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Nintendo saying NO! to 3rd party online play in 2007?
Lord Jezo
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Did everyone read this from Wired?
SNK is saying:
"Nintendo is still not letting Wii third-party publishers include online capabilities in their games and it doesn't look like they will during 2007."
This is no good at all. Maybe he's just full of it, but if not, then that's a big strike against the Wii. Sadness?
SNK is saying:
"Nintendo is still not letting Wii third-party publishers include online capabilities in their games and it doesn't look like they will during 2007."
This is no good at all. Maybe he's just full of it, but if not, then that's a big strike against the Wii. Sadness?
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Wii Code: 1040-1320-0724-3613 :!!:
No.
You know what? Some of us have girlfriends who won't let our friends in our aparment 'cause "they smell wierd" or "he looks at me all funny". Online play is our only salvation.
1. Letting third-parties create a messy hodge-podge of online connectivity issues, or
2. Trying to create a unified online system to streamline everything, but taking way too damn long to do it.
If Nintendo's doing the latter as seems the case, they need to hurry the hell up.
This is false.
And dumb.
But, of course, the internet will explode with 100 page topics on how Nintendo fails for not putting every single cent they have into catering to a niche and then in then end when the games do have online play everyone will still find a way.
Go to smelly, weird looking guy's apartment instead. I doubt he has a girlfriend.
ie. If this was true, then i'd be happy regardless.
Messing with online kits at work are we?
MAYBE
nothing official from nintendo, so I suppose they could still say no, but we got something of our own going.
I was under the impression Wii online stuff was going to work exactly like DS online stuff does.
Nevertheless I still think SNK is full of shit.
All the sources of this "interview" point to SPOnG...
Not to derail the topic at all, but on a sidenote it's really irritating how a bunch of games that WOULD be really fun in multiplayer/coop on the same console don't have the feature, but instead have online coop/multiplayer. Motorstorm and Crackdown immediately come to mind and in Crackdown's case it was a dealbreaker. The rumour that dead rising (platinum edition) will have coop is rad, but that's presumably online only too.
I think lots of people will be disapointed.
Without a shitty tethering system in place (which would suck for Crackdown) you're going to be pushing the hardware of a single box damn hard to keep up with everything that both players can do at once. If both start using explosives far away from each other the physics would quickly go to shit.
If online play actually works in a functional way, allowing play with others on my friends list, then they will have done a great job. Anything else is excess/extra.
Also, it's March and they're making a projection about what they say Nintendo's going to do for the whole rest of the year. It just reeks of bullshit.
I think when this becomes a problem, we've reached the point at which games are pushing the consoles too hard. Gameplay shouldn't be sacrificed for graphics. Maybe they could have lowered the viewing distance for local co-op or something.
TEXT: http://blogs.mercurynews.com/aei/2007/02/dice_interview_with_nintendo_of_america_president_reggie_fils-aime_.html
PODCAST: http://blogs.mercurynews.com/aei/2007/02/audio_podcast_of_interview_reggie_fils-aime_posted.html
Exactly, I wasn't meaning that it would be anywhere near as robust as Live is right now, just that it would be Nintendo's vision of online gaming, which we know is keep it simple, easy to use, and easy on the eyes. Nintendo probably took it in their best interest to hold up developers initially until they got their ducks in a row.
Wii Code: 1040-1320-0724-3613 :!!:
Nintendo apologist of the week!
Sometimes people like you are embarassing to share this forum with, you are wedged so fucking far up Nintendo's ass.
Nintendo dragging their feet in regards to online play is inexusable this late in the game. They've dug new Pacific trenches they've been dragging so long.
For the hardcore gaming nerd?
Yes.
For everyone else?
No.
Come to think of it, what percentage of 360 owners subscribe to Live Gold? Yes, we know a hefty percentage of 360 folks USE online in the same way a hefty percentage of Wii owners use online, but I want to know how many people pony up to play games.
Quit hiding behind Nintendo's blue ocean strategy you Nintendo Apologist!
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The adoption rate for Live on the original Xbox was about 1% or less, but I don't know how that would factor into this little debate.
Yeah, 2 million+ Live subscribers are all hardcore gaming nerds.
Fuck its like groupthink with you retards.
Its 2007 and Nintendo is still pushing lame ass kindergarten level online play with things like system friend codes.
