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ATi R600 = 300W 13.6"?

JWFokkerJWFokker Registered User regular
edited March 2007 in Games and Technology
http://www.hardocp.com/news.html?news=MjQ0MTcsLCxobmV3cywsLDE=
HardOCP wrote:
ATI is stating that a SINGLE R600 high end configuration will require 300 watts of power (+/-9%) and a DUAL R600 "CrossFire" high end configuration will require, as you might guess, 600 watts of power (+/-9%). Compare that to a single GeForce 8800 GTX that will pull 150 to 180 watts. Add in a CPU to that mix and you overtake most power supplies’ peak ratings on the retail shelves today.

Bigger than this?

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Yes.

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  • KarfKarf The Past Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    All I can say is

    D:

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  • brynstarbrynstar Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Yikes. That makes the 8800 look much more appealing, and I've typically stuck with ATI these days.

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  • slash000slash000 Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Needs its own external power plug, like the last line of Voodoos did, indeed.


    But.. seriously.. 300 watts? Jesus. Every time something like this happens, the 'other company' always comes around a couple of months later with an equally-powerful card that runs on half the power consumption.

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  • Recoil42Recoil42 Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I saw a picture of one of these a while back, but man, finally seeing not one, but TWO, crossfire'd, in a case?


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    HAHAHA OH WOW

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  • FatBabyFatBaby Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Thats what she said.



    Oh wait.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    edited March 2007
    Does it have a slot you can insert toast in?

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  • mausmalonemausmalone Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Echo wrote: »
    Does it have a slot you can insert toast in?

    If by "slot" you mean "anywhere within 5 feet of your desk" then the answer is "yes."

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  • DashuiDashui Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I could barely fit my 8800GTX into my machine. There's no way in hell I'd be able to fit an R600, unless I buy a full-sized tower. And those are heavy and bulky, especially compared to my 13 pound, awesome looking Cooler Master Mystique. The power consumption is a huge turn off, too.

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  • JWFokkerJWFokker Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    So I guess it needs to be said...

    Nvidia to buy AMD in five years.

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  • DusdaDusda is ashamed of this post SLC, UTRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Jesus Christ that's a lot of power.

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    That's.. over 9000!!



    sorry

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  • DashuiDashui Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I wonder if the R600 is going to be really noisy, too. I went from a 7900 to an 8800, and I thought something was wrong because there was no noise coming from the PC.

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  • mausmalonemausmalone Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    JWFokker wrote: »
    So I guess it needs to be said...

    Nvidia to buy AMD in five years.

    Definitely not... as AMD is considering selling ATi right now.

    See, ATi was making shit-tons of money before AMD bought them because they had a huge segment of the mobile market. AMD scooped them up, and now their mobility chipsets aren't going onto Intel motherboards anymore, and suddenly having ATi in their stable isn't really making AMD any money.

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  • gneGnegneGne Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Seriously.. Making things bigger is not what I call technological improvement.

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  • RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I hadn't heard of this card till just now.

    Is this DX10?

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  • Robo BeatRobo Beat Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Why do they even bother going through the MoBo power supply? You'd think that at 300 Watts, you'd start thinking about putting a power jack next to the video out plug to hook up to an external transformer.

    EDIT: and here's another thought: If I'm not mistaken, a US standard residential branch circuit can deliver 1800 Watts (120V RMS x 15 amps). Put two of these guys in on a Crossfire setup, and you've already used up 1/3rd of the capacity of a circuit that may be supplying power to two or three rooms in a house. Assuming that the rest of your system is similarly high-end, you could be coming quite close to popping the circuit breaker with your computer. Eek.

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  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    When's the full lineup being announced? I heard CeBit; that sound right?

    That's just fucking ridiculous. Now I'm really curious to see the stats for the rest of the line as well.

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  • CentipeedCentipeed Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I read in some article about it that they're releasing a non-OEM (ie. Retail) version right after that will be for consumers, and will be about the same size as the 1950XT. So this first version is apparently for OEM manufacturers or something.

    Let me see if I can find the article...

    http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/11/shots-surface-of-atis-r600-and-boy-is-she-a-big-one/
    The XTX version comes in retail and OEM versions and it's the OEM one (pictured) that really gets outlandish, with the 12.4-inch length and 270W of power consumption. The retail XTX cuts it down to 9.5-inches and 240W, while the weaker XT matches those specs.

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  • JWFokkerJWFokker Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    mausmalone wrote: »
    JWFokker wrote: »
    So I guess it needs to be said...

    Nvidia to buy AMD in five years.

    Definitely not... as AMD is considering selling ATi right now.

    See, ATi was making shit-tons of money before AMD bought them because they had a huge segment of the mobile market. AMD scooped them up, and now their mobility chipsets aren't going onto Intel motherboards anymore, and suddenly having ATi in their stable isn't really making AMD any money.

    What the hell are you talking about? AMD knew when they acquired ATi that they would no longer be producing chips for use on Intel boards. The point of purchasing ATi was so that they could have AMD brand chipsets and integrated graphics ala Intel (appealing to business customers), rather than relying on Nvidia and VIA, and so they could get access to GPU technology and make a dual or multicore CPU/GPU all-in-one chip, which appeals to all kinds of markets.

    http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/10/25/amd_announces_fusion_processor/
    http://www.internetnews.com/ent-news/article.php/3640251

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  • capable heartcapable heart Registered User regular
    edited September 2021
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  • JWFokkerJWFokker Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    It was mentioned in the HardOCP article and just about every other article since the first R600 card was unveiled that the retail card would be smaller, but the fact remains that ATi is producing a fucking HUGE video card. Just because only system integrators will be able to buy them doesn't mean anything. There are a fuckton of gaming PCs sold and a second hand market. Six to nine months from now when ATi refreshes the lineup, you'll see plenty of these behemoths on ebay.

