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Metastasis, a [mini-Phalla] - Game Over. Mafia Victory.

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  • BedlamBedlam Registered User regular
    Cyth was going to attack me and then I was going to boost him with my power. I never really said I was a rac1 because before the game people were saying we should kill all rac1's on sight because of their potential to be convereted. Which was obviously a bad idea since controling them seemed to be the entire win condition (instead of the normal deafeat/outnumber WCs)

  • tzeentchlingtzeentchling Doctor of Rocks OaklandRegistered User regular
    Bah! Obifett, to think I trusted you! My soft network was shot from the beginning.

  • BaidolBaidol I will hold him off Escape while you canRegistered User regular
    edited March 2012
    ObiFett wrote: »
    Baidol, did you guys target Assuran and tzeentchling for the mass attacks at the end because I was networked with them?

    Actually, they were at the lower end of who I found suspicious, which is why I let them at the mercy of the mob instead of designate my army of hitmen to take them out.

    Baidol on
    Steam Overwatch: Baidol#1957
  • BaidolBaidol I will hold him off Escape while you canRegistered User regular
    Taya wrote: »
    The moral here is always kill SLyM, even if he is a confirmed good guy.

    We did try to kill SLyM.

    Just, not enough.

    Steam Overwatch: Baidol#1957
  • GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    Damn.

  • BaidolBaidol I will hold him off Escape while you canRegistered User regular
    Also, having an army of hitmen is pretty damn cool.

    Steam Overwatch: Baidol#1957
  • KetBraKetBra Dressed Ridiculously Registered User regular
    Hey Retaba, we should totally swap avatars for a phalla, sometime.

    Mass confusion!

    KGMvDLc.jpg?1
  • RetabaRetaba A Cultist Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Hahaha, I would do this! Of course we both could use the same avater, it would be harder to just glance even once you realize they were switched.

    Retaba on
  • TayaTaya Registered User regular
    Retaba is Retaba. KetBra is Corpse. Easy to tell them apart!

  • ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    Bah! Obifett, to think I trusted you! My soft network was shot from the beginning.

    Yeah, sorry about that. :P Same goes for you, Assuran.

    But if I was going to be a cancer, I decided I might as well start spreading as fast as possible.

  • BedlamBedlam Registered User regular
    Taya wrote: »
    Retaba is Retaba. KetBra is Corpse. Easy to tell them apart!
    Reteba is a dead like me reaper? Whats Corpse? Like his thing is actually a thing and not some made up thing?

  • BaidolBaidol I will hold him off Escape while you canRegistered User regular
    ObiFett wrote: »
    Bah! Obifett, to think I trusted you! My soft network was shot from the beginning.

    Yeah, sorry about that. :P Same goes for you, Assuran.

    But if I was going to be a cancer, I decided I might as well start spreading as fast as possible.

    Which was the correct call.

    You had a pretty good alibi for Vertroue's death.

    Just, the number of deaths each day did not add up.

    Steam Overwatch: Baidol#1957
  • GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    Thanks for running the game, MrT. If you want feedback on the mechanic...I guess I'd have to say that while it was an interesting change of pace for a mini, I feel like it's a little gimmicky and really only especially fun for people who take it upon themselves to play the big logic game like Baidol and Phyphor did. I would not be very enthusiastic about a main using it. But that's just me.

  • RetabaRetaba A Cultist Registered User regular
    Bedlam wrote: »
    Taya wrote: »
    Retaba is Retaba. KetBra is Corpse. Easy to tell them apart!
    Reteba is a dead like me reaper? Whats Corpse? Like his thing is actually a thing and not some made up thing?
    Actually, it is related to Twin Peaks. But Dead Like Me was also a good show :)

  • ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Baidol wrote: »
    ObiFett wrote: »
    Bah! Obifett, to think I trusted you! My soft network was shot from the beginning.

    Yeah, sorry about that. :P Same goes for you, Assuran.

    But if I was going to be a cancer, I decided I might as well start spreading as fast as possible.

    Which was the correct call.

    You had a pretty good alibi for Vertroue's death.

    Just, the number of deaths each day did not add up.

    After it was established to the village that the Doctor was real and orders were going to start piling into you, I knew even the best alibi's wouldn't be good enough. There was going to be just too much evidence pointing at me.

