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FractilionFractilion Registered User regular
edited April 2012 in Games and Technology
Good games come only once and a while. Therefore, most good games are spread out over a long period of time. As a result, I find myself playing games that are over 10 years old. Just because so much good stuff has already been made. If no new games ever came out, I would still have a lifetime of gaming to get through with what's already been made. I'm not necessarily saying all new games are bad, just that it's like sifting through piles of shit to find the gems. As a game tester, pretty much no XBox 360 games I have played I really liked. I'm just perplexed as to why so many people even bother with playing only new games exclusively. They're way more expensive and most of the time are just re-hash and going through the motions. You know what's better than Oblivion? Ultima VII. Bioshock? Go play System Shock. FFXIII? FFVI-IX.

Oh, and if you know of any new games that aren't crap, feel free to list them.

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  • subediisubedii Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Most games are bad. Most games from any era are bad.

    But to be honest, I'd say there are far more awesome games coming out these days than there were when I was a kid. There are few classics from my youth that I don't feel have been superseded by some later iteration on the concept, whether it's owing to better implementation of mechanics, better UI, or even simply a more involving visual implementation (it looks shinier, SHINIER! ).

    I don't go back and re-play games as much as I used to when I was younger. And I feel that's largely because there's more cool stuff coming out now and to look forward to still.

    I don't play as many blockbuster titles as most however, I tend to play a lot of the more indie stuff, since that's also where I find the guys willing to take on the more niche and cool concepts. I'd never expect a high budget rendition of Frozen Synapse, or Gemini Rue, but that doesn't matter to me because those games are awesome to me anyway, even without the massive budgets of major publisher titles.

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  • SoundsPlushSoundsPlush yup, back. Registered User regular
    subedii wrote: »
    But to be honest, I'd say there are far more awesome games coming out these days than there were when I was a kid.

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    A few years ago when I was cleaning a few old boxes of my junk out of my parents attic, I found a stack of old PC Gamers. Stuff from the mid to late 90s, covering the Voodoo2 - Voodoo3 era of 3D cards.

    flipping through some of them, did I find old gems? Sure.

    there was also a ton of junk

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  • anoffdayanoffday To be changed whenever Anoffday gets around to it. Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    I'm a big fan of older games, and while I play new games too I rarely ever buy a game at full price. I feel the same way you do. I have so many awesome older games I haven't played either on gog or in my personal collection that there's no point for me to spend big bucks on new games. I have plenty of stuff to play while I wait for the price to go down. I'm always adding old games to my collection too. Just yesterday I went to gamestop and picked up a few Gamecube titles since they're buy 2 get 1 free right now and they're on the way out.

    I do have a hard time sometimes getting into most 80s games. Some are just too basic for me. But 90s was an awesome decade full of awesome games and I'm always willing to try something new from it.

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  • JurgJurg In a TeacupRegistered User regular
    Not exactly. You mentioned Final Fantasy, and that series in particular is one in which old does not necessarily equal better. Each iteration shakes things up as much as a blockbuster series can feasibly shake. They may not always get it right, but they have some serious balls in an era dominated by sequels and clones. Say what you want about Final Fantasy XIII, but you can't in good faith suggest that they weren't trying something new.

    Now, it's true that some of their earlier games were better, but good luck getting a room of nerds to agree on which games those were.

    Branching out to just JRPGs, there are games coming out now that kick the ass of many old games. Persona 4 (2008) has, by far, the most well-developed cast of any JRPG I have played, and that is a huge portion of what people play the games for. The World Ends With You (2008) is crazy-innovative, and an aesthetic wonderland. That game obsessively throws out the old, and as a result is one of the greatest JRPGs ever made. It's certainly my favorite.

    You have to think of it like classic rock. There is a lot of good classic rock, but that's because people still listen to the stuff that's good. It's not that modern rock has lost its way (arguably, but there is still good stuff coming out)- it's that modern music doesn't have the advantage of a filter.

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  • FreiFrei A French Prometheus Unbound DeadwoodRegistered User regular
    This is a perfect example of nostalgia clouding judgment.

    Yeah, there's a ton of old games that I still play and love. There was also tons and tons of shit. Also, games were just as expensive back then as they are now.

    Now, there's also a lot of really good games that come out. There's also a lot of shit. Games are still just as expensive. This post just reads as weird video game elitism where someone makes reference to as many old games as possible to try to discredit new ones.

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  • GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    This is a silly thread.

  • anoffdayanoffday To be changed whenever Anoffday gets around to it. Registered User regular
    A few years ago when I was cleaning a few old boxes of my junk out of my parents attic, I found a stack of old PC Gamers. Stuff from the mid to late 90s, covering the Voodoo2 - Voodoo3 era of 3D cards.

    flipping through some of them, did I find old gems? Sure.

    there was also a ton of junk

    Hey don't blame the 90s for your past bad taste in games.

    I don't know if you were a kid back then but I know I missed out on some awesome SNES games the first time through because of my stupid kid self. Sure I played some of the good stuff, but I also missed out on games like Chrono Trigger the first time around, one of my favorite games, because I was busy playing Michael Jordan Chaos in the Windy City. :(

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  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Not > Really

  • MulletudeMulletude Registered User regular
    Fractilion wrote:
    Good games come only once and a while. Therefore, most good games are spread out over a long period of time. As a result, I find myself playing games that are over 10 years old. Just because so much good stuff has already been made. If no new games ever came out, I would still have a lifetime of gaming to get through with what's already been made. I'm not necessarily saying all new games are bad, just that it's like sifting through piles of shit to find the gems. As a game tester, pretty much no XBox 360 games I have played I really liked. I'm just perplexed as to why so many people even bother with playing only new games exclusively. They're way more expensive and most of the time are just re-hash and going through the motions. You know what's better than Oblivion? Ultima VII. Bioshock? Go play System Shock. FFXIII? FFVI-IX.

    Oh, and if you know of any new games that aren't crap, feel free to list them.

    The problem with this is that the idea of what games are good and what are crap is completely based on your own personal preference.

    New games that aren't crap? Looking at my library of Xbox 360 games...My opinion of course

    Alan Wake
    Battlefield 3
    Bioshock
    Dead Space 1 & 2
    Mass Effect 2 & 3
    Portal 2
    Orange Box
    etc...

    Game reviews AND much more importantly, good word of mouth(PA is great for this) is how I get through the majority of trash to find the games I know i'll enjoy.

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  • subediisubedii Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    He said he works as a tester. Which straight away colours your perception since whatever game you're testing, you are not playing normally. You are de-constructing it for all its worst aspects and trying to repeat bugs constantly and over-and-over again. And you don't often get to choose what you're testing. Burn-out can also be a factor here, if you're just playing too many games that you can't get excited over anything anymore.

    Put it another way, when I was forced to read through "classic" titles during English lit, which were inexpertly analysed by a bunch of 14 year olds for every fragging sentence and every minor and incredibly obvious plot element. And then essays written on those insipidly mundane plot elements that the original author would have probably despised you paying so much direct attention to for no good reason at the cost of the actual flow of the narrative. I wasn't able to enjoy jack all of what I read in that flipping class, only after it was all over could I come back years later and actually appreciate them. Or not, because sod Shakespeare and sod Hamlet.

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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    Gaslight wrote: »
    This is a silly thread.

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