I wish you couldn't ff ramps. it sucks that he can do that attack, it doesn't work, and T can't ... do anything, P just expands and techs and is pretty safe.
Terran could not cut scvs the way Taeja did. It was 26 probes to 24. Thats pretty unforgivable when you go reaper expand.
I don't understand what you mean, but he also had to pull up his ramp and throw down 2 bunkers really fast. when was he down? also what difference does it make when he can't mine from his nat because he's stuck up his ramp?
I wish you couldn't ff ramps. it sucks that he can do that attack, it doesn't work, and T can't ... do anything, P just expands and techs and is pretty safe.
Terran could not cut scvs the way Taeja did. It was 26 probes to 24. Thats pretty unforgivable when you go reaper expand.
I don't understand what you mean, but he also had to pull up his ramp and throw down 2 bunkers really fast. when was he down? also what difference does it make when he can't mine from his nat because he's stuck up his ramp?
Because then when he CAN mine from the nat, he has more scvs instead of being even on worker count.
Worker count is what makes your economy, not your expansion timing. I mean, this is the entire reason we tell people "just keep on making workers then maynard them when your expo finishes"
You need to keep making workers if you're defending an all-in, especially since most Protoss allins stop at 24-26 workers vs Terran.
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I wish you couldn't ff ramps. it sucks that he can do that attack, it doesn't work, and T can't ... do anything, P just expands and techs and is pretty safe.
Terran could not cut scvs the way Taeja did. It was 26 probes to 24. Thats pretty unforgivable when you go reaper expand.
I don't understand what you mean, but he also had to pull up his ramp and throw down 2 bunkers really fast. when was he down? also what difference does it make when he can't mine from his nat because he's stuck up his ramp?
Because then when he CAN mine from the nat, he has more scvs instead of being even on worker count.
Worker count is what makes your economy, not your expansion timing. I mean, this is the entire reason we tell people "just keep on making workers then maynard them when your expo finishes"
You need to keep making workers if you're defending an all-in, especially since most Protoss allins stop at 24-26 workers vs Terran.
I need to know a few things though, like when this was... he had a reason to cut, he was pumping out units and bunkers for a period of time. also might have lost some in the attack? although I'm not sure. I'm more curious as to when that count was taken, I missed it.
I do have some idea of how economy works in this game . I also know that if they're even mules put T ahead.
I also also know that none of this matters if P can safely tech and expand while the T can't come out of his main.
I wish you couldn't ff ramps. it sucks that he can do that attack, it doesn't work, and T can't ... do anything, P just expands and techs and is pretty safe.
Terran could not cut scvs the way Taeja did. It was 26 probes to 24. Thats pretty unforgivable when you go reaper expand.
I don't understand what you mean, but he also had to pull up his ramp and throw down 2 bunkers really fast. when was he down? also what difference does it make when he can't mine from his nat because he's stuck up his ramp?
Because then when he CAN mine from the nat, he has more scvs instead of being even on worker count.
Worker count is what makes your economy, not your expansion timing. I mean, this is the entire reason we tell people "just keep on making workers then maynard them when your expo finishes"
You need to keep making workers if you're defending an all-in, especially since most Protoss allins stop at 24-26 workers vs Terran.
I need to know a few things though, like when this was... he had a reason to cut, he was pumping out units and bunkers for a period of time. also might have lost some in the attack? although I'm not sure. I'm more curious as to when that count was taken, I missed it.
I do have some idea of how economy works in this game . I also know that if they're even mules put T ahead.
I also also know that none of this matters if P can safely tech and expand while the T can't come out of his main.
Immediately after squirtle first pushed up the ramp and then back down, it was 26 workers to 24, after Taeja's CC had been up for 2mins.
How can squirtle just toss a key unit like a colossus away in a tight even base-race game and still win?
fuck this game
did you watch taeja's crappy attack on squirtle's new base?
"it's like he thinks he's on a clock!'... he was, storm was coming. toss had a free base behind him. it went badly but I totally get why he went for it.
He just didn't realise how far off storm was, he could have done a similar push with loads more stuff later on and still have gotten there before storm.
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should he have just gone straight for the counter attack onto squirtle's base when he saw him moving towards his barracks?
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I'm not trying to say it's gamebreaking that he can do that or anything. I imagine it's how people feel when terran pulls scvs and uses mules. it makes up for a failure. it's how I feel when a zerg does JUST enough damage to drone heavily for a couple of rounds and completely catch up.
it's just frustrating and the game sucked for it. taeja does the right response in pulling up his ramp but ultimately gets fucked for it.