    But I had done the best I could to muddy up that evidence.

    ObiFett on
  • KetBraKetBra Dressed Ridiculously Registered User regular
    Bedlam wrote: »
    Taya wrote: »
    Retaba is Retaba. KetBra is Corpse. Easy to tell them apart!
    Reteba is a dead like me reaper? Whats Corpse? Like his thing is actually a thing and not some made up thing?

    I was CorpseRT until the latest forum change.

    KGMvDLc.jpg?1
  • BedlamBedlam Registered User regular
    Retaba wrote: »
    Bedlam wrote: »
    Taya wrote: »
    Retaba is Retaba. KetBra is Corpse. Easy to tell them apart!
    Reteba is a dead like me reaper? Whats Corpse? Like his thing is actually a thing and not some made up thing?
    Actually, it is related to Twin Peaks. But Dead Like Me was also a good show :)
    Huh. Ive always just associciated your avatar in my head with this picture:

    DeadLikeMe-poster.jpg

    Even though its obviously not the same thing.

  • tzeentchlingtzeentchling Doctor of Rocks OaklandRegistered User regular
    Gaslight wrote: »
    Thanks for running the game, MrT. If you want feedback on the mechanic...I guess I'd have to say that while it was an interesting change of pace for a mini, I feel like it's a little gimmicky and really only especially fun for people who take it upon themselves to play the big logic game like Baidol and Phyphor did. I would not be very enthusiastic about a main using it. But that's just me.

    I think I agree with this. I felt like I might have been putting something together there for a while, but really I didn't have a clue what I was doing. And I wasn't really sure how to handle the win condition and such. Having to kill the mafia while also keeping an unspecified number of people alive, with the mafia able to convert players, made it very difficult to really think we were doing well. Not having results really from each night either threw me off my game.

  • ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    It might just be my perspective from the mafia side combined with my newness in general to phallas, but I liked the mechanic. I like the idea of everyone having something to do and the logic side of it. The only way it will work in the future, however, is for the mafia to have power types that the village has no idea what they do. Otherwise it might be a little easy for the village to "figure out" the puzzle of best attack orders.

  • BaidolBaidol I will hold him off Escape while you canRegistered User regular
    I am going to think about it for a bit before I give my opinion on the game.

    My perspective is colored by the fact that by Day 3, I either knew or had a good guess on all of the mechanics in the game and had basically all information everywhere on Day 4.

    Steam Overwatch: Baidol#1957
  • ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    We should have killed you day two.

  • BaidolBaidol I will hold him off Escape while you canRegistered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Yes.

    Day 3 was too late, because of regeneration. Day 4 I had back-ups in line for my expected death.

    Admittedly, I was not a threat until the good Doctor decided to make me one.

    Baidol on
    Steam Overwatch: Baidol#1957
  • GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    ObiFett wrote: »
    The only way it will work in the future, however, is for the mafia to have power types that the village has no idea what they do. Otherwise it might be a little easy for the village to "figure out" the puzzle of best attack orders.

    Well, that's basically what happened. The village would have won thanks to Baidol, except there was no way he could know the critical piece of information that the mafia had guards besides proteins.

  • ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    Exactly. So if it is used in the future, there will have to be a new power for the mafia that makes it hard for the village to figure out. It can't be guards next time.

  • BaidolBaidol I will hold him off Escape while you canRegistered User regular
    We should also be giving Phyphor due credit for his role in tracking down the mafia scum.

    Steam Overwatch: Baidol#1957
  • sportzboytjwsportzboytjw squeeeeeezzeeee some more tax breaks outRegistered User regular
    The mechanics felt like they'd be fun to play through a second/third/whatever time (with tweaks/minor changes to keep everyone frosty), so they're probably work for Mask. Otherwise, this was one of those that felt like a bit of a cluster the first time.

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  • MrTLiciousMrTLicious Registered User regular
    MrTLicious wrote:
    Ouch, non protein guards for the mafia? That feels extreme.

    Well, every villager was also a vig/seer... Both sides were pretty powerful :)

    In a way yes.

    I would have preferred the game if the mafia didn't have a pool of powers (especially guards) and the village also had no special(s) or means by which to call a kill/establish a network head.

