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Missing Backpack

Penguin_OtakuPenguin_Otaku Registered User regular
edited March 2012 in Help / Advice Forum
So yesterday right around 5 When I was going to my friend's place I noticed my backpack missing. It contained a few things but most importantly my MacBook pro that I use to freelance and make extra money with as well as for school work.

I was just able to call my school and check the building's lost and found to no avail.

I've traced my steps back to my friends' places over the day and it's not there.

I have no idea where it went. The apartment was locked when I left at any point.

Here's the other thing. I've complained plenty about a sketchy fellow that lives with me to my apartment complex. Him and his suitemate are just odd people. One the other day complained about not having enough money for rent this month... Though not the one that's normally flighty.

Just yesterday I went to my apartment complex and talked to the manager directly about my issues with my roommate stealing little things (kitchen things) and that I feared it would be something bigger next.

So here I am. I'm not sure what to do. Do I call the police and report it missing or stolen? I'd hate for it to turn up and some point after I accuse these assholes of stealing it.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    You can file a report.

    Also why do you live with people you find sketchy? School apartments? Do you have renter's insurance (if you don't, get some now in case this happens in the future).

    If this is a dorm-esque apartment with other suite-mates, you can usually claim this shit against your parent's homeowners/renters policies (check).

    Get a new lock, too. To file with your insurance(s) you'll probably need a police report so it doesn't hurt to call their non-emergency line.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • Penguin_OtakuPenguin_Otaku Registered User regular
    They're apartments near campus I moved into thinking my buddies would too but I go the short end of the stick and stuck with these randos.

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    I'm confused. Did the apartment complex make you live with these roomates? Cause I'm not sure what complaining to them actually accomplishes.

    I'm not sure if this would be covered under renters insurance since there's no proof that they stole it and you didn't just loose it somewhere. It would be your word agaisnt theirs. You might be SOL.

  • Penguin_OtakuPenguin_Otaku Registered User regular
    I've plenty of emails and visits with the apartment complex about him stealing items before.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    Do you not have police where you live? You do know that when people steal things, you would typically go to the police, right?
    Also, your renters insurance should cover this. Do you have renters insurance?

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  • Penguin_OtakuPenguin_Otaku Registered User regular
    Yes, but like I said before I can't prove it was stolen is the only thing.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    Yes, but like I said before I can't prove it was stolen is the only thing.

    What? To file a claim insurance just needs a police report number. Have you filed a police report?

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    When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
    'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
  • Penguin_OtakuPenguin_Otaku Registered User regular
    Yes, but like I said before I can't prove it was stolen is the only thing.

    Also, yes I have renters but just started the policy this week (thankfully) but am unsure how that will look.

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  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    I've plenty of emails and visits with the apartment complex about him stealing items before.

    Why is it the complex's responsibility? Are you all on seperate leases and in seperate units, or are you sharing a suite?

  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Do you have it?

    If the answer is no, it's stolen. Or may as well be. Anything else that was with it make note of. Bag, pens, blue tooth stuff, chargers, whatever. Make sure to include that in the renters/home owners claim. Many home owners insurances do cover college dorms/apartments as well. I'm assuming you're not paying out of pocket to rent but it's being taken care of by your school? That would explain why you've been hodgepodged into a suite with people you don't know.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Yes, but like I said before I can't prove it was stolen is the only thing.

    Also, yes I have renters but just started the policy this week (thankfully) but am unsure how that will look.

    That's why you have it. If they raise a concern about it that's why you got the police report.

    Do you have a receipt for the macbook? Did you order it on a credit card (or did your parents?) The credit card offers theft insurance on stuff too (usually), so another avenue you may want to consider.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • Penguin_OtakuPenguin_Otaku Registered User regular
    Deebaser wrote: »
    I've plenty of emails and visits with the apartment complex about him stealing items before.

    Why is it the complex's responsibility? Are you all on seperate leases and in seperate units, or are you sharing a suite?

    Separate, but it's a trail of him doing it before.

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Deebaser wrote: »
    I've plenty of emails and visits with the apartment complex about him stealing items before.

    Why is it the complex's responsibility? Are you all on seperate leases and in seperate units, or are you sharing a suite?

    Separate, but it's a trail of him doing it before.

    I'm still confused. Is this like student housing where you have a central communal space and bedrooms that lock?

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  • Penguin_OtakuPenguin_Otaku Registered User regular
    Correct. But often I leave things in the common area because I effin live there. I always make sure to lock the doors and everything when I can.

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    Correct. But often I leave things in the common area because I effin live there. I always make sure to lock the doors and everything when I can.

    And you DEFINITELY brought your backpack home with you?

    Talk to student housing and move out. Also, don't leave expensive things in communal areas anymore, especially when you think your roommates are stealing things from you already. Strangers are strangers.

    Have you checked Craigslist and local pawn shops?

  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    edited March 2012
    You need to file a police report right now, and don't even think about it. If this person has stole from you before, it's a pretty obvious pattern of behavior. With the police report, you can then file an insurance claim and get the laptop replaced. He may never get in trouble, but you'll at least get your laptop back. And you'll have learned a valuable lesson about leaving expensive things around people you don't trust.

    e: Also, screw the Sooners...Hook 'em baby! (I went to UT :P)

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Yeah cut and dry there, if you lost it you lost it, but you probably didn't lose it.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    And don't worry about "proof it was stolen." What does that mean? A broken window? Watching someone run off with it? You had it. Now you don't. This is what insurance is for.