How can squirtle just toss a key unit like a colossus away in a tight even base-race game and still win?
fuck this game
did you watch taeja's crappy attack on squirtle's new base?
"it's like he thinks he's on a clock!'... he was, storm was coming. toss had a free base behind him. it went badly but I totally get why he went for it.
it wasn't the timing of the attack that was bad, it was how he executed it
How can squirtle just toss a key unit like a colossus away in a tight even base-race game and still win?
fuck this game
did you watch taeja's crappy attack on squirtle's new base?
"it's like he thinks he's on a clock!'... he was, storm was coming. toss had a free base behind him. it went badly but I totally get why he went for it.
it wasn't the timing of the attack that was bad, it was how he executed it
he wussed out and half-committed and it cost him
I'd have to watch again but I imagine the forcefields had something to do with that
He just didn't realise how far off storm was, he could have done a similar push with loads more stuff later on and still have gotten there before storm.
So assuming there will be some sort of meetup at PAX Prime, we should set a date or something, since all the 3 day passes are sold out already (in under 24 hours.) I'm only going to grab a single day pass probably now, instead of Sat and Sunday, so yeah SC2 Thread. When will you all be at PAX and/or wanna get ridiculously drunk afterwards?
Fuckkkkk
I already have my travel plans set so I guess I'm just going to eat the $40 for three singles
EDIT: Saturday is out too? I think they're selling these things too cheaply
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I wish you couldn't ff ramps. it sucks that he can do that attack, it doesn't work, and T can't ... do anything, P just expands and techs and is pretty safe.
Terran could not cut scvs the way Taeja did. It was 26 probes to 24. Thats pretty unforgivable when you go reaper expand.
I don't understand what you mean, but he also had to pull up his ramp and throw down 2 bunkers really fast. when was he down? also what difference does it make when he can't mine from his nat because he's stuck up his ramp?
Because then when he CAN mine from the nat, he has more scvs instead of being even on worker count.
Worker count is what makes your economy, not your expansion timing. I mean, this is the entire reason we tell people "just keep on making workers then maynard them when your expo finishes"
You need to keep making workers if you're defending an all-in, especially since most Protoss allins stop at 24-26 workers vs Terran.
I need to know a few things though, like when this was... he had a reason to cut, he was pumping out units and bunkers for a period of time. also might have lost some in the attack? although I'm not sure. I'm more curious as to when that count was taken, I missed it.
I do have some idea of how economy works in this game . I also know that if they're even mules put T ahead.
I also also know that none of this matters if P can safely tech and expand while the T can't come out of his main.
Immediately after squirtle first pushed up the ramp and then back down, it was 26 workers to 24, after Taeja's CC had been up for 2mins.
yeah so, right after he cut everything to get up 2 bunkers, pulled a load of scvs so was mining less, and focused everything on units? I have trouble faulting him for that. if it was still so close like a minute later then he fucked up.
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that was probably the most disappointing 2 days of gsl ever. not that it was anyone's fault obviously... the most disappointing for me before was MKP vs MVP in the finals, probably both times. but at least those were just one night.
this suuuuuuuuucked. matches went fairly as expected but I didn't expect such fast series and such ugly games. yuck!
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(edit - and I'm outta here, dhal I'll watch it again tomorrow, I completely get your point I just think he had reasons to not make scvs.he had to survive, that's first priority)
Well, Marty, you're on 3 base and he's on like 11 base. You also obviously have a deathball.
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Oh and yeah zerg buffs:
"We feel zerg is too weak vs all-ins early game."
Have they been watching this game for just a week or something? Good friggin' lord.
And not every map has a reachable third that lets zerg defend vs void-ray harass.
The overlord speed is fast, mega fast. It feels like they're as fast as speed ovies in BW.
I forgot to test if the lair speed upgrade made them even FASTER, or if the top speed capped at the previous top speed. Did anyone check?
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I think he was mad because he managed to amass a moderate corruptor/broodlord army as a last ditch defence and I squished it.
Watching the replay, whoops, his army was ahead by a good 1K minerals and had 2/2 upgrades for most of the midgame. And for some reason I decided to try a push? I think I was lucky that he counter-pushed before I could get far across the map, making me go home and collect a couple of colossus I'd built. I would have gotten smashed if I'd actually attacked his base...
Well, Marty, you're on 3 base and he's on like 11 base. You also obviously have a deathball.
=P
Oh and yeah zerg buffs:
"We feel zerg is too weak vs all-ins early game."
Have they been watching this game for just a week or something? Good friggin' lord.
And not every map has a reachable third that lets zerg defend vs void-ray harass.
