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Microsoft attacks Google over attitude on Copyrights

TalonrazorTalonrazor Registered User regular
edited March 2007 in Games and Technology
Didn't see this anywhere but this is a topic we need to talk about.

Microsoft will say in a speech tomorrow that Google is too cavalier on copyrights.
Article wrote:
Microsoft on Tuesday launches a fierce attack on Google over its “cavalier” approach to copyright, accusing the internet company of exploiting books, music, films and television programmes without permission.

Tom Rubin, associate general counsel for Microsoft, will say in a speech in New York that while authors and publishers find it hard to cover costs, “companies that create no content of their own, and make money solely on the back of other people’s content, are raking in billions through advertising and initial public offerings”.



So, comments? Does Microsoft have a real point? Is Google perhaps pioneering a new attitude on copyright issues (new for corporate world, anyways)? Google to buy Microsoft in three years?

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    Lucky CynicLucky Cynic Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Google to buy all copyrights in 3 years.

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Google to not give a shit in one day.

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    Ownage JonesOwnage Jones Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Mudslinging. I suppose they're a little worried about Live Search (especially since they redesigned Hotmail around some Gmail features) but the search engine that defeats Google hasn't been invented yet.

    /shrug.

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    UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Yeah, I wonder if they aren't worrying a bit about these Google-Everything features that have caught on relatively quickly...?

    I don't know enough about it, but it just seems that Google is wildly successful at nearly everything they do.

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    Lindsay LohanLindsay Lohan Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    So Microsoft is going to say "Our search engine is better because it gives you less results. Any results that Google gives you that ours doesn't is because they are giving you illegal links full of copyright breaking content. Get Legal Get Microsoft."

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    slurpeepoopslurpeepoop Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Maybe they're pissed that Google (and Sony recently) are horning in on their business model?


















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    Not really, but you know....

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Herby wrote: »
    So Microsoft is going to say "Our search engine is better because it gives you less results. Any results that Google gives you that ours doesn't is because they are giving you illegal links full of copyright breaking content. Get Legal Get Microsoft."

    Search Activation.

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    CarnivoreCarnivore Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I haven't read up enough on this subject to make a meaningful post here. It seems that without doing so I may be at risk of blurting out any random anto-Microsoft spiel because somehow Google is the 'search engine of the people' so I'll just leave it at that.

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    TalonrazorTalonrazor Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    The thing that makes me worry is the fact that Microsoft is a massive presence in computing, whether you like them or not. People hear Microsoft and pay attention. If Microsoft starts actively attempting to enhance our broken copyright system, stuff might happen.

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    RichardTauberRichardTauber Kvlt Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Wait, so I'm supposed to rhetorically defend Google against Microsoft? This reminds me of the old days of Sony vs Microsoft vs Nintendo. Or Satan vs Santa. Or was that Jesus?

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    ArugulaZArugulaZ Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Microsoft's just cranky because they haven't been able to f'ing kill Google like they promised back in 2003. For the first time in history, Microsoft has found a competitor that they couldn't buy out or bury, and it drives them absolutely mad.

    Having said that, they are right. The Internet is founded on copyright infringement. From ROM files on MAME sites to songs on Napster.com, people have been pirating copyrighted content online since the very beginning. What Microsoft fails to understand is that it's not Google's job to police online piracy, but rather to offer objective search functions, untainted by political concerns. And this is why MSN continues to fail where Google succeeds.

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    UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    ArugulaZ wrote: »
    For the first time in history, Microsoft has found a competitor that they couldn't buy out or bury, and it drives them absolutely mad.

    I thought that was Firefox or Linux or something.

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    ArugulaZArugulaZ Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Ah, but you forget that neither Firefox nor Linux are used by a majority of computer owners. Google is.

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    RichardTauberRichardTauber Kvlt Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    ArugulaZ wrote: »
    Microsoft's just cranky because they haven't been able to f'ing kill Google like they promised back in 2003. For the first time in history, Microsoft has found a competitor that they couldn't buy out or bury, and it drives them absolutely mad.

    Having said that, they are right. The Internet is founded on copyright infringement. From ROM files on MAME sites to songs on Napster.com, people have been pirating copyrighted content online since the very beginning. What Microsoft fails to understand is that it's not Google's job to police online piracy, but rather to offer objective search functions, untainted by political concerns. And this is why MSN continues to fail where Google succeeds.

    I do believe Microsoft is more concerned with youtube and Googles recent acquirement of which. Microsofts new Zune is aiming at becoming the leading device for both customer and provider of music. They want to be the middle ground. And youtube isn't quite concerned with copyright as of now. (or profit I've heard)

    Ninja-edit: And the whole search-engine-business. But this is no silly attempt at crushing Google. It's just preparations for the future as many of Microsofts seemingly illogical moves are.

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    Lucky CynicLucky Cynic Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Have you guys seen the new Windows Update?

    Apparently it's a windows update that verifies if your copy of Windows XP is legal. And if it is found out that yours isn't, the update will tell you how you can get a legal copy of Windows XP.

    :roll:

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    Lindsay LohanLindsay Lohan Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Yeah - I've seen that update. It actually stays in the right hand tray and occassionally has a balloon that appears to tell you that you don't have an authentic copy of Windows, offers ways to remedy that, and reminds you that it's best for your PC's security to have a legal copy of Windows.

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    JJJJ DailyStormer Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Have you guys seen the new Windows Update?

    Apparently it's a windows update that verifies if your copy of Windows XP is legal. And if it is found out that yours isn't, the update will tell you how you can get a legal copy of Windows XP.

    :roll:

    Really? It'd be cooler if it goes apeshit and erases shit off your hd.

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    OhtsamOhtsam Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    JJ wrote: »
    Have you guys seen the new Windows Update?

    Apparently it's a windows update that verifies if your copy of Windows XP is legal. And if it is found out that yours isn't, the update will tell you how you can get a legal copy of Windows XP.

    :roll:

    Really? It'd be cooler if it goes apeshit and erases shit off your hd.

    Then that shit would hit the fan and the people of the internet would be pissed just because its Microsoft.

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    Ownage JonesOwnage Jones Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Didn't SP 1 lock you out if you had an invalid copy?

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    MorskittarMorskittar Lord Warlock Engineer SeattleRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Why are people so often irrational about tech companies, especially Microsoft?

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    CarnivoreCarnivore Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Because this is the internet.

    Irrational is not only our middle name, its our first, last and favorite color too.

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    EinhanderEinhander __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2007
    Microsoft is unhappy about YouTube (in terms of copyright), not Google in general, right?

    Edit: Nevermind, they're also pissed about the books.

    What if Google paid a licensing fee for each book the same way I am assuming that libraries do, and then offered them up to search through online? That wold be awesome and I just realised that if that ever happened actual factual libraries would disappear and oh shit that would really suck.

    They do have a point with YouTube, though, since there doesn't seem to be any kind of screening procedure (honestly, there never could be, since the bulk of submissions would make it impossible) for submissions, meaning I could upload every episode of a TV show from last season and you could just watch them on YouTube instead of buying them on DVD.

    A far cry from the original intent, which is homemade content that you can share with the world, which would be impossible by any other means.

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