendations?
Pfff,those are baby temps. My cores hit over 80 without shutting down with the burn test.
I'd say if that doesn't solve it alone you'll probably want to look into a better cpu cooler. Something along the lines of a coolermaster 212+ should do the trick
What kind of case do you have and how many case fans are you running right now?
Yeah I know. My 6870 is running at 57c right now playing rift.
It's a cheap-o NZXT mid tower case. Classic something or other? I'll have to look it up. Unfortunately I'm st my parents place for spring break so I can't do any further trouble shooting til Friday or Saturday but a can of compressed air is on the list. Just debating if I should go ahead and order some more things now.
Oh and I don't have any additional fans. Now that I think about it my old case came with three fans as opposed to this single one.
Really the fan sounds like a jet engine. It's astounding. I thought it might have been the GTX 570 when it first started up.
I'd hold off on buying anything else until you can try just dusting stuff out. If that doesn't yield results that you're happy with we can go from there, but canned air is cheaper than most any other solution.
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Hmm. Good point. Now that I think about it my last rig is here st my parent's place. I could probably canabalize one of the case fans from it.
As the the monitor, I looked around my usual parts suggestions places like Tech Report, but their system build monitors were a bit pricey. Destructoid and RPS had some recent articles, but there wasn't much consensus. Then I saw the msot recent build guide over at Ars and after looking at their suggestions, I found this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236153&Tpk=VS248H-P 24" LCD and they spoke highly of this model. Thoughts?
EDIT I forgot to mention my current monitor is a Samsung SyncMaster 710N, which is 17" and not even widescreen. It still works perfectly fine but I think I could sue something bigger for gaming.
I hate to say it, but Shoun has a point. Intel is so firmly in the drivers seat with the discreet microprocessor right now, AMD has a lot of work to do to catch up. Sure, Intel could get lazy and have another Pentium 4 incident, and AMD could have another Thunderbird up their sleeve...but it's not seeming likely with what we see today.
I am sad about it too, I love AMD's stuff...but I also a pragmatic and I use what's best, and right now that's Intel.
Kepler might be worth waiting for, but I do agree that it's mostly a price point issue. Kepler's essentially just the same architecture as the 4/5 series cards from NVIDIA, but on a smaller die (much like Ivy Bridge is just Sandy Bridge on a smaller die and tri-gate transistors) which lets them cram more stuff (CUDA cores) into the cards. Early reports indicate a performance improvement over the 7970, but I haven't seen much about power consumption and heat, which doesn't surprise me at all, because NVIDIA is usually behind AMD in that area. Depending on pricing (and how AMD prices their cards in response) Kepler may or may not be worth the time, particularly at release.
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also - I don't know anything about tv screens. I have an active matrix tft right now (samsung syncmaster b2430 and it's great) but thinking about switching to IPS as my iPad seems to be easier on my eyes and it's IPS correct?
looking rather indulgently at the 27"+ road but just 1080p resolution (able to plug in ps3 via HDMI)
came across this tv and it got me thinking - are those big tv's good for being used as a computer monitor? I once used a 37" vizio that had a 13xx by 768 res and it was terrible as a pc monitor.
so thoughts? anything IPS, 1080p, LED? 27"+ that won't break the bank or is it an inevitable 800 bucks?
just make sure to check reviews on the tv for it's response time and any issues it may have, some tv's have weird little problems when used as a monitor.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5636/hp-zr2740w-high-resolution-ips-that-doesnt-break-the-bank
more pixels=more strain on eyes and gfx card. Kind of why I've been thinking about these tv's,. They're all 1080 p and ginormous for about the same price but I'd hate to get something as terrible as the super cheapo vizio I used in a temp furnished apartment. However a good IPS screen not only looks real purty but is easier on the braino
although looking at other IPS monitors in that 27" range they all seem to have a 12ms GTG response =/
They are 2560x1440, however, so they may not be what you're looking for.
GTG response is a flawed benchmark that people use to justify monitors for gaming. Most people have their monitors set at 60Hz, which means the fastest response of their monitors would be 16.7ms. Another point is that the human reaction time (>200ms) is the limiting factor in gaming. Any monitor should be more than enough to game with.
It won't look quite as silky smooth as a 120hz panel that's actually running at 100+FPS, but it looks pretty damn good. I've had my IPS for over a year now, and even if I play games without vsync on and push the FPS up really high there are no visual artifacts really.
Note: I'm currently using an LG L204WTX so I think anything will be an upgrade.
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looking at crysis1 1440x900 res... I guess it is ok but not quite the lollipop gang it sounded like.
have an old eSata drive I wanted to plug in
motherboard has an eSata port
get it plugged in, attach it to the port.... Windows seizes up completely
30 seconds later, blue screen
uhhhhh
check the manual... when the eSata is active, it disables ONE internal Sata port to compensate.
which happens to be the port my primary drive was plugged into
so it literally disabled my main drive the second I plugged my eSata, while windows was running
*whoops*
had to crack it open and change the plug, which required moving my landcruiser video card which perfectly hid the ports
On the bright side, that gives me more time to look it over.
For example, this EVGA GTX 560 is only $30 more than the Sapphire 6850 that I was planning on buying (and $20 less than most other 650s). And according to the Anandtech benches, the 650 would give me significantly better performance on the games I'd play most often right now (Skyrim and Battlefield 3). So, three questions: would making the switch be worth it? Has anyone had experience with that EVGA 650? And would the 550W PSU in my wishlist be able to run it, or would I need to bump up to a 650W?