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  • capable heartcapable heart Registered User regular
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  • DeusfauxDeusfaux Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    slash000 wrote: »
    Needs its own external power plug, like the last line of Voodoos did, indeed

    No it doesnt. It needs 2 PCI-e power plugs, but that's no different from nvidia's 8800.


    Also the OEM card is that long, not the retail one.




    OP, change your OP to reflect the proper information

    EDIT: what the guy above me said

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  • bongibongi regular
    edited March 2007
    like my penis 8)

    no but really that's a huge graphics card

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  • JihadJesusJihadJesus Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    mausmalone wrote: »
    Echo wrote: »
    Does it have a slot you can insert toast in?

    If by "slot" you mean "anywhere within 5 feet of your desk" then the answer is "yes."

    Goddamn you, now I have to replace the keyboard I just sprayed coffee all over D:

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  • DeusfauxDeusfaux Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I'm pretty sure the OEM card isnt even 13.6" , thats just the space ATI recommends you have to be able to put the card in.

    So the OP and title are even more off base.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    JWFokker wrote: »
    So I guess it needs to be said...

    Nvidia to buy AMD in five years.

    That's been said, and the reverse, so many times in the last decade it's not even funny.

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  • FreddyDFreddyD Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Ok, we know it isn't more than a foot long. What about power consumption? I have heard stories of a system with a 8800GTX card running happily on a 350W PSU and it looks like the R600 needs its own 350W PSU.

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  • DeusfauxDeusfaux Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Reports say it should be higher than a 8800, but not double or 300W....

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  • RookRook Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Deusfaux wrote: »
    slash000 wrote: »
    Needs its own external power plug, like the last line of Voodoos did, indeed

    No it doesnt. It needs 2 PCI-e power plugs, but that's no different from nvidia's 8800.


    Now, take this with a huge grain of salt.

    But I read on the inquirer that it'd be using a proprietary plug for one of the power adapters, as well as a PCIe adapter. And if you used two PCIe adapters with a converter you wouldn't have access to the overclocking options.

    Of course, standard disclaimer, it's the inquirer, huge grains of salt yadda yadda.

    (I ended up giving in and buying an 8800GTS, I'd love to be an ATI fanboy, but seriously, drop the fucking ball much?)

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  • DeusfauxDeusfaux Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    the inquirer is a piece of shit.


    but to address what you're saying, there's (on the XTX version, possibly not the XT, and definititely not the lower end versions)

    an 8pin and a 6 pin PCI-e power jack.

    for reference, the 8800 has 2 6 pin PCI-e

    8 pin is not proprietary, just a newer standard not really seen before now.

    You can use two 6 pin plugs if you want (leaving 2 holes empty on the 8 pin jack, and yeah you might lose the ATI-controlled overclocking ability (could probably still overclock it manually)

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  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    So there's no word on any of the rest of the R600 line?

    What about the GeForce 8 line? How much power will the 8600s pull, I wonder?

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  • capable heartcapable heart Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Well, I did hear about the PCI-E power connector going to 8-pin instead of its current 6-pin design, but I hadn't heard that the R600 thing was doing that. Might as well get that jump out the way, too, the rest of it's taking bloody well long enough. Are they going dual HDMI, too? lol

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  • RookRook Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Deusfaux wrote: »
    the inquirer is a piece of shit.

    But surprisingly accurate at times.

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  • capable heartcapable heart Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Rook wrote: »
    Deusfaux wrote: »
    the inquirer is a piece of shit.

    But surprisingly accurate at times.

    Yeah, but the reason that is, is that they simply shovel out so much stuff, that by pure statistical chance of it some stuff has to be true. It's not demonstrably from some special insight-ability.

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  • DeusfauxDeusfaux Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Rook wrote: »
    Deusfaux wrote: »
    the inquirer is a piece of shit.

    But surprisingly accurate at times.


    I think when you make so many random guesses so often, you're bound to be right just according to probability rules


    edit: lol, beat'd

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Personally, I don't give a shit if AMD's top card consumes 1.21 jiggawatts and requires a separate 4U rackmount. The top card a company makes is solely for bragging rights over the other company anyway. I care about whether AMD's $200-ish card will be better than nVidia's upcoming $200-ish card.

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  • DeusfauxDeusfaux Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Solely for bragging rights eh?

    Yeah, try pushing a 24" (or 30" in my case, 77% more pixels) display with decent settings and an acceptable framerate with your $200-ish card

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Deusfaux wrote: »
    Solely for bragging rights eh?

    Yeah, try pushing a 24" (or 30" in my case, 77% more pixels) display with decent settings and an acceptable framerate with your $200-ish card

    You're bragging.

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  • LavaKnightLavaKnight Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Is this the card that competes with Nvidia's 8800 line?

    300W is ridiculous. I was pretty much waiting for the midline 8800 card priced at $200 before I upgraded, but I at least wanted to see what ATI had up their sleeve. This was not so much up their sleeve as under their entire jacket.

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