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Labor Laws - Florida State, On-Call

ZyreZyre Registered User regular
edited April 2012 in Help / Advice Forum
I work for my employer 40hrs/wk regularly. On my days off I am On-Call, meaning if someone calls off for a shift I have to come in.

I have a couple of questions. First, is it legal for employer to mandate that I be on call during all of my time off? Second, if I'm on-call, but don't get called in, shouldn't I be getting paid to be on call?

I do get on-call pay when I am called in, which is more than my regular. I've never worked for an employer set up like this before, typically my previous employers have flex people or special response people, that are on call all the time, that's their job, to cover for people. But my current employer does not have these positions. Everyone in the office is on call on their days off.

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    do you get a salary?

    If you do, then that's that.

    If not, then you should be paid whenever you have to field calls and do stuff.

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  • The Crowing OneThe Crowing One Registered User regular
    The questions are somewhat moot, Zyre, as Florida is a Right-to-Work state. This means that you can, essentially, be fired for any reason (often secondary if the real issue is protected) without too much concern over a worker retaliating or receiving justice.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    It really depends on the circumstances of the on call status @Zyre. What are their requirements, are you hourly, etc.

    This goes beyond state and actually can be in violation of the FLSA if they're doing certain things and not compensating you for it. If you can, give more information.

    How far away are you allowed to go on call, can you travel a half hour to see your friends?
    Can you give 4 hours to see a movie and dinner or are you expected to answer immediately, or something along those lines?
    Are you expected to work from the phone or just show up at work?
    Are you expected to drop everything and go to work while on call?
    How often are you actually called? (is this frequent?)

    Generally if you're expected to drop whatever you're doing and show up at work, even if you almost never get called, you can't utilize your own free time and are supposed to be paid. If you have to take phone calls like a support person while on call, for instance, is another thing too.

    You may want to talk to a lawyer.

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  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Jasconius wrote: »
    do you get a salary?

    If you do, then that's that.

    If not, then you should be paid whenever you have to field calls and do stuff.

    Not quite right. Most of my company's DBA's and IT techs are salaried (often high salaried), but they get overtime for On-Call time if they actually work, though most have rotations.

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  • EncEnc A Fool with Compassion Pronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered User regular
    The questions are somewhat moot, Zyre, as Florida is a Right-to-Work state. This means that you can, essentially, be fired for any reason (often secondary if the real issue is protected) without too much concern over a worker retaliating or receiving justice.

    Ultimately, this is the main concern for your questions. All too often there are thing that are incorrect legally in this sort of thing but you have to ask yourself if bringing it up is worth immediate termination.

    Because in Florida that is usually the resolution for calling your employer on it.

  • RuckusRuckus Registered User regular
    schuss wrote: »
    Jasconius wrote: »
    do you get a salary?

    If you do, then that's that.

    If not, then you should be paid whenever you have to field calls and do stuff.

    Not quite right. Most of my company's DBA's and IT techs are salaried (often high salaried), but they get overtime for On-Call time if they actually work, though most have rotations.

    "Salaried" means different things in different jurisdictions.

    In the province of Manitoba, unless your contract includes a set number of hours, then your "Salary" entitles the company to 40 hours of your time per week, no more than 8 hours per day. If they have you work more than 8 hours in a day or 40 hours in a week, the additional hours have to be calculated as 1.5 times your hourly wage (as calculated by dividing your annual salary by 2080 (52 weeks x 40 hours a week)).

    Additionally, if your contract were specified to included a certain amount of overtime, eg for example the contract specifically stated ten hours per day and fifty hours per week, your employer could then ask you to work those hours without additional compensation, but anything over the specified hours would be 1.5x your hourly wage.

    Further, Manitoba has the option of time in lieu, where instead of the company paying out your overtime wages, giving you equivalent time off, but remember, overtime is 1.5x regular wage, so the time off is also 1.5x. If I work 11 hours, that's 8 hours of regular time and 3 hours of overtime, I'm entitled to 4.5 hours of payed time off in lieu of wages.

  • The Crowing OneThe Crowing One Registered User regular
    Enc wrote: »
    The questions are somewhat moot, Zyre, as Florida is a Right-to-Work state. This means that you can, essentially, be fired for any reason (often secondary if the real issue is protected) without too much concern over a worker retaliating or receiving justice.

    Ultimately, this is the main concern for your questions. All too often there are thing that are incorrect legally in this sort of thing but you have to ask yourself if bringing it up is worth immediate termination.

    Because in Florida that is usually the resolution for calling your employer on it.

    This. This.

    And man, @Zyre, that really blows. I work a job where I'm expected to be somewhat available 24/7 (and a good deal of my time is after business hours or on weekends, but my company certainly doesn't expect me to jump when they say "jump". I'd, honestly, be tempted to answer a call-in like that by telling them I'm blackout drunk*.

    *Don't do this.

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  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    Sounds to me like you work for a company that is more concerned with the bottom line than the health and well being of their employees. While there may be nothing you can legally do about it, I encourage you to find another job. That can be daunting in the current job market, but it sounds to me like it's worth it in your case. Obviously be discrete, but I'd start looking. That's not a healthy long term work environment.

    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • The Crowing OneThe Crowing One Registered User regular
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    Sounds to me like you work for a company that is more concerned with the bottom line than the health and well being of their employees. While there may be nothing you can legally do about it, I encourage you to find another job. That can be daunting in the current job market, but it sounds to me like it's worth it in your case. Obviously be discrete, but I'd start looking. That's not a healthy long term work environment.

    It really depends on the type of work. Something like this is, to my understanding, not always strange for say, a registered nurse. The specifics seem pretty out-there, but if this is a retail job (or service of any kind) I'd find it really fishy.

    @Zyre, It may be a call to start discretely looking for another employer.

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  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Even nurses don't generally have "always on-call" setups. My aunt is a nurse, and she is part of an on-call rotation. She's know weeks ahead of time when she's going to be on-call, and it's never for more than a week. This gives her plenty of time to plan her personal life around that one week in eight that she'll be on rotation.

    e: In the interest of full disclosure, there are times that rotation is bypassed, but those times are clearly laid out in the employee guidelines, and are things like "natural/man made disaster, causing an overflow of patients that can't be handled with regular staff".

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    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Yeah on call is usually a few days at the most and a huge amount of rotational time. The OP's on call status, like I said, probably violates federal labor laws (FLSA) and he likely should talk to a lawyer. If he can't have a social life without more than a week or two between the on call status, it likely needs to be compensated at OT rates.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • The Crowing OneThe Crowing One Registered User regular
    Oh yeah, I agree. The whole situation pretty much blows. The best advice I can muster is to look for another job.

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