The overlord speed is fast, mega fast. It feels like they're as fast as speed ovies in BW.
I forgot to test if the lair speed upgrade made them even FASTER, or if the top speed capped at the previous top speed. Did anyone check?
speed overlords still move at the same speed. Its just the slow ones that move faster now.
It must've been a good game, actually.
Toss rarely need to get to 4 base unless it's a real threat, which explains him having almost half the map.
Nah that 4th was more of a good habit "just in case", I'd pretty well won by that stage and it was only when I deathballed his third he sent all of his drones north to build the 4th, 5th and 6th hatcheries.
I also kept expanding because when his first attack clearly wasn't going to succeed he circled around and suicided his roaches to destroy my natural nexus, and I was paranoid something like that would happen again.
i'm happy the myth about there somehow being tons of money in esports that's just hidden finally seems to be dispelled
Where do people think the money comes from?
I don't understand.
Sponsors, advertisers, and tickets.
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I don't understand what you mean, but he also had to pull up his ramp and throw down 2 bunkers really fast. when was he down? also what difference does it make when he can't mine from his nat because he's stuck up his ramp?
But most likely it'll be parting vs squirtle.
did you watch taeja's crappy attack on squirtle's new base?
Because then when he CAN mine from the nat, he has more scvs instead of being even on worker count.
Worker count is what makes your economy, not your expansion timing. I mean, this is the entire reason we tell people "just keep on making workers then maynard them when your expo finishes"
You need to keep making workers if you're defending an all-in, especially since most Protoss allins stop at 24-26 workers vs Terran.
okay, fair enough, that was silly
I need to know a few things though, like when this was... he had a reason to cut, he was pumping out units and bunkers for a period of time. also might have lost some in the attack? although I'm not sure. I'm more curious as to when that count was taken, I missed it.
I do have some idea of how economy works in this game
I also also know that none of this matters if P can safely tech and expand while the T can't come out of his main.
Immediately after squirtle first pushed up the ramp and then back down, it was 26 workers to 24, after Taeja's CC had been up for 2mins.
"it's like he thinks he's on a clock!'... he was, storm was coming. toss had a free base behind him. it went badly but I totally get why he went for it.
it's just frustrating and the game sucked for it. taeja does the right response in pulling up his ramp but ultimately gets fucked for it.
it wasn't the timing of the attack that was bad, it was how he executed it
he wussed out and half-committed and it cost him
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unfortunate timing for blizzard there
definitely.
Two templars with two storms each were at squirtles base. Not that he wouldnt have potentially been able to overcome that but thats a solid defnese.
Fuckkkkk
I already have my travel plans set so I guess I'm just going to eat the $40 for three singles
EDIT: Saturday is out too? I think they're selling these things too cheaply
yeah so, right after he cut everything to get up 2 bunkers, pulled a load of scvs so was mining less, and focused everything on units? I have trouble faulting him for that. if it was still so close like a minute later then he fucked up.
this suuuuuuuuucked. matches went fairly as expected but I didn't expect such fast series and such ugly games. yuck!
(gogo Liquid, I'm cheering for Hero from here)
(edit - and I'm outta here, dhal I'll watch it again tomorrow, I completely get your point I just think he had reasons to not make scvs.he had to survive, that's first priority)
=P
Oh and yeah zerg buffs:
"We feel zerg is too weak vs all-ins early game."
Have they been watching this game for just a week or something? Good friggin' lord.
And not every map has a reachable third that lets zerg defend vs void-ray harass.
The overlord speed is fast, mega fast. It feels like they're as fast as speed ovies in BW.
I forgot to test if the lair speed upgrade made them even FASTER, or if the top speed capped at the previous top speed. Did anyone check?
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Watching the replay, whoops, his army was ahead by a good 1K minerals and had 2/2 upgrades for most of the midgame. And for some reason I decided to try a push? I think I was lucky that he counter-pushed before I could get far across the map, making me go home and collect a couple of colossus I'd built. I would have gotten smashed if I'd actually attacked his base...
It must've been a good game, actually.
Toss rarely need to get to 4 base unless it's a real threat, which explains him having almost half the map.
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speed overlords still move at the same speed. Its just the slow ones that move faster now.
Nah that 4th was more of a good habit "just in case", I'd pretty well won by that stage and it was only when I deathballed his third he sent all of his drones north to build the 4th, 5th and 6th hatcheries.
I also kept expanding because when his first attack clearly wasn't going to succeed he circled around and suicided his roaches to destroy my natural nexus, and I was paranoid something like that would happen again.
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