    This is how I originally envisioned the game, but I couldn't find a way to balance it. It always ended up being pretty much the same mechanic as dani's Archer phalla. This is how I eventually did it, but even here I think the mafia were slightly underpowered. I didn't think about necessitating 2 kills to nab a mafia, though, as Phyphor suggested at game start.

  • GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    I am still hopeful for a second try at the Archer phalla, if Dani and any of her accomplices can find a way to tweak the balance to their satisfaction. Reading that game was what got me to sign up for my first phalla the next time around.

    (Speaking of which, we are now without a main or mini, with over a week until the theoretical start date of Munkus' game!)

    Gaslight on
  • stever777stever777 AFK most Saturdays Registered User regular
    OK. Host lied to me. O_o

    I was told I couldn't be converted as the last RAC1.
    MrT!!!!!

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  • ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    I think that was probably to prevent you from defecting and guaranteeing yourself a win by going over to mafia.

    You couldn't be converted, you could only die and lose the game. ???

  • BaidolBaidol I will hold him off Escape while you canRegistered User regular
    Well, I would like to see a screenshot of the offending PM before assuming stever interpreted the PM correctly and making conclusions based on that.

    Steam Overwatch: Baidol#1957
  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    So the mafia had one of the proteins give themselves directly to them on day 1, the village voted two more off, I'd be surprised if even half the village followed my plan and we still were one miscalculation from winning? Not too bad really

  • vertrouevertroue I am Female Totes Not a SithRegistered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Lol I was right on Obi. heheh

    and sorry all about today, I have not slept in um 36 hours or so and I was really tired earlier. I had a feeling that obi was mafia from day 2 when out of everyone I ate him. Sure the mechanics are odd and a cancer could have eaten me therefore killing me or something, but I still believed he was mafia...

    Anyway interesting game Mr.T

    vertroue on
    Blood and Fire
    From the Desk of Darth Vertroue Diplomat to the USA.
  • ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    About the stever777 PM.

    Wouldn't that also be odd on its own? If you are the last RAC1, the mafia need a critical mass of RAC1s, and you couldn't be converted. At that point either the mafia have won or its impossible for them to win. Because either they have all the RAC1s to win, or they can't get them because the last RAC1 would be unconvertable.

  • ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    And yes, Vert, you were very very right.

    I even posted on the proboards that I felt bad for you when that whole dialog was going on. :)

  • vertrouevertroue I am Female Totes Not a SithRegistered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Lol obi, it was funny I posted to gaslight before Bai took over saying I wish I was not going to die...and that I honestly thought you were mafia for how you were acting/posting.

    vertroue on
    Blood and Fire
    From the Desk of Darth Vertroue Diplomat to the USA.
  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    The mechanics felt like they'd be fun to play through a second/third/whatever time (with tweaks/minor changes to keep everyone frosty), so they're probably work for Mask. Otherwise, this was one of those that felt like a bit of a cluster the first time.

    The only thing to keep in mind is that these type of mechanics scale. If I had 50 or 60 people, my plan actually gets much better and is just as easy, so the village would still have narrowed everything down 3-4 days in, but if the mafia couldn't win for 5-6 days, you'd be toast

  • AssuranAssuran Is swinging on the Spiral Registered User regular
    Gaslight wrote: »
    Maybe I'm nuts but isn't Assuran female?

    I'm a guy.

    I also got super played this game. Good work Obi. I should have checked you like I was planning day 2.

  • CythraulCythraul Registered User regular
    Fun and interesting concept with this game. It might be due to working too much or just generally not paying attention, but I wasn't aware that elimination of the rac1 would mean mafia wins. I'd suggest pointing out that as part of the village VC we'd need to protect rac1. Seriously, we were happy that Bedlam died as one. Otherwise I liked the concept and look forward to seeing what you do with it in Majora's!

    Steam
    Confusion will be my epitaph
  • ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Assuran wrote: »
    Gaslight wrote: »
    Maybe I'm nuts but isn't Assuran female?

    I'm a guy.

    I also got super played this game. Good work Obi. I should have checked you like I was planning day 2.
    Thanks. Halfway through this game, I just kept thinking how many people would never trust me after it was all revealed. yay for grudges?

    I think day two I had two guards on me so I wouldn't have died had you tested me, but man would you have had some good evidence on me when you came back.

    ObiFett on
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