    File a police report now, because I'm sure time is ticking for insurance purposes.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Hell the emails are proof enough.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • Penguin_OtakuPenguin_Otaku Registered User regular
    I went and filed a police report. The roommate was there when the officer came and he questioned him with me there.

    His story was really sporadic and didn't make sense, cop saw it. He kept offering him the chance to just give me the laptop back and that would be that. Kept denying having anything to do with it.

    Anyway, cop tells me he thinks my roommate is full of shit but has nothing else to go on.

    So I left and went to clear my head, came back to the apartment and there is my backpack with my laptop in there, unharmed.

    I'm thankful to say the least, but I want this guy out of here. It's been too much of a stress living with this asshole.

    Is this enough to implicate him and get him out? The apartment complex has said that they can't do anything without a police report.

    Well here's the police report with him as the suspect, but now that it's shown up (thankfully) there's nothing really linking him to it...

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  • FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    Call the officer back and tell him you've got the laptop now. I'm sure he'll be very interested to know that it just "turned up" out of nowhere.

    The CSI-watcher in me wants to say they can just dust it for prints, but I don't know how viable that is. The pack probably not. The laptop? That should be full of prints. Doesn't sound like your roommate is smart enough to avoid it.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    If they can't remove him, remove yourself. Have them find you a new room.
    Yes, moving will be a hassle. No, you didn't do anything wrong. But seriously, staying there on principal is just stupid. Pack your shit and have them find you a new space.

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    wrote:
    When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
    'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Yeah, find a new space NOW. It's obvious he took it, and it's obvious he is shady as fuck. Keep everything valuable you own locked up, and watch out for reprisal. Shady people don't like it when the cops get called on them.

    Definitely call the officer back and explain how the laptop just magically turned up after the police were involved. Also, take the police report and final details to the apartment management. If this is school approved housing, go to your schools housing authority (usually part of the enrollment office) and talk to them as well. Worst case, they can quickly find you new housing.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    8-> Your suitemate is a magician maybe?

    Do what those fellas have said.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    The dude returned the laptop, he knows you know he took it, drop the stolen aspect and let that be. No harm, no foul and the guy obviously has a conscience of some sort.

    But do everything you can to either get him out, or leave yourself.

  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    I disagree no harm no foul. There is harm, he's completely destroyed the OP's sense of safety in his living space. Not only that, who knows how safe it is to live with a guy who knows you just called the cops on him? I wouldn't feel comfortable with that.

    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    Veevee wrote: »
    The dude returned the laptop, he knows you know he took it, drop the stolen aspect and let that be. No harm, no foul and the guy obviously has a conscience of some sort.

    It has nothing to do with a conscience. He was afraid the cops would come back with a warrant to search his room, maybe. Probably wasn't going to happen, but this goose got spooked when the cops showed up. That doesn't mean he has a conscience.

    Know how I can tell? He stole his roommate's laptop.

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  • TheKoolEagleTheKoolEagle Registered User regular
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    I disagree no harm no foul. There is harm, he's completely destroyed the OP's sense of safety in his living space. Not only that, who knows how safe it is to live with a guy who knows you just called the cops on him? I wouldn't feel comfortable with that.

    I agree with this, the only reason it was returned is because the guy went 'oh shit the cop totally thinks i did it'. Its ridiculous that someone can nonchalantly take someones backpack containing their computer and not think anything of it until he is questioned by a cop, what do you think is going to happen!?

    I think that right there is enough proof that you can tell your landlord you need to move or get him kicked out of the building. Although personally I would want to move so that douchebag doesn't know where I live

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  • EgoEgo Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Time to move out. Glad to hear you got your laptop back.

    Ego on
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  • DraygoDraygo Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    At this point you could press charges if you wanted. It would be a hassle but you would probably be doing everyone but him a favor.

    Lets put it this way, you cant 'borrow' things from people and return them later without permission. I cant just go to a random parking lot, jack a car drive it around for 3 days, then 'return' it to the parking spot as if it never moved. Thats still theft. A cop picking him up, putting him in a squad car, and taking him over to the police station, questioning him for 2 hours will probably elicit a confession. You know he did it, the cop knows he did it, its just a matter of getting proof that would work infront of a jury if the guy decides to contest the charge.

    Consider it kinda like a locked room problem. During the time you left the house, did you lock it? Did anyone else enter? No? So he was the only one in the house when the laptop reappared? Really? Well duh. So some random guy that stole your laptop, broke back into your house to return it?

    On the other hand, if you do press charges, the police will probably want your laptop for evidence for a while so you would have to be prepared to go without it for a while.

    Draygo on
  • Penguin_OtakuPenguin_Otaku Registered User regular
    If I have to go without my laptop for a while then probably not gonna happen. I do some work on this bad boy.

    Can't say how thankful I am, thank you guys. Not sure why my first response wasn't to call the cops.

    I'm definitely taking the police report to the apartment complex to hopefully get out of my lease so I can get the hell out of here, or in the least get him the fuck out.

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Also stop leaving shit you value in a common area.

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