How many of thse "Live Suscribers" actually , you know, play games online?
Since Microsoft counts every Xbox that has ever connected to the interent, for any reason, as a "Live Suscriber" the numbers are inflated
Online multiplayetr is a niche, it will be a niche for the foreseeable future*.
*With the exception of games that require online, AKA MMOs
So that's what that smell was. I had no idea. On a brighter note, I like sharing this forum with you. We need people like you to flip out about everything that they don't get now now now or more more more. Would you really have enjoyed Willy Wonka without that Veruca Salt chick? I think not!
Aaaaaanyway, as long as online is coming then I don't care about the wait. I can already download games from their online store, as well as play videos and music from my computer with their Internet browser. That's more than I ever could do before with my Nintendo systems. Just because your expectations aren't on key with Nintendo's doesn't mean I'm a shill.
It just means I play more BF2, Counterstrike, and City of Heroes until it shows up. No big deal.
So everyone breath with me, iiiiiiiiiiiiiin. Ooooouuuuuuut. Iiiiiiiiiiiiin. Oooooooouuut. Don't you feel calmer now?
Wii Code: 1040-1320-0724-3613 :!!:
Step back for a minute. Stop thinking about this like a gamer and start thinking about it like a business. Where's the incentive for Nintendo to roll out a Live-esque system? We know that Nintendo always sells their shit for a profit -- how much would that be affected by the costs involved with robust on-line play? Development costs, hardware costs, upkeep costs -- it all adds up. They've said (I believe) that they want their on-line play system to be free. As soon as we start talking about something as advanced as Live, that option goes out the window unless you want to take a hit on your profits to do it -- and as business, why would you? The fact of the matter is that there are a lot of people buying the Wii, and Nintendo is making a pretty decent penny out of it. Whether you want to believe it or not, on-line play has not become a deal breaker for a majority of the gaming public.
No. If for any reason you're a "shill", it's because you'll find a way to take one of the most valid criticisms against Nintendo and turn it into a criticism of those who want online play by mockingly suggesting they should be entirely satisfied with offline multi, which is somehow part of Nintendo's philosophy, which is Always Right™
My expectations are that Nintendo gets off their ass and develops an (ideally) innovative and comprehensive, yet typically easy-to-use and cohesive system for connecting users in an online space which serves multiple functions, especially gameplay.
These are the expectations of many other reasonable people, and have been in place for years now.
Now go polish up your Mario button and convince yourself everything's still alright.
to the fallacy sportin dude above me - I never said they should adopt a Live-esque system. No more friend codes =/= Implement something like Live now!
First, Xbox Live, world's preminium online service reached roughly about 12 percent of all users during lifespan of first Xbox. This number came directly from Microsoft, and there is no reason, whatsoever, to doubt its validity. Last June Microsoft told how extremely popular new Xbox Live had been. 5.3 million owners, 2.6 million accounts. Big number eh? But let's put that number into perspective....
1) 5.3 million isn't really that many consoles, and during this phase, console was bought mostly by previous console's core fans. Same core fans who were already active users of original Live service.
2) Microsoft didn't (naturally) tell division between type of accounts, probably because it was heavily tilting towards silver accounts. People register silver accounts, grab firmware updates, maybe few demos and that is. Furthermore if you had bought preminium package on march, you still had your 3 month limited Gold subscription. There is no info whatsoever how many people did actually renew these subscriptions.
3) After June, Microsoft hasn't been eager to tell Xbox Live numbers anymore. Probably because they are steadily going down percentage wise, as more casual players start to buy X360.
4) And before you guys start to explain you and your friends play actively on the Live, remember that you are currently posting on goddamn fucking hardcore gaming forum, have broadband connection and are very active net user. Not really what could be called "normal" gamer by any means.
Why should Nintendo throw money away to cater to a niche?
When they clearly want to make a profit, it makes no sence for them to throw away money to please a minority.
Sony and Microsoft are already bleeding money on their consoles, so what's a bit more money for online? Especially when all the journalists are part of this niche and as such adding it gives them a few extra sentances of praise in the magazines that, of course, cater to the niche.
Nintendo, however, can't afford to bleed money, so online is low priority.
How about first they make enough Wiis so that I dont have to wait in line at 6:00am 3 months after the release :P
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